skybluecam
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Yeah none of our current strikers have ever scored late goals in important matches have they
That 2-1 loss to Wolves last year still stings
Yeah none of our current strikers have ever scored late goals in important matches have theyI’m not saying he was a great player.
I’m saying that he never let his head drop, and give him a chance in the 93rd minute & he was likely to score, as he did a few times. I don’t see that ability to keep focussed and not lose confidence in our current strikers.
Ah, that would at least make a bit of sense wouldn't it.The only way it makes sense is Wilson wants to leave and he doesn't want details of an injury being made public.
Just had a quick search and players do have the right for any health or injury problems not to be made public.
Yes and it may well be the case in this scenario but he says (I’ve) “got to stop doing it”Just had a quick search and players do have the right for any health or injury problems not to be made public.
Sounds like it’s a new policy at the club. I could see reasoning for it.
Yes he does, some weird stuff going on behind the scenes at the football club for sureYes and it may well be the case in this scenario but he says (I’ve) “got to stop doing it”
The Premier Package is nothing to do with it. I have one and it is / was (a) a gamble and (b) a hedge against increased ticket season ticket prices. This seasons freezing of ST prices has decreased the value of (b).So when did the 5 year Premier Card come in to play? 2 or 3 seasons left. Robins et al made it clear it was not an immediate fix. I’m just as concerned as many. Perhaps not as concerned as some?
Funny how important Palmer was now that he has gone.Very well reasoned argument. I’d only add that without midfield reinforcements we’re going nowhere regardless of anything else in the side. Zero ability to unlock a defence without ohare palmer or hamer
Maybe the club have just changed the policy from, tell us if you don’t want to share it versus we won’t share until you tell us it’s okay.Yes he does, some weird stuff going on behind the scenes at the football club for sure
It's funny how people forget these statements and say we weren't sold a vision.Let's not forget that alongside the aim of being in the play offs 3 years out of five the owner also said we would never be in a relegation struggle under his ownership... that's why Mark Robins will be in great danger of losing his job right now tbh.
Reading some of this is so depressing. We have had a poor start to the season for sure. It's not great ad I really hope we improve starting tomorrow. But calls for Robins to be sacked are strange in my view. A club like ours needs stability and continuity. We will have some bad periods and some good ones. Had we won 2 of the games we've lost everyone would be fine. After the Blackburn game everyone was excited, that was 3 games ago. We should all calm down.
But we havent. That's the point. And there is no clue when the next win will come.Lose to QPR and we are in the bottom three with as near as blow it a quarter of the season gone. Bottom of the form table for the last 8 matches.Reading some of this is so depressing. We have had a poor start to the season for sure. It's not great ad I really hope we improve starting tomorrow. But calls for Robins to be sacked are strange in my view. A club like ours needs stability and continuity. We will have some bad periods and some good ones. Had we won 2 of the games we've lost everyone would be fine. After the Blackburn game everyone was excited, that was 3 games ago. We should all calm down.
But we havent. That's the point. And there is no clue when the next win will come.Lose to QPR and we are in the bottom three with as near as blow it a quarter of the season gone. Bottom of the form table for the last 8 matches.
The ST sales will go down for sure. There will be the opportunity for hiding behind the sofa TV matches.The Premier Package is nothing to do with it. I have one and it is / was (a) a gamble and (b) a hedge against increased ticket season ticket prices. This seasons freezing of ST prices has decreased the value of (b).
The sell included the " Dream Big, Aim High and Play Up" line and the hype when ST sales were launched - including Robins saying we were going to give it a go.
King said the club needed increased revenues to succeed - they have been delivered. If this season is one of non achievement but not relegation, ST sales will significantly decrease next season. I dread to think what would happen in the case of relegation.
From memory apart from beating a couple of sides who were relegated and a very decent win at home against Leeds our form from March 2024 has been abysmal, simply ignoring our form or suggesting it did not really matter is nonsense.I'm not even staunch against his departure, simply pointing out the flaws in the arguments but you're beyond what's reasonable and won't see any other view. This isn't a black and white argument, but it's becoming petty and childish like the politics thread with clear sides drawn, so I'll make this my last post. Enjoy your irrational 'debating'.
I'm not in the sack Robins camp but I do think his job is very much on the line right now, he's doing and saying some really confusing things currently an example being after the Blackburn win he praised BTA for the best centre forward display he'd seen in a long time,two games later BTA is benched?... makes little sense to me, he's also standing motionless in the technical area throughout most games (which I can't get my head around tbh).there is a clue- the strikers need to start putting chances away. We are creating chances.
If we weren’t creating chances either, well then that’s a different & much more damning situation.
I’ve been thinking what King’s slander name will be after SHITSUTalk of waiting till January to sign some leadership and experience, if indeed we sign anyone it will again be a prospect in his early 20s because Dougie wants profit rather than points.
Completely agree.I normally am the first to wet the bed but has anyone seen the table ? This is the championship, within a few games we could easily be 11th or 12th. I think it's so strange to call for the sacking of a manager who is solely responsible for saving the club over the last 7 years.
Sounds like it’s a new policy at the club. I could see reasoning for it.
Alternatively Wilson has asked for it not to be disclosed (which he legally has the right to, it being personal medical info).
Which is silly really given how simple the guidelines areCould be me being cynical but I feel someone’s been on a training course and now is going around looking for GDPR breaches and it’s one of the most poorly understood pieces of legislation since the Health and Safety Act.
He doesn't know what his best team is, we chop and change every games, like you say last season Simms and Wright were scoring, and I've said this before they have only started 3 games together all season. 3 of a possible 13 games. How are they supposed to get their spark back if they aren't playing together and are playing with someone different every other week?.I think there’s a bit more to it than just Viveash on its own- like I say, last season Wright & Simms were scoring, whereas this season the xg table clearly shows that our inability to finish is costing us very dearly. It’s not so much of a leap to suggest that if we were scoring then this debate would not be happening- an underwhelming start but not a total disaster. There’s also the question of these personal issues which I don’t want to start digging into as it’s just speculation tbh.
so I’m not arguing with you, but again I don’t think it’s as simple as just one thing, a few things have happened all at once. None are unfixable, and I feel Robins has more than earned the chance to fix them- hence my position.
But.. if you’re right and King wants that particular model maybe it’s all irrelevant and he won’t get the time, who knows. I hope not
Perhaps an indicator of different players character, motivation and resolve.He doesn't know what his best team is, we chop and change every games, like you say last season Simms and Wright were scoring, and I've said this before they have only started 3 games together all season. 3 of a possible 13 games. How are they supposed to get their spark back if they aren't playing together and are playing with someone different every other week?.
Can't start Wright because he's been on international duty, but Lati comes straight in, despite not getting back into country to Thursday.
Wright has 3 goals from 3.2 xG and Simms 1 from 1.7. They’re hardly having stinkers, odd to single them out in this way.I think there’s a bit more to it than just Viveash on its own- like I say, last season Wright & Simms were scoring, whereas this season the xg table clearly shows that our inability to finish is costing us very dearly. It’s not so much of a leap to suggest that if we were scoring then this debate would not be happening- an underwhelming start but not a total disaster. There’s also the question of these personal issues which I don’t want to start digging into as it’s just speculation tbh.
so I’m not arguing with you, but again I don’t think it’s as simple as just one thing, a few things have happened all at once. None are unfixable, and I feel Robins has more than earned the chance to fix them- hence my position.
But.. if you’re right and King wants that particular model maybe it’s all irrelevant and he won’t get the time, who knows. I hope not.
It's hardly like Simms and Wright had a great partnership last season. In fact I think they only rarely played together.He doesn't know what his best team is, we chop and change every games, like you say last season Simms and Wright were scoring, and I've said this before they have only started 3 games together all season. 3 of a possible 13 games. How are they supposed to get their spark back if they aren't playing together and are playing with someone different every other week?.
Can't start Wright because he's been on international duty, but Lati comes straight in, despite not getting back into country to Thursday.
It was the same with Sakamoto last season.Maybe the club have just changed the policy from, tell us if you don’t want to share it versus we won’t share until you tell us it’s okay.
It's hardly like Simms and Wright had a great partnership last season. In fact I think they only rarely played together.
Imo Wright has quality, but is a bit of a luxury player given his work rate and lack of engine. I'd still play him though. Simms has huge confidence issues, but is also very limited in his capability. Someone has to lay it on a plate for him and we don't have players who can do that. Norman or BTA are better options.
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