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tired of ranting at SISU try BigRon instead (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter shy_tall_knight
  • Start date Feb 12, 2014
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #1
BigRon the worst managerial appointment in the club's history, admittedly he only spent what the owners permitted but these purchases were generally poor and did nothing to improve the quality of the team's performance.

In 1994 CCFC was a well managed prudent football team, it waited for the sale of Phil Babb to Liverpool until it spent these proceeds on Dion and a few other players. In Jan 95 Phil Neale was relieved of his duties to be replaced by BigRon. Avoided relegation on the penultimate game of 94/95 and then on the final game of 95/96. Leaves in oct 96 with the team in the relegation zone, having spent £17m.

McAllister at £3m was a quality signing but left for free after 4 seasons, Jess & Daish - utter waste of money never PL quality. Salako & wheelan clearly quality players but unmanageable with Salako leaving on a free and cov only getting £1m for wheelan having bought him for £2m. Paul Williams, Telfer & Burrows both cost approx £1m each but never looked capable of cutting it in the PL. Richard Shaw was a city legend but probably need to challenge the price we paid for him also. There were purchases like Lamptey & Isias who failed to get into the team but no doubt cost lots in agent fees etc.. Kevin Richardson was his only shrewd purchase.

Having spent all that money we were still giving games to Marcus & Busst on a regular basis who again were not up to PL standard - not being nasty but honest. Without Dion's goals that team despite the spending were nailed on relegation candidates.

There was no success, no cup runs no massive impact on crowds other than the first few games. The clubs debts went out of control and the rest is history.
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #2
Whelan was sold for 2.2 million and played over 150 games for us. Burrows played over 100 games for us and over 150 for Liverpool. Shaw played for years for us, Telfer decent prem player.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #3
Yes Wikipedia does say we sold him for £2.2m - shocked he was so out of condition in his final season he was getting booed by Cov Fans, never rated shaw too small to be a centre half, Telfer good first couple of seasons hard worker but lacked quality, not much better than mike marsh or sean flynn.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #4
shy_tall_knight said:
BigRon the worst managerial appointment in the club's history, admittedly he only spent what the owners permitted but these purchases were generally poor and did nothing to improve the quality of the team's performance.

In 1994 CCFC was a well managed prudent football team, it waited for the sale of Phil Babb to Liverpool until it spent these proceeds on Dion and a few other players. In Jan 95 Phil Neale was relieved of his duties to be replaced by BigRon. Avoided relegation on the penultimate game of 94/95 and then on the final game of 95/96. Leaves in oct 96 with the team in the relegation zone, having spent £17m.

McAllister at £3m was a quality signing but left for free after 4 seasons, Jess & Daish - utter waste of money never PL quality. Salako & wheelan clearly quality players but unmanageable with Salako leaving on a free and cov only getting £1m for wheelan having bought him for £2m. Paul Williams, Telfer & Burrows both cost approx £1m each but never looked capable of cutting it in the PL. Richard Shaw was a city legend but probably need to challenge the price we paid for him also. There were purchases like Lamptey & Isias who failed to get into the team but no doubt cost lots in agent fees etc.. Kevin Richardson was his only shrewd purchase.

Having spent all that money we were still giving games to Marcus & Busst on a regular basis who again were not up to PL standard - not being nasty but honest. Without Dion's goals that team despite the spending were nailed on relegation candidates.

There was no success, no cup runs no massive impact on crowds other than the first few games. The clubs debts went out of control and the rest is history.
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Are you drunk?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #5
Huckerby an Atkinson signing, but overall agree.

Strachan also spunked an awful lot of money on some strange signings too.

I hope he picked up a free CD of Peruvian Pan Pipe versions of Enya songs when he discovered our South American signings busking in the Precinct.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #6
I'm not sure who actually signed Hucks but made his debut under Strachan. As for being drunk I think that charge should be aimed and the directors allowing the purchase of Daish Jess and £3m for a 31 year old McCallister was money we couldn't afford. Gredel is upset cos he can't blame the council for the BigRon era
 
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DaleM

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #7
Fuckin ' hell . Next thing we will be blaming the Germans for no income for 6 years .
 

Covstu

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #8
I think you also fail to mention that big ron attracted both players and fans, attendances increased and without big ron we would have never attracted any of these good players you mention.
 
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DaleM

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #9
Who's tired of blaming SISU ? I'm not, I think they are all C-Units who all deserve a good old painful butt fucking with a large inaminate object .
 
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ollyservetta

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #10
whealans problem was his inability to use shop doors and choosing to put his foot threw windows instead ,and getting a hiding in dunchurch of a fellow player
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #11
Certainly had a Poncho for South Americans ................Sorry Penchant .
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #12
shy_tall_knight said:
I'm not sure who actually signed Hucks but made his debut under Strachan. As for being drunk I think that charge should be aimed and the directors allowing the purchase of Daish Jess and £3m for a 31 year old McCallister was money we couldn't afford. Gredel is upset cos he can't blame the council for the BigRon era
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Yes you are right it was a lot better under Phil Neal and prior to him Bobby Gould. I hark back for those quality players - Pickering, Morgan, Rennie, Gayle, woods, Darby and I agree those other players who latterly cost £1 million or so - Kyle, Mckenzie and Eastwood were so superior.
 
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jas365

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #13
Terry Butcher and Peter Reid were both worse appointments than RA in my opinion
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #14
Could be wrong, but was under the impression that to help raise the money to pay the wages of Big Rons signings, a lot of up and coming players that were coming through the ranks were released.

Could be argued that they were released as it was felt they would not make the grade.

Always remember at the time thinking that CCFC had never operated like this before.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #15
Grendel said:
Yes you are right it was a lot better under Phil Neal and prior to him Bobby Gould. I hark back for those quality players - Pickering, Morgan, Rennie, Gayle, woods, Darby and I agree those other players who latterly cost £1 million or so - Kyle, Mckenzie and Eastwood were so superior.
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BigRon was brought in and given the mandate and resources to take us to the next level. Phil neal & bobby gould weren't - lower league signings but season 93/94 still finished 11th out of 22 teams. Bigron relied on Oggy Dion and Strachan to keep the team up, he can only claim credit for Strachan who had been bought in as assistant manager more than as a player.

As for McAllister won't doubt his quality but a big fee plus a big salary can't say it was value for money, during his first 4 years the best performance of the team was when he was missing from 97-98. the fact that Marcus Rennie & Busst played so many games for Bigron is evidence of his poor ability in building a team.
 
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RFC

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  • Feb 12, 2014
  • #16
jas365 said:
Terry Butcher and Peter Reid were both worse appointments than RA in my opinion
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Ah at last, someone who's spotted the reality.

Hindsight is something we could all do with IMHO. PUSB!
 

Hobo

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2014
  • #17
Terry Butcher and Peter Reid were worse than Big Ron
Paul Telfer quality Prem Player? He was tactically useless. Ran around a lot normally at the wrong times and rarely did his crosses get past the first defender. His career was based on Strachan taking him every where he went.
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 13, 2014
  • #18
Paul Telfer. Decent player but wouldn't say Premier League standard, his biggest problem was that we was always played on the wide right of midfield when he clearly was never a winger.

Richard Shaw. Mostly he was an awful player and cost us more goals than most people care to imagine.
 

Warwickhunt

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  • Feb 13, 2014
  • #19
DaleM said:
Who's tired of blaming SISU ? I'm not, I think they are all C-Units who all deserve a good old painful butt fucking with a large inaminate object .
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I think the quote you are looking for is - "Needs Fucking with the Fat end of a Rag mans Trumpet"
 

CJ_covblaze

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  • Feb 14, 2014
  • #20
jas365 said:
Terry Butcher and Peter Reid were both worse appointments than RA in my opinion
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Agree however Butcher signed one of the 3 best players (Nilsson and Keane are the other 2) I've seen in a City shirt.

Worst manager we've had since I started watching (91/92) is Dowie imo.
 

Covstu

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 14, 2014
  • #21
shy_tall_knight said:
BigRon was brought in and given the mandate and resources to take us to the next level. Phil neal & bobby gould weren't - lower league signings but season 93/94 still finished 11th out of 22 teams. Bigron relied on Oggy Dion and Strachan to keep the team up, he can only claim credit for Strachan who had been bought in as assistant manager more than as a player.

As for McAllister won't doubt his quality but a big fee plus a big salary can't say it was value for money, during his first 4 years the best performance of the team was when he was missing from 97-98. the fact that Marcus Rennie & Busst played so many games for Bigron is evidence of his poor ability in building a team.
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Doesn't every manager rely on their best players to do a job for them???
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Feb 14, 2014
  • #22
I 'ate Ron Atkinson! :jerkit:
 
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