Would imagine the uncertainity of that is a harder sell to foreign imports though. If you think you are on to a gem with sell on potential and offer 2 with an option but they come back asking for a straight 3 years, it become s a tricky scenario.Sure, I just preferred it when we offered two year deals with options in our favour
We need some wrestling style theatre. KASTa in a big cage on the sideline and someone bringing Robins the key in the 88th minute
Sure, I just preferred it when we offered two year deals with options in our favour
Can't have it both ways though.
If you offer longer term deals you run the risk of being stuck with someone who is no good (but still able to sell for a fee).
Offer shorter deals and run the risk of losing a good player for nothing when the contract is up.
There's a balance to be had and it's difficult to get right, but I much prefer these longer deals than shorter deals.
been trying to press play on this for about 5 minutes, cheersMaybe Robins is missing a trick and putting the player's biggest weakness on the front of their shirt is the kick up the arse that they need to progress.
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I think offering with an option is the best compromise. It is what it is, we’re stuck having spent 9 figures on Kasta
Perhaps he had a good agent and they set a deadline.Which begs the question why we give players like that 3 year deals when we don’t know much about their character
But they have the right to refuse. Difference between 3 year and 2+1 could be enough between them signing at all or not, esp for overseas players who will have a lot of upheaval and feel its gives them time to settle in and that the club has confidence on you. Might even be a case they'd accept slightly less per week for 3yrs than for 2+1 due to more uncertainty and that gives you more budget flexibility short term.
Now maybe you'd say if that's what they want we won't sign them but if you're willing to offer them a 2+1 it's hardly likely you're that unsure about them.
In that case the development of players who improved when we signed them, such as Kelly, Hyam, McCallum, Dabo, Rose, McNulty, Marosi and quite a few others is also down to man-managementDidn’t Kasta play for the Dutch under 21’s etc ? Down to man management of the player ?
Maybe we need a different shirt sponsor to motivate him.There is a precedent
You watch that, and the lad has raw talent, but he just doesn't have the heart or desire to use it.
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I get the pros and cons, but we’re sat here with wasted money on Kasta for an extra 12 months.
I think offering with an option is the best compromise. It is what it is, we’re stuck having spent 9 figures on Kasta
But IF he'd been successful that'd be a good thing.
Take Hamer. We gave him a three year contract. Was that a mistake too? Imagine we'd offered him 2+1 and he'd rejected it and gone somewhere else on a three year contract. We'd be sitting here saying why didn't the club just add the extra year in to secure his signature.
You win some, you lose some.
I'm a bit more mystified as to taking up the option on Baka given MR had had 2 years working with him to see he doesn't use his clear physical abilities to any kind of effect and doesn't appear to have any sort of footballing brain.
Maybe we did but with the limited amount we could offer in wages a 3 year deal was the least he (or his agent) would accept? No idea, and it would make more sense to offer 2+1 deals sometimes, so you have to think there’s a reason they don’t / can’t.Sure, I just preferred it when we offered two year deals with options in our favour
True, although I guess you could always offer the promising ones a new contract. Are 2+2 deals a thing?3 years with an option is what you want to maximise a players value after a couple of seasons. 2+1 essentially means you'd have to sell after a season to get best value. Always a balancing act, risk Vs reward. At 2 years, even with an option, means you're turning the majority of the team over every year (or max 2). Doesn't give a lot of stability at this level. Will also struggle to attract players at this level on short contracts.
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