Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Hes got to do it on his own terms. Pick HIS team, HIS players he knows he can't trust and are with him and make sure the message/plans are crystal clear and see where we are in next 4/5 games. If that means tossing off certain players also, then so be it - his job is on the line I suspect now and deserves better than falling on his sword because some players downed tools.
At least then he knows he's done it on his terms rather than mixed messages.
And here was me thoroughly enjoying our recent league campaignshadn’t realised we were just doing the same old thing with the same manager over & over & over & over again.
I admire your pluck!I still think autos are up for grabs
You won't remember this BSF but it wasn't that long ago that I used to reminisce about the time Micky Adams dragged a team containing Dele Adebola and Stuart Giddings to 8th place in the championship - the only time I recalled a top flight finish in my life time. I am old.And here was me thoroughly enjoying our recent league campaignshadn’t realised we were just doing the same old thing with the same manager over & over & over & over again.
Apologies but this is guff of the highest order. By “doing the same thing over and over” I assume you mean establishing a foothold in one of the most competitive leagues around, massively over achieving to nearly get out of it and generally improving so that we are recognised as being a very good team in the division.The last couple of years we have been doing a similar thing over and over, and tbh I’m talking more from a point of view in the future looking back to now.
I’m still willing to give Robins the rest of this season but if we’re not finishing near the play-offs then I don’t see why we should keep going and going with the same manager if it’s not working, particularly with the money that’s been spent. This is not a Robins-Out post, I’m just saying practically that if we tried the same manager and tactics for 5 more years when we knew it wasn’t working 5 years ago it’d seem like we’ve just wasted 5 years of time, money and momentum. Basically, when do we call it a day with Robins? I’m not saying “now”, but at what point do we switch managers?
Hold on there 12% want him gone and you want a debate.
I would say with an overwhelming majority of 88% wanting him to stay,the debate is over.
This thread should never have started 6 games into the season.
And anyway,last time I looked it was 89.6%
Apologies but this is guff of the highest order. By “doing the same thing over and over” I assume you mean establishing a foothold in one of the most competitive leagues around, massively over achieving to nearly get out of it and generally improving so that we are recognised as being a very good team in the division.
You're a time traveller?!?The last couple of years we have been doing a similar thing over and over, and tbh I’m talking more from a point of view in the future looking back to now.
I’m still willing to give Robins the rest of this season but if we’re not finishing near the play-offs then I don’t see why we should keep going and going with the same manager if it’s not working, particularly with the money that’s been spent. This is not a Robins-Out post, I’m just saying practically that if we tried the same manager and tactics for 5 more years when we knew it wasn’t working 5 years ago it’d seem like we’ve just wasted 5 years of time, money and momentum. Basically, when do we call it a day with Robins? I’m not saying “now”, but at what point do we switch managers?
You're a time traveller?!?
Only Millwall (14) have missed more ‘big chances’ than us (13) and we’ve only converted 2. As soon as this picks up we’re going to be ok.
I've been hoping that for a few years but it doesn't seem to happen.Assume this is something MR recognises and you would hope they are spending time coaching better finishing.
It’s not about a minority of idiots shouting loudly against the majority,in a childish attempt to start a debate about getting rid of the manager.You do understand what an online forum is all about, don't you?
I find this post baffling.The last couple of years we have been doing a similar thing over and over, and tbh I’m talking more from a point of view in the future looking back to now.
I’m still willing to give Robins the rest of this season but if we’re not finishing near the play-offs then I don’t see why we should keep going and going with the same manager if it’s not working, particularly with the money that’s been spent. This is not a Robins-Out post, I’m just saying practically that if we tried the same manager and tactics for 5 more years when we knew it wasn’t working 5 years ago it’d seem like we’ve just wasted 5 years of time, money and momentum. Basically, when do we call it a day with Robins? I’m not saying “now”, but at what point do we switch managers?
It’s not about a minority of idiots shouting loudly against the majority,in a childish attempt to start a debate about getting rid of the manager.
You have had your survey, and seen the result.
Now shut up about it until you can see you have any support to even post it on the forum.
Debate is over. Forum discussion should be over.
Yeah he will go eventually and I will be a bit sad. He has given me and most of us some of the most exciting memories of supporting our club. Unfortunately nothing lasts forever so lets get behind him and the team and make some more brilliant memories before he eventually leavesAll debating aside, I genuinely think I will be inconsolable when MR does leave our club.
He has made a city love its football club again.
I know it will come eventually, just hopefully not soon.
89.6% : let's be generous and say the wider fan base support is 80%. After 8 years that is some support of our Manager. Long may he Reign.Yeah he will go eventually and I will be a bit sad. He has given me and most of us some of the most exciting memories of supporting our club. Unfortunately nothing lasts forever so lets get behind him and the team and make some more brilliant memories before he eventually leaves
Measured response to an off-target rant.1. Wasn't my survey
2. I voted for MR to stay.
3. Not sure you calling everyone who has a different opinion on the issue "idiots" really helps much.
4. How would anyone know that they have any "support to post it on the forum" without, err, talking about it on the forum?
5. My advice would be for you to shut up and don't engage in threads that you don't like? Like an adult would.
6. Think you should make yourself a nice camomile tea with a bit of honey, log off for a while and watch family fortunes. Come back once you've fully understood the definition of "forum".
It's 90.3% now. So I think your generosity should go no lower than 90% now. I'd give him two more seasons whatever happens this year.89.6% : let's be generous and say the wider fan base support is 80%. After 8 years that is some support of our Manager. Long may he Reign.
I find this post baffling.
Robins record is insane, at what point did it start not working?
I firmly believe that last season we ultimately had the choice of a FA Cup run or saving the momentum for the playoffs. For whatever reason we went the FA cup route. Without that, i firmly believe we make the play offs, i dont believe we go up, but definitely make top 6.
The year before that we made the play off final and were a penalty away.
We are 6 games in this season, and in neither of the 2 previous seasons mentioned were we in any considerably better position than now at this point. We will finish near the play offs, i believe we'll finish in the play offs to be honest. The games come thick and fast in this league and teams drift away, as i said earlier in this thread, Preston were top of the league at this point last year, once they fell out the top 6 they never came back.
We're not entitled to the play offs just because we said thats what we want to do. Almost every single established or prem relegated club in this league is spending the same, if not more than us. We've not spent the money to dominate, just compete, and give the rest of the season we'll all see we have done that.
Brentford got promoted to the championship in 2014, had 3 seasons finishing in the play offs, going up in 2021. Nothing happens over night, they and Brighton, both spent (and received in) more than we have currently and built foundations that have meant they both have realistically not looked like being relegated from the prem since going up, Brighton have been in Europe! Every club in the championship is trying to replicate that success, the metric they all forget about is the time it takes.
I’m on about the last season and the current season, and as I mentioned in my previous post I’m also referring to the current period of time looking back from a future point of view (if that makes sense?).
I’m not Robins-Out but at what point should we be? We could continue trying exactly the same tactics year after year but in the last 6 months I’m not convinced that we’ve seen a quality play style or way of managing games. I like Robins but you’ve got to admit the results since March time have been relegation form and currently Robins is not providing any answers as to how we’re going to win games. I believe he should have the rest of the season and if we’re still not in the top 10 by the end of the season then I think he should go. At what point do you think he should be sacked?
(And just for reference I believe we’ll pick up our performances and be fine by the end of the season, this is all just hypothetical in case our results don’t improve.)
In that case you must think Tim Fisher deserves plaudits for managing to persuade the club’s greatest ever manager to return.I have supported the Sky Blues for over 60 years and we have had a lot - and I mean a lot - of managers in that time.
If asked to choose who has been our best manager in that time I would say it’s a toss-up between Mark Robins and Jimmy Hill.
I would actually give the award to MR because (a) he has performed well for a longer period and (b) he has done it with virtually zero resources (until we sold Gykores and Hamer last year) and under dreadful owners until King came in.
He deserves our backing and I hope he continues to be our manager for years to come. Managers don’t always have a sell-by date : look at Alex Ferguson as an example.
I’d think if anything the percentage supporting him ‘IRL’ is higher than on here.It's 90.3% now. So I think your generosity should go no lower than 90% now. I'd give him two more seasons whatever happens this year.
In that case you must think Tim Fisher deserves plaudits for managing to persuade the club’s greatest ever manager to return.
I spoke to him a couple of times and on a personal level I thought he came across well and he always had time for the fans.He does.
I don’t give him credit for much else but I’m glad he did that.
This makes no sense whatsoever. It’s just backwards and forwards waffle. State a position and stick to it.
I spoke to him a couple of times and on a personal level I thought he came across well and he always had time for the fans.
Last season the nucleus of this team beat Wolves, didn't lose to Man United in 120 minutes+ of playing time, and should have won. This season were leading Spurs with a few minutes to go, so the team is good enough against established premier league teams. By contrast we lost to Stoke and Swansea as well as a very average Norwich. So I think we are entitled to have a debate as to what's going on.Numerous threads discussing Robins’ future. It’s ridiculous that it’s even a debate.
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