I’m spotting similarities, not saying they’re identical. People tend to let bad performances slide as long as the results hold.Still not the same though is it- you’re comparing a group of players who even with Southgate’s approach got to two finals & who arguably are up there with the most talented groups in world football.
You could argue without their howler they win. Both the keeper and defender should’ve blocked Hadji’s shotWe don’t make that one howler and we win.
I genuinely don’t understand what people were looking for tonight, a great performance was highly unlikely to happen.
an error strewn nervy match was always the likeliest outcome and that’s exactly what happened.
Nothing has changed for me, apart from it’s a point which might help a bit with the confidence, and onto the next one, where I hope to god the atmosphere doesn’t turn toxic if we’re nervy and low on confidence again.
Let’s hope we somehow survive this season and get the chance to correct the problem in the same way. I just don’t think this team has it in them.Adi was fired but should have been replaced.
I'm not against the new coaching system, but you don't just rip up what's brought you success, you introduce new methods gradually.
We've made major changes all in one go and it's showing.
I can't think of another team with a structure
and a lop sided squad like ours.
Think it was FP said Sunderland were similar last year and were awful, have now added a bit of experience and are flying.
You could argue without their howler they win. Both the keeper and defender should’ve blocked Hadji’s shot
Could be a blessing in disguise. Torp was the only midfielder who was looking quickly to get us moving forward.I only saw the second half. I didn't think we were that bad. Certainly should have won. Just some bad decision making and I didn't see the performance as shit, just saw a team low on confidence, which is natural.
Simms fluffed his lines twice, which was really annoying.
We should have won.
I would fancy our chances against Luton on Saturday, but losing Eccles could be a big blow. Any news on how he is?
Which appears to be what's actually happening IMO!He'd only do that if he was a complete idiot prepared to write off 2.5 years salary
I'm not sure about this they sucked us on I thought, regarding the goal oggy thought he could have been anticipating a deflection?Oh give it a rest, we only didn't win due to a silly goalkeeping error
I think Dovin thought the shot was going to go to his right, deceived by the bounce , hopefully will learn from that error.I'm not sure about this they sucked us on I thought, regarding the goal oggy thought he could have been anticipating a deflection?
Are people still convinced we’re a game or two away from one of robins classic winning runs up the table?
Because I think we just played a genuine relegation candidate and looked 2nd best for most of it.
Many of these players were part of a team that finished 9th last season. That tells me they can’t suddenly have become not good enough for the level.I think people are entitled to live in hope but at the same time I totally respect those that are exercising serious concern as well. We look absolutely awful and so many players look like they're off it. It's scary. Not even like some are cheap bargains not quite coming off. We have players worth millions seemingly looking like they don't belong anywhere near this standard.
If this what's driving thing's I'd give some debut's on Saturday and recall the loans for this fixture play them and test it personally and if he gets the boot at least he'd get compensated?Adi was fired but should have been replaced.
I'm not against the new coaching system, but you don't just rip up what's brought you success, you introduce new methods gradually.
We've made major changes all in one go and it's showing.
I can't think of another team with a structure
and a lop sided squad like ours.
Think it was FP said Sunderland were similar last year and were awful, have now added a bit of experience and are flying.
its looking like we haven’t got the players capable of doing it this time, sheafs not got the quality around him, he’s getting found out , Eccles has never been good enough for me, the defence speaks for itself and we change formation far too much, top sides pick their best 11 and formation and stick with it, no wonder our forwards have got no confidence, they’re not in the team long enough, and I’m not sure even robins can turn this lot around and he’s looking like he knows he can’t, never seen him so pissed off, players not capable of doing the basicsAre people still convinced we’re a game or two away from one of robins classic winning runs up the table?
Because I think we just played a genuine relegation candidate and looked 2nd best for most of it.
Am I the only one that thought second half was pretty good tonight? One goalkeeping mistake and failing to take 2 brilliant chances shouldnt decide a manager’s future
Yeah obviously not as good as we could be but other than the one time QPR went forward and somehow scored, we dominated that second half.no you’re not the only one- not where we need to be but a lot better.
this is the wrong place to be saying things like that though
It is and we have to wonder why? Especially as we supposedly now have the personnel in the backroom staff who are supposed to deal with the psychological aspects.Many of these players were part of a team that finished 9th last season. That tells me they can’t suddenly have become not good enough for the level.
It’s a mentality thing, and what started with a few wastes of space has now seeped into players who are proven Championship quality.
If he plays like that consistently, he will be back in the team as a starter in no time. He impressed me with the amount of tackles he got stuck into and as you rightly point out, moved the ball forward quickly.Could be a blessing in disguise. Torp was the only midfielder who was looking quickly to get us moving forward.
We looked second best for about half hour after we scored that’s about itAre people still convinced we’re a game or two away from one of robins classic winning runs up the table?
Because I think we just played a genuine relegation candidate and looked 2nd best for most of it.
We looked second best for about half hour after we scored that’s about it
Sorry but that’s Bollocks in my opinion - they had about half hour after we scored where they were in the ascendancyWe came out all guns blazing. Luckily scored. Shit the bed sat back and fucked about and they dominated everything from the 4th minute.
Couple of counter attack breaks full of panic doesn’t count for me.
Sorry but that’s Bollocks in my opinion
Your wouldn't believe what Oggy said just prior to them scoringSound
Which howler are you on about?We don’t make that one howler and we win.
To be fair, I think we all doImagine regardless of what us supporters want, after last night Doug will want a result against Luton.
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