ccfc92
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End of this season I think?
How long a deal is Mowbray on?
Bring in somebody that knows the lower leagues, knows the players that are out there and the technicalities they have.Who do we bring in though?
I don't think there's anyone out there much better than Mowbray and I can't see SISU stumping up a severance payment to TM and a compensation fee for an already employed manager.
Lets stick with him, I'm fed up of changing managers every 18 months and going round in circles.
How long a deal is Mowbray on?
Expires end of the season I think.
Question is, what has gone so badly wrong since December 2015?
How can you get a team playing so well, and winning games before a ball is kicked, to unable to win at all?
They did appoint Mowbray and Mowbray accepted only if they provided the resources available for the job in hand.They appointed Mowbray, so the best you can say of them is they have judgement not in keeping with their aim of maximising the order seen elsewhere in the club, to attain on-pitch success.
So they are at fault, yes.
He dropped very lucky up to then.
He gets an easy ride because people are too angry shouting at SISU they don't notice the fact he hasn't got a clue either. Might be why they have kept him hear as it's a common trait.
I did try pointing out that the reason he joined a league one club was because he's failed at higher levels and he was a league one standard manager when he arrived. It wasn't the ones who are angry shouting SISU out who jumped on me, it was the ones hailing his arrival as a SISU master plan.
There's a pattern formed since SISU arrived. Some short term success followed by abject failure. We're seeing it again, when will people wake up and realise that our owners have failed to create an environment where long term success is possible. We're a record with a scratch. We get so far and then jump back to where we started never to get to the happy ending. That's the cycle we're stuck in. There's only one way that's going to change.
And what did Coleman do at club level, without Bale?
League 1 survival?
Bring in somebody that knows the lower leagues, knows the players that are out there and the technicalities they have.
Mark Robins did OK before he left. Also would take Kenny Jackett.
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Oh right, another plaster to cover the gaping, fatal wound. Let's entice some promising young manager to the club, see how long it takes for the club to fucking ruin him too.
There's a pattern formed since SISU arrived. Some short term success followed by abject failure. We're seeing it again, when will people wake up and realise that our owners have failed to create an environment where long term success is possible. We're a record with a scratch. We get so far and then jump back to where we started never to get to the happy ending. That's the cycle we're stuck in. There's only one way that's going to change.
There will be changes made to the team
Personally, I say give him until Xmas, then if we are still around relegation zone, bring in a manager who can use the January window.
Personally I'd give him to the end of October. That way any new manager gets to make some mark on the current squad, learn what he needs to know about them so we can go into the transfer window with some sort of a plan for strengthening based on something thought out.
Preferably though TM works out how to turn this around.
Not just before SISU arrived of course, and I'm not saying that to diminish your point, more to add to it.
At the end of the day, our owners are either incapable of picking an appropriate manager for the club (in which case, as the ones who make the decision, they should be held responsible for this incompetence, and not entrusted with picking yet another poor choice) or the working conditions at the club mean a manager succeeds despite of the club he's at, not because of it.
If Mowbray was the first manager we've had who's struggled then it'd be reasonable to question him. Hell, it's *still* reasonable to question him - he is, and never has been, a messiah. But... the trend is it doesn't matter who we appoint... they struggle.
Yawn. Heard it all before.
It won't be long until we are told that Mowbray has been given the lowest budget in the league.
Personally I'd give him to the end of October. That way any new manager gets to make some mark on the current squad, learn what he needs to know about them so we can go into the transfer window with some sort of a plan for strengthening based on something thought out.
Preferably though TM works out how to turn this around.
They did appoint Mowbray and Mowbray accepted only if they provided the resources available for the job in hand.
That to me tells me that we bend over backwards to accommodate him at the club.
At the time I thought it was a good appointment personally. However it seems to me that he's lost it and it's not getting any better.
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That of course with Waggot running the show. Can the same still be said since Anderson turned up? His arrival does coincide with our decline. Just saying.
tbf it's the one reason I'd suggest getting rid of Mowbray could work. He isn't Anderson's choice, so maybe Anderson deserves the chance to prove he can pick better.
manager as an escape goat sounds like a kid in a sweaty shop
Could be interesting, I think with Anderson's background we'd look at the foreign manager market and it would be a decision based off statistical analysis and number crunching.tbf it's the one reason I'd suggest getting rid of Mowbray could work. He isn't Anderson's choice, so maybe Anderson deserves the chance to prove he can pick better.
Have you gone mad?!?
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