To those who want Robins gone now (1 Viewer)

chiefdave · Sep 28, 2024

Lee77 said:
Looks like he's lost the dressing room to me. No fight there at all.

Not sure I buy this. I know the players when interviewed aren't going to say it's shit being here but you talk about players who have come to play under Robins. its not like he's taken over and the players have decided they don't like the new bloke.

Add in that whenever any of our players, including the new signings, speak they go above and beyond in praise for how welcome they feel, how easy it is to settle in, how the staff go out of their way, how welcoming the players are etc it just doesn't give any hint of 'lost the dressing room' whatever that means.

Something is obviously wrong but I don't think as a group of players who looked at the success Robins has had, both with the team and developing players, and could see the style of play we use have decided this season to collectively go fuck that guy, lets force him out.

chiefdave · Sep 28, 2024

Matt smith said:
you telling me there’s not a manager out there, maybe in Europe that couldn’t get more out of these players

The people who will be recruiting our next manager are the same people who we keep being told have been absolutely clueless when it comes to identifying potential players and coaching staff.

Matt smith · Sep 28, 2024

chiefdave said:
The people who will be recruiting our next manager are the same people who we keep being told have been absolutely clueless when it comes to identifying potential players and coaching staff.

Yeah, that is a completely fair point, and concerning one at that

wingy · Sep 28, 2024

Oh dear interview!

Martw · Sep 28, 2024

AFCCOVENTRY said:
2 home games next week and if we don’t win those I think King will sack him unless Robins resigns.

I think he would walk before being sacked if that happened

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Sep 28, 2024

Martw said:
I think he would walk before being sacked if that happened

He'll know when it's time to walk away for sure. He's been here for a long time now and I'm sure if he feels he's reached a brick wall he'll step away. That said , he's had to overcome massive setbacks before and has come through.

Briles · Sep 28, 2024

Liquid Gold said:
Whoever made the decision to start Wilson instead of our quality young expensive keeper should fuck off now

Smacks of trying everything in desperation doesn't it

Winny the Bish · Sep 28, 2024

Briles said:
Smacks of trying everything in desperation doesn't it

Trying everything except changing the formation.

fernandopartridge · Sep 28, 2024

Would anybody have faith in the Head of Performance recruiting a new manager?

AFCCOVENTRY · Sep 28, 2024

All very well Robins saying the players lack confidence when he is chopping and changing this team like a watermelon. Imagine against Swansea he kept the same team as against Spurs but dropped Wilson. Wilson must have thought fuck this as the outfield stayed the same. Then today he drops Dovin and fuck this Wilson is back in! Now Dovin is thinking what the fuck!

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Sep 28, 2024

fernandopartridge said:
Would anybody have faith in the Head of Performance recruiting a new manager?

Think you’ve got the head of performance’s role misunderstood here

CovValleyBoy · Sep 28, 2024

Sick Boy said:
I spoke to him a couple of times and on a personal level I thought he came across well and he always had time for the fans.

fernandopartridge said:
Would anybody have faith in the Head of Performance recruiting a new manager?

Martw said:
I think he would walk before being sacked if that happened

Its reasonable to say this is the biggest crisis since Mark arrived 8 years ago ?

robbiethemole · Sep 28, 2024

chiefdave said:
Not sure I buy this. I know the players when interviewed aren't going to say it's shit being here but you talk about players who have come to play under Robins. its not like he's taken over and the players have decided they don't like the new bloke.

Add in that whenever any of our players, including the new signings, speak they go above and beyond in praise for how welcome they feel, how easy it is to settle in, how the staff go out of their way, how welcoming the players are etc it just doesn't give any hint of 'lost the dressing room' whatever that means.

Something is obviously wrong but I don't think as a group of players who looked at the success Robins has had, both with the team and developing players, and could see the style of play we use have decided this season to collectively go fuck that guy, lets force him out.

fernandopartridge said:
Would anybody have faith in the Head of Performance recruiting a new manager?

Surely the performance directed has to carry the blame for shit performances like this?

Sick Boy · Sep 28, 2024

robbiethemole said:
Surely the performance directed has to carry the blame for shit performances like this?

Yeah, it's all down to her ffs.

SeaSeeEffCee · Sep 28, 2024

Just feeling very depressed about it all tbh. Don’t think he has long left and it’s just very sad that it’s come to this.

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Sep 28, 2024

The performance director is responsible for the long term strategy in developing our players.

it’s her job to look into what our players need to succeed and develop.

robbiethemole · Sep 28, 2024

Sick Boy said:
Yeah, it's all down to her ffs.

Does being sarcastic really make up for being a dick?

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The performance director is responsible for the long term strategy in developing our players.

it’s her job to look into what our players need to succeed and develop.

Maybe we need to bring one in to sort out the short term

HuckerbyDublinWhelan · Sep 28, 2024

clint van damme said:
Maybe we need to bring one in to sort out the short term

We’ve currently got one it’s the manager…

Sick Boy · Sep 28, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The performance director is responsible for the long term strategy in developing our players.

it’s her job to look into what our players need to succeed and develop.

Clearly there's a misunderstanding amongst some about what her job is.

CovValleyBoy · Sep 28, 2024

Sick Boy said:
Clearly there's a misunderstanding amongst some about what her job is.

Enlighten us ?

Sick Boy · Sep 28, 2024

CovValleyBoy said:
Enlighten us ?

There's plenty of stuff online that you can have a read of. She's not responsible for what the team that's picked, tactics, coaching, lack of team spirit etc.

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
We’ve currently got one it’s the manager…

Is it?
Or has he been undermined?
Not saying he has, just wondering if there is a connection between the set up changes and the poor start

lewys33 · Sep 28, 2024

“He’ll walk before he is pushed” Jesus some people have no idea how contracts work do they

whether people like it or not Doug has invested a lot, especially in the players. If it’s not working the obvious change is the manager.

it was MR & AV that got us from league 2 to a penalty shootout away from the prem. AV is gone. MR will be gone if we do not win 1 of the next 2.

I’ve felt during his entire tenure that he has weakness around tactics and specifically plan B. It’s extremely evident now.

12 points from 48 since the wolves game. Relegation fodder if he remains in charge and he continues with this passive style of play.

lewys33 · Sep 28, 2024

I’m not letting Doug off the hook btw … his model is very clearly also flawed and is rightly being questioned but the buck stops with him and he will continue to try that model with someone else I believe.

Sick Boy · Sep 28, 2024

lewys33 said:
I’m not letting Doug off the hook btw … his model is very clearly also flawed and is rightly being questioned but the buck stops with him and he will continue to try that model with someone else I believe.

There really should be someone running the club in those areas who actually understands and has experience in the game.

Monty · Sep 28, 2024

I think we all respect what Robins has done. Everyone wants him to succeed. The ultimate question is how long can the poor performances and lack of points go on? Give him 2 games? Give him until Christmas? Give him the season? At what point is enough enough? At the moment it isn't fun watching the performances on the pitch. What has changed? Are the players up in arms over Adi? Is there a coach they don't like? Something or someone is affecting them, it needs to change and fast

fernandopartridge · Sep 28, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Think you’ve got the head of performance’s role misunderstood here

What is it then?

fernandopartridge · Sep 28, 2024

HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
The performance director is responsible for the long term strategy in developing our players.

it’s her job to look into what our players need to succeed and develop.

Most of them are currently going backwards

lewys33 · Sep 28, 2024

I hear things 4th/5th hand so take it with a pinch is salt …

new players didn’t like adi and that style of old school coaching. now adding my opinion to that …

the players have got what they wanted and have now had a bit of a power/ego trip. I don’t think Robins is the big problem here (despite my dislike of the tactics, passive style of play and no plan B).

Ultimately when you’ve paid what we have for the players you’ll bring anyone in who may pamper to their needs more and if that means a new manager then I think that is what Doug will do.

clint van damme · Sep 28, 2024

lewys33 said:
I hear things 4th/5th hand so take it with a pinch is salt …

new players didn’t like adi and that style of old school coaching. now adding my opinion to that …

the players have got what they wanted and have now had a bit of a power/ego trip. I don’t think Robins is the big problem here (despite my dislike of the passive style of play).

Ultimately when you’ve paid what we have for the players you’ll bring anyone in who may pamper to their needs more and if that means a new manager then I think that is what Doug will do.

If that was the case, and I'm not sure it is, (better days alluded to a break down in the relationship between Robins and Viveash), but if it was the case then it should have been the players out the door, not Viveash

nicksar · Sep 28, 2024

People often get promoted above their level of competence, maybe the growth of the club is beyond Robins comfort zone now?...I was a bit concerned reading an interview by Robins re the new coaching setup that John Dempster is now the forward coach (and tbh thought wtf).... it's a huge jump from a cat B academy under 21 coach to a championship first team coach.

wingy · Sep 28, 2024

Their values are slipping by the match it will end up with a fire sale the way it's going!

lewys33 · Sep 28, 2024

clint van damme said:
If that was the case, and I'm not sure it is, (better days alluded to a break down in the relationship between Robins and Viveash), but if it was the case then it should have been the players out the door, not Viveash

I completely agree with the sentiment although what should, and what necessarily happens are completely different. Especially when we are ultimately talking about a business writing off their investments.

pusbccfc · Sep 28, 2024

SeaSeeEffCee said:
Just feeling very depressed about it all tbh. Don’t think he has long left and it’s just very sad that it’s come to this.

Same. It's very sad. I'm desperate for him to do well.

Even if we lose the next two, sacking Robins will be more divisive thananything Doug has ever done.

If you think the fan base has been divided before, you've not seen anything yet. It will turn the club, the fanbase and the city upside down.

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