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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #36
Nick said:
Football fan in supporting their team shocker! Best call the guardian.

You be angry and outraged all the time, good luck with that!
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You sit back and be a happy clapper all the time, when the club is playing non league in Nuneaton, good luck with that
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #37
skybluetony176 said:
You sit back and be a happy clapper all the time, when the club is playing non league in Nuneaton, good luck with that
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I've never happy clapped anything? Ask the people who happy clapped sisu, the people happy clapping Joe Elliott who got them in here. I've only ever clapped or cheered the players and football.

Is supporting your team going to become a hateable offense now then? Nice one.

I thought we were playing nuneaton as an away fixture this season, or are being liquidated?

How long until People get stick for going to home games???? It's certainly brewing
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #38
skybluetony176 said:
You sit back and be a happy clapper all the time, when the club is playing non league in Nuneaton, good luck with that
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We are more likely to get promoted than relegated this season. That doesnt fit with your narrative though does it? Assume all the NOPM will still stay away if we get into the top 6?
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #39
AndreasB said:
We are more likely to get promoted than relegated this season. That doesnt fit with your narrative though does it? Assume all the NOPM will still stay away if we get into the top 6?
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AndreasB the onus is on the club / SISU to engage and give the supporters something to rally around. Yes if they get into the top 6 (like the Gills game) then people will return and NOPM will be consigned to the past. At that point demonstrable progress will have been made.

If SISU deliver a successful team then people will return. Success on the field is the only way and the essential first step.

If you look at the statements from the club SISU have declared a NOPM campaign of their own
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #40
albatross said:
AndreasB the onus is on the club / SISU to engage and give the supporters something to rally around. Yes if they get into the top 6 (like the Gills game) then people will return and NOPM will be consigned to the past. At that point demonstrable progress will have been made.

If SISU deliver a successful team then people will return. Success on the field is the only way and the essential first step.

If you look at the statements from the club SISU have declared a NOPM campaign of their own
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The team are actually trying to do that but unbelievebly you are saying we need to be in the top 6 before people will support them. Wow.
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #41
AndreasB said:
The team are actually trying to do that but unbelievebly you are saying we need to be in the top 6 before people will support them. Wow.
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No. I simply said that if the club give the supporters something to follow they will return (as per Gills, Crewe) they are the biggest crowd draw in the area.

Revenue streams and any new stadium will not achieve that.

Very selective in your interpretation
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #42
albatross said:
No. I simply said that if the club give the supporters something to follow they will return (as per Gills, Crewe) they are the biggest crowd draw in the area.

Revenue streams and any new stadium will not achieve that.

Very selective in your interpretation
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I interprate what I see - 27k for Gillingham who wouldnt support a winning team the week after the club had given them something very real "to rally round".
Also , the mouth breathing bellends on here who fill up threads calling for the manager to be sacked EVERY time we lose a game have no right to lecture anyone about anything.
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #43
i have never called for the managers head. That is papering over the cracks and at present will solve nothing.

One game is not a success but does demonstrate the affection and possibilities for the club. After that its business as usual

Irrespective of off the field events success on the field will bring back support. Nothing else. At the moment success would look like top 6 in the third tier. if they are there going into April there will be well over 20K every home game
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #44
albatross said:
i have never called for the managers head. That is papering over the cracks and at present will solve nothing.

One game is not a success but does demonstrate the affection and possibilities for the club. After that its business as usual

Irrespective of off the field events success on the field will bring back support. Nothing else. At the moment success would look like top 6 in the third tier. if they are there going into April there will be well over 20K every home game
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So the problem isnt SISU then?
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #45
I believe the problem is SISU and have consistently posted that I hold them 100% responsible for the current situation.

I believe they have a different agenda at the moment especially considering Plan A failed, but lets not kid ourselves, that if they delivered success on the pitch then there would not be many dissenting voices on the forum.

Take the Glaziers and Man U as an example. Very unpopular owners, supporters spawned a whole new team, scarf protests at games etc... But did people stop going? no they did not as they delivered in the field (Moyes season aside).
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #46
albatross said:
I believe the problem is SISU and have consistently posted that I hold them 100% responsible for the current situation.

I believe they have a different agenda at the moment especially considering Plan A failed, but lets not kid ourselves, that if they delivered success on the pitch then there would not be many dissenting voices on the forum.

Take the Glaziers and Man U as an example. Very unpopular owners, supporters spawned a whole new team, scarf protests at games etc... But did people stop going? no they did not as they delivered in the field (Moyes season aside).
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people would go if we had a few wins..then fuck off again if we lost a couple, the Coventry Way.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #47
AndreasB said:
people would go if we had a few wins..then fuck off again if we lost a couple, the Coventry Way.
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That's business I'm afraid.
Sisu have taken the piss with all fans over the past few years and only continued success on the pitch will bring back fans.
Coventry fans are fickle, but that won't ever change so Sisu need to build that into their plans.
....... If they want too ?
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #48
italiahorse said:
That's business I'm afraid.
Sisu have taken the piss with all fans over the past few years and only continued success on the pitch will bring back fans.
Coventry fans are fickle, but that won't ever change so Sisu need to build that into their plans.
....... If they want too ?
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as your mates at wasps will find out
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #49
AndreasB said:
people would go if we had a few wins..then fuck off again if we lost a couple, the Coventry Way.
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I agree, but a couple of wins is not success.

Coventry Fans are no worse than any others.

But Success at this point is fairly modest a top six finish in the third tier. Not FA cup 2nd round exit against non league and 17th in the third Tier.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #50
What happened to those days where people supported their Team (not owners, not cheering directors or councillors, their TEAM) through thick and thin?

You know "city till I die" not "city till we get a few wins or it's a fiver".

I would love success just as much as the next person, I'd love to be in the Premier League. However, if we aren't in doesn't mean I will stop supporting. If I wanted just success I'd have opted to support Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #51
Nick said:
What happened to those days where people supported their Team (not owners, not cheering directors or councillors, their TEAM) through thick and thin?

You know "city till I die" not "city till we get a few wins or it's a fiver".

I would love success just as much as the next person, I'd love to be in the Premier League. However, if we aren't in doesn't mean I will stop supporting. If I wanted just success I'd have opted to support Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.
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Apparently we are the "happy clapping" minority who are being duped by SISU into supporting a shit club. the real fans are staying away until Sisu go or we have "success" .Funny old world aint it?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #52
Nick said:
I've never happy clapped anything? Ask the people who happy clapped sisu, the people happy clapping Joe Elliott who got them in here. I've only ever clapped or cheered the players and football.

Is supporting your team going to become a hateable offense now then? Nice one.

I thought we were playing nuneaton as an away fixture this season, or are being liquidated?

How long until People get stick for going to home games???? It's certainly brewing
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I never said anything about hating the team so don't try and make out I did.

I wish you could watch the team and blissfully ignoring what's happening off field to the club but I can't as one is linked directly to the other. People can go on ignoring this but they are connected.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #53
AndreasB said:
We are more likely to get promoted than relegated this season. That doesnt fit with your narrative though does it? Assume all the NOPM will still stay away if we get into the top 6?
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I admire your optimism and I hope you're right. I just can't think of a reason for you to think this. Relegation might not happen this season but as long as SISU are at the steering wheel its always going to be more likely. If nothing else the last seven years should have taught all of us this but apparently not.
 

albatross

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #54
Nick, In the past the regimes of Richardson etc (irrespective of if you believed they were irresponsible) at least they attempted to deliver on the Pitch which is what the Supporters will pay to see. They invested and lost their own money.

Our Current owners attention has been anywhere but with matters on the field, that i think is where the big dislocation from club and Fans has its roots.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #55
AndreasB said:
I interprate what I see - 27k for Gillingham who wouldnt support a winning team the week after the club had given them something very real "to rally round".
Also , the mouth breathing bellends on here who fill up threads calling for the manager to be sacked EVERY time we lose a game have no right to lecture anyone about anything.
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Was the stadium empty at the next game then?
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #56
skybluetony176 said:
Was the stadium empty at the next game then?
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ok, it was only 2/3rds empty, quite an achievement.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #57
AndreasB said:
ok, it was only 2/3rds empty, quite an achievement.
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Yep. What have SISU done about it?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #58
skybluetony176 said:
I never said anything about hating the team so don't try and make out I did.

I wish you could watch the team and blissfully ignoring what's happening off field to the club but I can't as one is linked directly to the other. People can go on ignoring this but they are connected.
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Where did I say anything about hating the team?????

You have people moaning on the Nouble thread about players not being committed, what do they expect when the majority of our fans will only turn up for a big occasion, when its cheap or when we are in the top 6?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #59
Nick said:
Where did I say anything about hating the team?????

You have people moaning on the Nouble thread about players not being committed, what do they expect when the majority of our fans will only turn up for a big occasion, when its cheap or when we are in the top 6?
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Sorry I misread what you said.

I guess there's not a committed player anywhere in the world then as our fan's are no different to any other teams fans. All teams have fans that jump on board for the big games. I also believe any team would have the same decline in fans if they'd been through what we have. But it's all the fans fault as always.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #60
skybluetony176 said:
Sorry I misread what you said.

I guess there's not a committed player anywhere in the world then as our fan's are no different to any other teams fans. All teams have fans that jump on board for the big games. I also believe any team would have the same decline in fans if they'd been through what we have. But it's all the fans fault as always.
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Yes all teams do have fans that jump on big games.

Where did I say it's the fans fault?

People moan about players only committing short team while at the same time they bang on about people only going if we are top 6 etc.
 
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AndreasB

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #61
skybluetony176 said:
Sorry I misread what you said.

I guess there's not a committed player anywhere in the world then as our fan's are no different to any other teams fans. All teams have fans that jump on board for the big games. I also believe any team would have the same decline in fans if they'd been through what we have. But it's all the fans fault as always.
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I do agree that not offering a season ticket installment was an absolutely awful decision - that is the the sort of single issue decision that a united front of fans could have got changed with a concerted campaign - there was no real protest against it, more a general grumbling. If everyone who called C&W mentioned it, something would have to happen.

Im still not convinced though this would have put on more than a few hundred extra ST sales...
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #62
Nick said:
What happened to those days where people supported their Team (not owners, not cheering directors or councillors, their TEAM) through thick and thin?

You know "city till I die" not "city till we get a few wins or it's a fiver".QUOTE]

We got shat on so much by the worse owners that the club has ever had that we decided not to pay our hard-earned on them every week? I had a ST every year until Sixfields: since then, I have been to precisely one game. If they had never left for Northampton, I'd most likely still have a ST. But I'm not prepared to make that much of a commitment-or any, in fact-to the bastards again. Tbf, I almost stopped supporting the club entirely, it's only in the past few months that I've got a bit interested again. And I'm not sure why I have...

I think you need to consider the financial element, too: our support is not something that the club has a God-given right to. It sounds like a caviar tasting convention at times the way some of you assume that we can all actually afford to go every week. For every supporter I personally know apart from Torch, that simply isn't the case. It's a tough decision to waste that much money on a game-which will almost certainly be shite entertainment. Given the choice, I'd rather buy food for 5 days instead!
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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #63
Nick said:
Where did I say anything about hating the team?????

You have people moaning on the Nouble thread about players not being committed, what do they expect when the majority of our fans will only turn up for a big occasion, when its cheap or when we are in the top 6?
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It's their JOB, FFS!!! They get paid to work hard! It COSTS us money to go! What a ridiculous comparison.
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 8, 2015
  • #64
Nonleagueherewecome said:
It's their JOB, FFS!!! They get paid to work hard! It COSTS us money to go! What a ridiculous comparison.
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Exactly and it us fickle fans who go every week but don't really care about the club.
We have a right to complain about players,We help pay their over inflated wages.
 
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RFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2015
  • #65
Nick said:
Yes all teams do have fans that jump on big games.

Where did I say it's the fans fault?

People moan about players only committing short team while at the same time they bang on about people only going if we are top 6 etc.
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Worth remembering ...........

"SandraGarlick: Social Media tip: Think before you post! What you put online or in print is valid evidence in court. Is it factually true?"
 
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AndreasB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2015
  • #66
RFC said:
Worth remembering ...........

"SandraGarlick: Social Media tip: Think before you post! What you put online or in print is valid evidence in court. Is it factually true?"
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I would be happy to go into a courtroom with La Garlick to get to the bottom of whether there is a new stadium or not - she seems happy to tweet that as a "fact"
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 9, 2015
  • #67
Ha....RFC quoting Sandra Garlick with reference to publishing FACTS......Ha Ha Ha HELP !!!
 
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