Time to go Tim (1 Viewer)

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

I think in many respects fisher has done well in his role at the club.

He took over at a very difficult time and with difficult owners who have challenging objectives. Generally he has handled this well. Waggott was a good addition and he managed a budget well and to the benefit of the team this season.

Huge error of judgement in retaining thorn. He did that it seems almost out of sympathy. Curious really. Anyone with any insight into human characteristics could see he was probably the most unsuited person ever to manage a professional football club. At least he owned up quickly to the error and took action.

His stance against ACL and the council also was impossible to win given some of the curious fans we have but it had to be done and will ultimately benefit the club.

Compared to Elliot he is far superior as his intellect and strategic ability is so much better.

Also he has fronted up on local media to a hostile fan base.

Now however he has crossed a line. This nonsense regarding supposed ground changing was very ill thought through and has shown a total disregard for the supporters. I do not believe we were ever likely to leave the Ricoh. This was grandstanding and filibusting of the lowest order. It has left many fans concerned and worried and this is not acceptable.

I still believe the majority of our woes are connected to the disgraceful council arrangements regarding our rent but for this week alone Tim fall on your sword.

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

Would Boris Johnson or Steven Segal really have done a better job than Thorn?

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

Not a full turnaround Grendo but a turnaround of sorts-good to see common sense prevailing in that head of yours at long last.

Sky Blues · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
I think in many respects fisher has done well in his role at the club.

He took over at a very difficult time and with difficult owners who have challenging objectives. Generally he has handled this well. Waggott was a good addition and he managed a budget well and to the benefit of the team this season.

Huge error of judgement in retaining thorn. He did that it seems almost out of sympathy. Curious really. Anyone with any insight into human characteristics could see he was probably the most unsuited person ever to manage a professional football club. At least he owned up quickly to the error and took action.

His stance against ACL and the council also was impossible to win given some of the curious fans we have but it had to be done and will ultimately benefit the club.

Compared to Elliot he is far superior as his intellect and strategic ability is so much better.

Also he has fronted up on local media to a hostile fan base.

Now however he has crossed a line. This nonsense regarding supposed ground changing was very ill thought through and has shown a total disregard for the supporters. I do not believe we were ever likely to leave the Ricoh. This was grandstanding and filibusting of the lowest order. It has left many fans concerned and worried and this is not acceptable.

I still believe the majority of our woes are connected to the disgraceful council arrangements regarding our rent but for this week alone Tim fall on your sword.

And Grendel sees the light! :welcome:

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Would Boris Johnson or Steven Segal really have done a better job than Thorn?

No one could have done a worse job

Jack Griffin · Mar 25, 2013

For once Grendel I largely agree with you.

Fishers statements are prone to errors of fact, which gives you little confidence in the quality of his judgements and he has alienated the fan base even more by playing fast & loose with their emotions & loyalties.

Though in actual fact, it is "now you (almost) see me now you don't" Ms Seppala that is pulling the strings, and that I feel is the single greatest part of why an agreement cannot be reached, if the Directors of CCFC can't negotiate in good faith without checking back to a shadowy head honcho then the middlemen need to be dispensed with & Ms Seppala needs to front the operation up.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
No one could have done a worse job

To be fair his Texaco interview was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

I agree its time for him to go. As for the rest of it garbage. I iwould rather take the word of PWKH regarding agreements on rent etc then changing their mind the next day. Total shambolic week added to to total shambolicownership. How can "financial experts" in charge of investors millions make such a mess and not notice that they are doing it? How ?

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
No one could have done a worse job

Judi Dench? Michael Fish? Fred West? Chris Huhne? Sarah Ferguson? Lee Evans? Chris Evans? Chris Eubank? Chris Dunn? Lance Armstrong? Hilary Mantel? Les Dennis? Ken Dulieu? Bruce Willis? Ian from Shipston? Shebby Singh? Moleman from The Simpson's? Chris Coleman?!?!?!?

Johnnythespider · Mar 25, 2013

Yes Tim off you pop, there's a good chap, if your'e wondering what to do next, i here ACL are looking for a new chairman :facepalm:

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Judi Dench? Michael Fish? Fred West? Chris Huhne? Sarah Ferguson? Lee Evans? Chris Evans? Chris Eubank? Chris Dunn? Lance Armstrong? Hilary Mantel? Les Dennis? Ken Dulieu? Bruce Willis? Ian from Shipston? Shebby Singh? Moleman from The Simpson's? Chris Coleman?!?!?!?

To be fair I forgot Coleman.

procdoc · Mar 25, 2013

I agree with most of what Grendel says in this thread. There's a sentence I never thought I'd write!

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
To be fair I forgot Coleman.

He was my "ace in the hole".

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

A passionate Motty is onside! Says the FL is complicit: "How have Pompey and Coventry been allowed to get to the state that they have?!?"

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
He was my "ace in the hole".

He looked better in his Armani trench coat though

cloughie · Mar 25, 2013

Johnnythespider said:
Yes Tim off you pop, there's a good chap, if your'e wondering what to do next, i here ACL are looking for a new chairman :facepalm:

heard Cameron and Osbourne were looking to put someone new up front to bluff and bluster and then take the blame

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

cloughie said:
heard Cameron and Osbourne were looking to put someone new up front to bluff and bluster and then take the blame

He's far, far too similar.

wingy · Mar 25, 2013

IF Grenduffy says it Time to go lets hope he does'nt have to bang on as long as he did re; Thorn.Of course we were the ones out of kilter with him back then but its roles reversed this time.

James Smith · Mar 25, 2013

procdoc said:
I agree with most of what Grendel says in this thread. There's a sentence I never thought I'd write!

I feel faint.

skybluesam66 · Mar 25, 2013

he is the most smarmy obnoxious person except paul clouting , that i have ever met

CovFan · Mar 25, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
Judi Dench? Michael Fish? Fred West? Chris Huhne? Sarah Ferguson? Lee Evans? Chris Evans? Chris Eubank? Chris Dunn? Lance Armstrong? Hilary Mantel? Les Dennis? Ken Dulieu? Bruce Willis? Ian from Shipston? Shebby Singh? Moleman from The Simpson's? Chris Coleman?!?!?!?

that reads like a verse from 'We didn't start the fire' by Billy Joel

torchomatic · Mar 25, 2013

It was important for the Club to fight ACL for lower rent as we need to be on a level playing field with other clubs. I was behind the Club withholding monies due until some kind of middle ground could be achieved.

However, I've also been annoyed with all the uncertainty about playing the last three games away from the Ricoh when it was pretty obvious to all that this wasn't likely to happen.

I think he needs to go even if SISU stay at the club, which I doubt.

ACL need to look at their business model, it doesn't work for the football Club and any new owners certainly wouldn't pay the kind of inflated amount we have been for the last seven years.

Grendel said:
I think in many respects fisher has done well in his role at the club.

He took over at a very difficult time and with difficult owners who have challenging objectives. Generally he has handled this well. Waggott was a good addition and he managed a budget well and to the benefit of the team this season.

Huge error of judgement in retaining thorn. He did that it seems almost out of sympathy. Curious really. Anyone with any insight into human characteristics could see he was probably the most unsuited person ever to manage a professional football club. At least he owned up quickly to the error and took action.

His stance against ACL and the council also was impossible to win given some of the curious fans we have but it had to be done and will ultimately benefit the club.

Compared to Elliot he is far superior as his intellect and strategic ability is so much better.

Also he has fronted up on local media to a hostile fan base.

Now however he has crossed a line. This nonsense regarding supposed ground changing was very ill thought through and has shown a total disregard for the supporters. I do not believe we were ever likely to leave the Ricoh. This was grandstanding and filibusting of the lowest order. It has left many fans concerned and worried and this is not acceptable.

I still believe the majority of our woes are connected to the disgraceful council arrangements regarding our rent but for this week alone Tim fall on your sword.

thegameaintstraight · Mar 25, 2013

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not a full turnaround Grendo but a turnaround of sorts-good to see common sense prevailing in that head of yours at long last.

I tell you , there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

CovFan said:
that reads like a verse from 'We didn't start the fire' by Billy Joel

Yeah, I thought that. I even moved "Moleman" so it was next to "Coleman" for that very reason!

Nonleagueherewecome · Mar 25, 2013

thegameaintstraight said:
I tell you , there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.

I don't think Joy will get into heaven. Money lenders in the temple...Jesus is a ST holder, he knows, he'll report her sins.

wingy · Mar 25, 2013

Nonleagueherewecome said:
I don't think Joy will get into heaven. Money lenders in the temple...Jesus is a ST holder, he knows, he'll report her sins.

Jesus Jesus give us a psalm.:facepalm:

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

Fisher has this week become The Clueless One The Second.

wingy · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
Fisher has this week become The Clueless One The Second.

You do make me chuckle:facepalm:

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
Fisher has this week become The Clueless One The Second.

He certainly rivals him in the waistline department.

James Smith · Mar 25, 2013

torchomatic said:
It was important for the Club to fight ACL for lower rent as we need to be on a level playing field with other clubs. I was behind the Club withholding monies due until some kind of middle ground could be achieved.

However, I've also been annoyed with all the uncertainty about playing the last three games away from the Ricoh when it was pretty obvious to all that this wasn't likely to happen.

I think he needs to go even if SISU stay at the club, which I doubt.

ACL need to look at their business model, it doesn't work for the football Club and any new owners certainly wouldn't pay the kind of inflated amount we have been for the last seven years.

What I don't understand is why SISU didn't try and negotiate instead of just withholding rent. Yes the rent is too high and the ACL offers have reduced that, had they been taken up. However where was SISU when it must have been fairly obvious more than a year ago that the rent was too high. Why didn't they start negotiations then?

The person renting my flat whilst I'm working abroad is able to pay the rent but if they came to me I'd consider it

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

torchomatic said:
It was important for the Club to fight ACL for lower rent as we need to be on a level playing field with other clubs. I was behind the Club withholding monies due until some kind of middle ground could be achieved.

However, I've also been annoyed with all the uncertainty about playing the last three games away from the Ricoh when it was pretty obvious to all that this wasn't likely to happen.

I think he needs to go even if SISU stay at the club, which I doubt.

ACL need to look at their business model, it doesn't work for the football Club and any new owners certainly wouldn't pay the kind of inflated amount we have been for the last seven years.

Sorry Torch, but the rent level offered by ACL last was deemed good enough for TF, and they have also made large concessions on F+B revenues and profits (indeed as much as they possibly can), but the club has constantly moved the goalposts. I get the feeling that Fisher is out of his depth in this and SISU really have nowhere else to hide.

James Smith · Mar 25, 2013

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sorry Torch, but the rent level offered by ACL last was deemed good enough for TF, and they have also made large concessions on F+B revenues and profits (indeed as much as they possibly can), but the club has constantly moved the goalposts. I get the feeling that Fisher is out of his depth in this and SISU really have nowhere else to hide.

Of course they do - Ryton.

Grendel · Mar 25, 2013

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sorry Torch, but the rent level offered by ACL last was deemed good enough for TF, and they have also made large concessions on F+B revenues and profits (indeed as much as they possibly can), but the club has constantly moved the goalposts. I get the feeling that Fisher is out of his depth in this and SISU really have nowhere else to hide.

If you think fisher is out if his depth what will Elliot do? He'd be the Andy thorn of chairmen.

Fisher misjudged the will of the people. Hull for example told their council to get stuffed. They wanted £500,000 a year and the club gave them about a tenth of that and then booted council employees from the ground because they weren't paying them!

Whatever the logic or morals football came first.

For I reason I will never understand people here seem bothered about the council and ACL.

If I could gaurentee football for the next 20 years at the Ricoh and the price to pay was that ACL folded and they all lost their jobs I would not lose a wink of sleep.

I suspect some will get very excited by that view.

wingy · Mar 25, 2013

Are you referring to your fellow Rush Fan.

Brighton Sky Blue · Mar 25, 2013

Grendel said:
If you think fisher is out if his depth what will Elliot do? He'd be the Andy thorn of chairmen.

Fisher misjudged the will of the people. Hull for example told their council to get stuffed. They wanted £500,000 a year and the club gave them about a tenth of that and then booted council employees from the ground because they weren't paying them!

Whatever the logic or morals football came first.

For I reason I will never understand people here seem bothered about the council and ACL.

If I could gaurentee football for the next 20 years at the Ricoh and the price to pay was that ACL folded and they all lost their jobs I would not lose a wink of sleep.

I suspect some will get very excited by that view.

If ACL are true to their word about ultimately wanting the club to become owners then I don't see how a change in ownership won't lead to that. Installing Elliot as chairman could well be a disaster, but he's a lot less likely to resort to the antics of the current rabble and more to the point, if we end up with the Higgs share as a consequence of SISU's departure, then the bickering with ACL would come to an end. Why? Because we would become part of ACL.

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