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Adge · Aug 24, 2017

Some of the comments on here are laughable and people think that they know the laws of association football when in truth only referees do. I was also amazed when a player who I was with (who played for a championship team) hadn't even picked up or read a copy of the laws of the game. Then these players think that is acceptable to criticise the referees that do know them! Priceless :emoji_laughing:

SkyblueBazza · Aug 25, 2017

Adge said:
Some of the comments on here are laughable and people think that they know the laws of association football when in truth only referees do. I was also amazed when a player who I was with (who played for a championship team) hadn't even picked up or read a copy of the laws of the game. Then these players think that is acceptable to criticise the referees that do know them! Priceless :emoji_laughing:

So when it comes to time wasting, or in some instances where teams gain advantage, why do refs choose not to apply the rules???

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Nick · Aug 25, 2017

SkyblueBazza said:
So when it comes to time wasting, or in some instances where teams gain advantage, why do refs choose not to apply the rules???

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They don't bother with the 5 or 6 second rule when a goalkeeper has the ball, unless it's been changed?

I_Saw_Shaw_Score · Aug 25, 2017

Nick said:
They don't bother with the 5 or 6 second rule when a goalkeeper has the ball, unless it's been changed?

I may be wrong on this but I'm sure I heard somewhere that it'd been changed to at the refs 'discretion' which if I have got that right opens a massive can of worms!

Nick · Aug 25, 2017

The FA still has it listed

http://www.thefa.com/football-rules.../football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct

An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:

controls the ball with the hands for more than six seconds before releasing it

touches the ball with the hands after:

releasing it and before it has touched another player

it has been deliberately kicked to the goalkeeper by a team-mate

receiving it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate

SkyblueBazza · Aug 25, 2017

Let's be honest. The refs rarely spot or simply ignore the fact that a throw in is taken 10yds further up the pitch

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Otis · Aug 25, 2017

SkyblueBazza said:
Let's be honest. The refs rarely spot or simply ignore the fact that a throw in is taken 10yds further up the pitch

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I spot it all the time. Next home game look up at block 20 and you will see an old bloke pointing and shouting at the ref that the throw's being taken from the wrong place throughout the match.

Nick · Aug 25, 2017

Otis said:
I spot it all the time. Next home game look up at block 20 and you will see an old bloke pointing and shouting at the ref that the throw's being taken from the wrong place throughout the match.

Apart from when it's us.

Otis · Aug 25, 2017

Nick said:
Apart from when it's us.

Yeah, well then I still point, but reduce my shouting to a whisper.

Still annoys me when we do it, cos it's the bloody rules and I think if we do it and then the opposition do it and score a goal as a result of it we'd all go yampy and we wouldn't really have a case!!

Adge · Aug 25, 2017

SkyblueBazza said:
So when it comes to time wasting, or in some instances where teams gain advantage, why do refs choose not to apply the rules???

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Apply the laws you mean? No rules in football only laws. They do apply it but a warning is given first ie-"let's get on with it keeper" or if it's a throw in "let's get going player".
This usually has the desired effect but some will still try and delay and that when the card comes out as they have been warned. Similarly-why do we think there is "time added on for stoppages" at the end of the game?

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT · Aug 25, 2017

Otis said:
I spot it all the time. Next home game look up at block 20 and you will see an old bloke pointing and shouting at the ref that the throw's being taken from the wrong place throughout the match.

SkyblueBazza · Aug 25, 2017

Adge said:
Apply the laws you mean? No rules in football only laws. They do apply it but a warning is given first ie-"let's get on with it keeper" or if it's a throw in "let's get going player".
This usually has the desired effect but some will still try and delay and that when the card comes out as they have been warned. Similarly-why do we think there is "time added on for stoppages" at the end of the game?

Yes so keen to get the game moving they miss the steal of 10yds!

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shmmeee · Aug 25, 2017

Nick said:
The FA still has it listed

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct

No Nick, you’re not Adge so you don’t know the rules. They’re secret and only refs know them.

Adge · Aug 25, 2017

shmmeee said:
No Nick, you’re not Adge so you don’t know the rules. They’re secret and only refs know them.

No rules-just laws! They're not secret and anyone can view them but it is the Refs that will apply them correctly.:happy:

Nick · Aug 26, 2017

Adge said:
No rules-just laws! They're not secret and anyone can view them but it is the Refs that will apply them correctly.:happy:

Or not...

skybluegod · Aug 26, 2017

Adge said:
No rules-just laws! They're not secret and anyone can view them but it is the Refs that will apply them correctly.:happy:

Stop trying to act smarter than you are. There are rules, the ref follows the law of the games, but then also have to implement the rules of the competetion. Even if you do a quick google search I'm sure you will find. Laws of the games and FA rules. Referees job to inforce the rules of the specific competition as well

Adge · Aug 26, 2017

Nick said:
Or not...

And if not will not have a fixture the weekend after.

Adge · Aug 26, 2017

skybluegod said:
Stop trying to act smarter than you are. There are rules, the ref follows the law of the games, but then also have to implement the rules of the competetion. Even if you do a quick google search I'm sure you will find. Laws of the games and FA rules. Referees job to inforce the rules of the specific competition as well

Smarter than I am? People were referring to the Laws of the game as "rules" and are getting confused. You have quite rightly pointed out that there are "competition rules" which have to be followed for example the Premier League will have different competition rules to the FA cup and the most obvious difference being that with an FA cup fixture there will be extra time and kicks from the penalty mark etc to decide a winner on the day. These competition "rules" have to be carried out under the "Laws of the game". Similarly the EFL will have different "competition rules" culminating in the 3rd 4th 5th and 6 th placed teams will go into a playoff etc.

SkyblueBazza · Aug 26, 2017

Adge said:
Smarter than I am? People were referring to the Laws of the game as "rules" and are getting confused. You have quite rightly pointed out that there are "competition rules" which have to be followed for example the Premier League will have different competition rules to the FA cup and the most obvious difference being that with an FA cup fixture there will be extra time and kicks from the penalty mark etc to decide a winner on the day. These competition "rules" have to be carried out under the "Laws of the game". Similarly the EFL will have different "competition rules" culminating in the 3rd 4th 5th and 6 th placed teams will go into a playoff etc.

Which is all irrelevant to time-wasting which is what the thread is about.

The suggestion to change the LAW of the game to play for 30mins is not the answer. Referees have had many many years of opportunity to enforce the laws & rules of the game to ensure that football is played to entertain viewing audiences for as much of the 90 mins as possible. If we have only a best chance of 2/3 of that 90 mins entertainment I would suggest they have failed!

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