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Otis · Jan 27, 2022

Does anyone know why there is a huge leap in train prices in March and from March onwards? It's baffling the hell out of me and I can't find anything online

I am fully aware prices are due to go up 3.8%, but clearly they are seemingly going up by much more. Can't get my head around it. So, here's the price and what I normally, £12.05 return, London to Maidstone. This example is Friday 11th March.

The following week and from then on in, the price is £17.95 plus. That is NOT 3.8%. Coventry to London is a very similar hike. Gone up by over £6.

Anyone any ideas? I mean a 20% increase on £12.05 would only be £2.40. I know one of those says STP to Maidstone and the other London to Maidstone, but it makes no difference. I was just fiddling about to see at the time

Otis · Jan 27, 2022

The irony is, I am usually the expert on train prices too.

SAJ · Jan 27, 2022

Otis said:
The irony is, I am usually the expert on train prices too.

My understanding of the 3.8% rise is that is the average price rises across the board. Saying that I can’t see how they have come up with a 40%+ rise on a journey.

Otis · Jan 27, 2022

Crazy isn't it.

Kneeza · Jan 27, 2022

Our train fares in general are shocking - never mind any price hikes.

Skybluefaz · Jan 27, 2022

Rubbish, they want people to go back into the office and prices on transport are going up at these rates. Crazy.

fernandopartridge · Jan 27, 2022

Off peak ticket prices are completely unregulated so not subject to any capping. This country is completely unserious about the environment.

olderskyblue · Jan 27, 2022

Otis said:
The irony is, I am usually the expert on train prices too.

If you buy one of the expensive ones, you’ll still be saving money compared to your usual multi ticket buying….

hill83 · Jan 27, 2022

Try using TrainPal, pal.

Automatically finds split tickets. I use it every time I get a train.

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clint van damme · Jan 27, 2022

Otis said:
Does anyone know why there is a huge leap in train prices in March and from March onwards? It's baffling the hell out of me and I can't find anything online

I am fully aware prices are due to go up 3.8%, but clearly they are seemingly going up by much more. Can't get my head around it. So, here's the price and what I normally, £12.05 return, London to Maidstone. This example is Friday 11th March.

The following week and from then on in, the price is £17.95 plus. That is NOT 3.8%. Coventry to London is a very similar hike. Gone up by over £6.

Anyone any ideas? I mean a 20% increase on £12.05 would only be £2.40. I know one of those says STP to Maidstone and the other London to Maidstone, but it makes no difference. I was just fiddling about to see at the time

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Can't remember which network Otis but there's one of the Southern ones does a solo railcard that covers up to the Midlands, might be worth investigating

Otis · Jan 27, 2022

hill83 said:
Try using TrainPal, pal.

Automatically finds split tickets. I use it every time I get a train.

Book Cheap Train Tickets, Bus and Coach Tickets in the UK & Europe Online | Trainpal

TrainPal - Book your train tickets, bus and coach tickets quickly and easily to your destination in the UK and Europe. Wherever you want to go, you can rely on cheaper train tickets with no booking fees. Save up to 90% on UK Rail with split tickets. App Available. Search Train and coachTimes.

m.mytrainpal.com

Those screenshots ARE from Train Pal.

Otis · Jan 27, 2022

The prices vary so much, I have pretty much all the apps that cover my journey areas. I have the apps for Trainline, Train Pal, Avanti, West Midlands Trains, Southeastern, Cross Country and Chiltern.

The whole thing is a mess to be honest.

hill83 · Jan 27, 2022

Otis said:
Those screenshots ARE from Train Pal.

Ha ha fair enough

Liquid Gold · Jan 27, 2022

is trainpal better than raileasy?

jimmyhillsfanclub · Jan 27, 2022

Liquid Gold said:
is trainpal better than raileasy?

Dunno..... I always use chooseachoochoo...

fernandopartridge · Jan 27, 2022

They're all the same I think, I use trainsplit

robbiekeane · Jan 28, 2022

Kneeza said:
Our train fares in general are shocking - never mind any price hikes.

It’s a disgrace. How can the government pretend to be wanting less traffic congestion less c02 emissions and generally less cars on the road, when a return ticket from leamington to Marylebone costs £75 if you get it off peak (not super off peak) with a few days notice?

I would have done that commute twice a week if it was reasonably priced, it instead I drove down in a 2 litre Scirocco that drank fuel cause it was significantly cheaper

the train btw was one I booked second week of Jan and the carriage was literally empty we were the only ones in it.

duffer · Jan 28, 2022

Completely agree that it's a farce, Otis, though in truth I thought you would have bought your own train by now.

shmmeee · Jan 28, 2022

Fuckin TrainPal cos me £50+ after the tickets I bought were cancelled without my knowledge and I had to buy on the train or risk a fine. Never again. Got my original money back but still a load of stress and £50 and down £150 for two days waiting for the refund.

Kneeza · Jan 28, 2022

Being someone who studiously avoids train travel where possible on cost grounds, I'm completely out of the loop.
However, I need to go to the Smoke for a couple of days, midweek, at some point soon (prob mid Feb), travelling from Hinckley or Nuneaton. It's for a bit of 'admin' but me and her want to have an evening in town, or maybe even two if we can sort a hotel that doesn't actually bankrupt me.
So, experts...
What's it likely to cost two adults, roughly?
What's the earliest in the day to embark so as to get seats? And likewise the best time to return?
I don't yet use any apps, so what's recommended for this particular route?
Ta.

Otis · Jan 28, 2022

So you have no railcards at all? Off peak trains are usually after around 09.45.

I just looked and it's a big

Say for instance you went Wednesday 16th Feb and came back the next day ...

Otis · Jan 28, 2022

Nuneaton is a little cheaper, but still ...

Otis · Jan 28, 2022

I have a Railcard, so that gets me around a third off, but I find prices vary wildly. It's all over the place.

Kneeza · Jan 28, 2022

Ouch. What a friggin' rip off.
No, I don't have a railcard (I assume I'd need to pay up front for that) as I haven't travelled by train for about 15 years.
Thanks anyway.

Houchens Head · Jan 28, 2022

Here's another to try. Probably the same as the rest..... Split My Fare | Split Ticket Search | Save 90% on Rail Fares

Otis · Jan 29, 2022

Kneeza said:
Ouch. What a friggin' rip off.
No, I don't have a railcard (I assume I'd need to pay up front for that) as I haven't travelled by train for about 15 years.
Thanks anyway.

Yeah, a rail card is £30 a year, but you can usually get 10% discount and get them for £27.

Otis · Jan 29, 2022

Houchens Head said:
Here's another to try. Probably the same as the rest..... Split My Fare | Split Ticket Search | Save 90% on Rail Fares

Cheers, Houch. Will look at that too

Deleted member 5849 · Jan 29, 2022

Kneeza said:
Ouch. What a friggin' rip off.
No, I don't have a railcard (I assume I'd need to pay up front for that) as I haven't travelled by train for about 15 years.
Thanks anyway.

A two-together railcard might pay for itself and more for that one journey.

Kneeza · Jan 29, 2022

OK, will look into that. Thanks.

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