Tim Fishers Appraisal (1 Viewer)

SkyblueSpecial · Apr 15, 2017

His record is incredible

* Joined the CCFC board in summer 2011.
* Made 6 managerial appointments, 5 so far have not been successful.
* Final home game before he joined the board had an attendance of 22,436, compared to the most recent home game of 9479. Average has fell from 16,310 to 9103 - a fall of 44%.
* Final game before he joined the board the club was 18th in the Championship, now 24th in league 1 and heading to the bottom division.
* Took over a club that had a 50 year tenancy agreement in place to play at a stadium in Coventry. Admittedly a bad agreement, but his solution to that was to just not have a secure tenancy.
* Took over a club with a successful academy, now under threat.
* Oversaw the clubs first ever relegation proper from the 3rd tier.
* Done absolutely nothing to increase non matchday revenues - something he himself has said is a priority.

How is this man still in a job?

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed the training ground for housing.

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed shipping team to Northampton.

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed 3 weeks to announce new stadium plans (3+ years ago)

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed amazing generosity on his part for taking no salary.

rupert_bear · Apr 15, 2017

Will be interesting to see what replies your thread gets skybluethere are some on here who fail to see he is the main reason for the decline you so accurately illustrated, a robust campaign to get him out of ccfc is well overdue.

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed farming out club shop and f&b to 3rd parties.

Sbarcher · Apr 15, 2017

Missed getting too close to a razor.

SkyblueSpecial · Apr 15, 2017

rupert_bear said:
Will be interesting to see what replies your thread gets, there are some on here who fail to see he is the main reason for the decline you so accurately illustrated, a robust campaign to get him out of ccfc is well overdue.

Yes I think it needs to get personal. Forget about trying to force Sisu out for now. We need to get Fisher out.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Apr 15, 2017

Tell you what he hasn't half been busy

rupert_bear · Apr 15, 2017

SkyblueSpecial said:
Yes I think it needs to get personal. Forget about trying to force Sisu out for now. We need to get Fisher out.

100% correct fans seem to overlook he gets personal. What we have here is a two headed serpent toxic Tim Fisher and sisu one needs cutting off and I'd put Fisher the priority one.

Generally Midfield · Apr 15, 2017

and this thread shows why from sisus point of view fisher does an excellent job. He limits the amount of flak Seppala takes. He's also stopped ccfc making a loss for sisu which is what sisu are bothered about. Fisher is the monkey not the organ grinder and for things to change it's seppala who has to go

clint van damme · Apr 15, 2017

the OP asks how is he still in a job? Because his sisu paymasters are happy with him, simple as that.
They have less idea of what this club needs than he does. And after 9 years this season has been their worse yet for a whole host of reasons. just demonstrating that they've learnt nothing.

Adge · Apr 15, 2017

Missed taking people's shares off them initially to gain control of the club.

hopesprings · Apr 15, 2017

clint van damme said:
the OP asks how is he still in a job? Because his sisu paymasters are happy with him, simple as that.
They have less idea of what this club needs than he does. And after 9 years this season has been their worse yet for a whole host of reasons. just demonstrating that they've learnt nothing.

Or was his "job" to take the club to extinction! Get their own back on the " City" that buggered their grand plans to make some quick money by getting the Ricoh arena and all thhe land around foe next to nothing. I would also love to know how the hell this man ever achieved anything. He seems to have been to Uni done very well as an engineering student then by a miracle appeared at the head of a bank! Then he gets into football......................infuckincredible!!!!!!!!

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

SkyblueSpecial said:
His record is incredible

* Joined the CCFC board in summer 2011.
* Made 6 managerial appointments, 5 so far have not been successful.
* Final home game before he joined the board had an attendance of 22,436, compared to the most recent home game of 9479. Average has fell from 16,310 to 9103 - a fall of 44%.
* Final game before he joined the board the club was 18th in the Championship, now 24th in league 1 and heading to the bottom division.
* Took over a club that had a 50 year tenancy agreement in place to play at a stadium in Coventry. Admittedly a bad agreement, but his solution to that was to just not have a secure tenancy.
* Took over a club with a successful academy, now under threat.
* Oversaw the clubs first ever relegation proper from the 3rd tier.
* Done absolutely nothing to increase non matchday revenues - something he himself has said is a priority.

How is this man still in a job?

Because it depends on his actual targets doesn't it for his job?

Not losing money

Liquid Gold · Apr 15, 2017

People who blame Fisher are doing exactly what sisu want.

rupert_bear · Apr 15, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
People who blame Fisher are doing exactly what sisu want.

Fisher took us to Northampton which cut atleast 75% of our gate receipts at a stroke. Sepalla new fuck all about it until it happened.

torchomatic · Apr 15, 2017

Adge said:
Missed taking people's shares off them initially to gain control of the club.

With help from Mr Coventry.

skybluetony176 · Apr 15, 2017

Nick said:
Because it depends on his actual targets doesn't it for his job?

Not losing money

He's failed at that to though. How much money have SISU lost since he arrived? It's not like he's got us sitting debt free is it? Has he even shrunk the debt?

Odd defense from you there Nick.

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
He's failed at that to though. How much money have SISU lost since he arrived? It's not like he's got us sitting debt free is it? Has he even shrunk the debt?

Odd defense from you there Nick.

How is it a defence? Surely you can't say "why haven't they sacked him" without knowing his actual job aims?

The debt isn't shrinking, but the leak has been plugged a lot more. So to them it will be seen as better, the football will be irrelevant to them.

skybluetony176 · Apr 15, 2017

Nick said:
How is it a defence? Surely you can't say "why haven't they sacked him" without knowing his actual job aims?

The debt isn't shrinking, but the leak has been plugged a lot more. So to them it will be seen as better, the football will be irrelevant to them.

Because someone lists some (not even all) of his failures and you try and throw a positive in. That isn't actually a positive. The leak he's "plugged" he's largely responsible for creating. Again an odd defense from you.

bawtryneal · Apr 15, 2017

For me his biggest crime is his attitude to the fans (customers) and his supercilious abnoxious style of presentation.
I can honestly say that during my life I have met thousands of people either through buisness or socially of all different faiths, ages, shapes and sizes and he is the most odious of them all.
Getting back to my gardening now !!!

ccfchoi87 · Apr 15, 2017

How is nick defending fisher? We all know fisher is there as a front man to take the abuse. He's got the club operating without the need for sisu to put money in, that's great for them. They'll be hoping for a fluke promotion and maybe our value will rise for a takeover. In their eyes he's doing a grand job

bawtryneal · Apr 15, 2017

Nick said:
How is it a defence? Surely you can't say "why haven't they sacked him" without knowing his actual job aims?

The debt isn't shrinking, but the leak has been plugged a lot more. So to them it will be seen as better, the football will be irrelevant to them.

So Nick, are you suggesting his tenure can be measured as a success. He may well have plugged the leaks but what is he doing regarding achieving debt repayment or debt reduction.
Surely relegation to Division 4 could not have been one of his job aims
Surely reducing average gates by many thousands would not have been a target.

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

bawtryneal said:
So Nick, are you suggesting his tenure can be measured as a success. He may well have plugged the leaks but what is he doing regarding achieving debt repayment or debt reduction.
Surely relegation to Division 4 could not have been one of his job aims
Surely reducing average gates by many thousands would not have been a target.

Yes, I've said he's amazing. Quite clearly.

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Because someone lists some (not even all) of his failures and you try and throw a positive in. That isn't actually a positive. The leak he's "plugged" he's largely responsible for creating. Again an odd defense from you.

Where did I say it's a positive?

The froth is getting worse

covcity4life · Apr 15, 2017

Nick standing up for fisher

And im not even shocked.

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Apr 15, 2017

Nick said:
Because it depends on his actual targets doesn't it for his job?

Not losing money

How has not losing money gone so far? The club is still operating at a loss isn't it?

skybluetony176 · Apr 15, 2017

Nick said:
Where did I say it's a positive?

The froth is getting worse

So you're saying it's a negative then? You felt the need to say he's plugged a leak while failing to point out the bleeding obvious that it's a leak he's largely responsible for. At the very least you're going out your way to put some shine on it by not stating the full picture.

Ashdown · Apr 15, 2017

He has presided over one of the most efficient and shameful asset stripping jobs in football history, upset anyone who can liaise with and help the football club maintain a base in Coventry, alienated local business, reduced the squad continually to low value, short term mercenaries, done a deal on selling off the training ground, lost all the court cases actioned in the clubs name, trashed the future of the academy and sent us spinning to our lowest level in 58 years..................other than that he's done a great job !!

Chipfat · Apr 15, 2017

Fisher has followed his remit to the letter. He is instructed to take the burden of cost off the investors and keep the business afloat. This ways monies can be taken out and past back in the form of loan repayments, pension schemes or wages.

To do these things he has to be able to find away to misdirect, pivot and generally be the barrier and absorb the anger and emotion fans have towards the owners about our football club. He is not stupid and does this very well, but nobody should be under any illusion about the business owners or him, they have no care for your anger, hatred , emotion, commitment, history or love of your football club. They care for business unattached from any of the above.

They are the all seeing eye, but have Tim as the bad guy for a reason. He even is purposely provoking, obnoxious, uncaring and detached by design, it's a misdirection.

And sadly it's working, because if fans think Tim is solely the problem, the trick has worked. He is an actor being directed to speak when told, to appear in front of camera when asked and play the bad guy when its needed. Our club is truly a bad film and if you want a different ending then all the top decision makers and directors have to go for us to see a different ending. Because at minute the ending in this disaster movie doesn't end with the good prevailing.

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

covcity4life said:
Nick standing up for fisher

And im not even shocked.

Where?

More adding to the dribble fest.

skybluetony176 · Apr 15, 2017

Ha ha. Nick accusing everyone who see's through him of being dribbly and frothy. He'll be pulling out the I go to more games than you card next.

Nick · Apr 15, 2017

skybluetony176 said:
Ha ha. Nick accusing everyone who see's through him of being dribbly and frothy. He'll be pulling out the I go to more games than you card next.

See through what? That from sisus perspective he will be doing a sterling job? Hence he is still here.

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