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SBT

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,416
bigfatronssba said:
I’d like a proper answer as to why the Police don’t restrain/chase pitch invaders.

The WMP Cov twitter account said they leave it to the stewards (without explanation why).
Yet the display on the scoreboard says that entering the pitch is a criminal offence.
So we have the Police witnessing a criminal offence whilst doing nothing to stop it.
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We don’t want (nor can we afford) the police to be enforcing every possible crime taking place in the stadium. Coppers everywhere isn’t going to be the answer.
 
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bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,417
SBT said:
We don’t want (nor can we afford) the police to be enforcing every possible crime taking place in the stadium. Coppers everywhere isn’t going to be the answer.
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Entering the field of play is a serious offence we’re told.

If they aren’t going to do something to stop that, what are they there for?
 

chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,418
bigfatronssba said:
I’d like a proper answer as to why the Police don’t restrain/chase pitch invaders.

The WMP Cov twitter account said they leave it to the stewards (without explanation why).
Yet the display on the scoreboard says that entering the pitch is a criminal offence.
So we have the Police witnessing a criminal offence whilst doing nothing to stop it.
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The one the other week was ridiculous. The stewards were clearly struggling to deal with him and there was god knows how many police stood around watching doing nothing to help
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,419
bigfatronssba said:
Entering the field of play is a serious offence we’re told.

If they aren’t going to do something to stop that, what are they there for?
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By criminal offence, they are impling that you'll be off to court, which has happened to two of them.

The strange one is when there has been trouble and the police haven't got involved, like the Derby game
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,420
chiefdave said:
The one the other week was ridiculous. The stewards were clearly struggling to deal with him and there was god knows how many police stood around watching doing nothing to help
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Then acted like the tough guys once the stewards (specifically that woman) did all the hard work
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,421
pusbccfc said:
By criminal offence, they are impling that you'll be off to court, which has happened to two of them.

The strange one is when there has been trouble and the police haven't got involved, like the Derby game
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Is that what they’re saying?
I’m no expert but I always believed there was criminal and civil offences.
If it’s criminal the police should surely be involving themselves?
 

pusbccfc

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,422
bigfatronssba said:
Is that what they’re saying?
I’m no expert but I always believed there was criminal and civil offences.
If it’s criminal the police should surely be involving themselves?
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Yeah they tweeted that two have been to court and received banning orders.
 
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SBT

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,423
bigfatronssba said:
Entering the field of play is a serious offence we’re told.

If they aren’t going to do something to stop that, what are they there for?
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Stealing is also a serious offence, but you don’t see officers stationed by the pic ‘n mix at the cinema ready to swoop in case anyone takes an extra strawberry lace.

The police are there to support the stewards if needed - ideally they wouldn’t have much of a presence at all. I agree the stewards are generally pretty crap (you get what you pay for) but having police on standby to spring into action for every problem in the stadium isn’t desirable or feasible.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,424
SBT said:
Stealing is also a serious offence, but you don’t see officers stationed by the pic ‘n mix at the cinema ready to swoop in case anyone takes an extra strawberry lace.

The police are there to support the stewards if needed - ideally they wouldn’t have much of a presence at all. I agree the stewards are generally pretty crap (you get what you pay for) but having police on standby to spring into action for every problem in the stadium isn’t desirable or feasible.
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But they didn’t support the stewards. They were clearly struggling to get the knob off the pitch and the police just stood watching
 
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SBT

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,425
bigfatronssba said:
But they didn’t support the stewards. They were clearly struggling to get the knob off the pitch and the police just stood watching
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You honestly think the police running onto the pitch to chase down and arrest pitch invaders is going to help the situation?
 

bigfatronssba

Well-Known Member
  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,426
SBT said:
You honestly think the police running onto the pitch to chase down and arrest pitch invaders is going to help the situation?
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In that specific situation yes, absolutely.

It wasn’t as though it was some sort of protest where the invader was trying to make a point that much of the crowd would agree with.
It was a dickhead invading the pitch at a crucial moment who had no reason to do so other than to give himself a sense of importance in his pathetic life.
People cheered when he got hauled off
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,427
SBT said:
You honestly think the police running onto the pitch to chase down and arrest pitch invaders is going to help the situation?
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Absolutely. And why are we paying for the police to be there otherwise? It's outrageous that they stand around and leave it to stewards who are paid a fraction of what they are paid.
 
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SBT

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,428
Deleted member 9744 said:
Absolutely. And why are we paying for the police to be there otherwise? It's outrageous that they stand around and leave it to stewards who are paid a fraction of what they are paid.
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Police aren’t magically better at catching idiots who run on the pitch - they do cost a lot more though. No other big event I’ve seen relies on police to do this, no matter the sport or the country.

As I’ve said, really we want the police to have less of a presence at our games, not more of one.
 

bigfatronssba

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,429
SBT said:
Police aren’t magically better at catching idiots who run on the pitch - they do cost a lot more though. No other big event I’ve seen relies on police to do this, no matter the sport or the country.

As I’ve said, really we want the police to have less of a presence at our games, not more of one.
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They are supposed to be better trained at restraining people than stewards on minimum wage
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • May 13, 2023
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SBT said:
Police aren’t magically better at catching idiots who run on the pitch - they do cost a lot more though. No other big event I’ve seen relies on police to do this, no matter the sport or the country.

As I’ve said, really we want the police to have less of a presence at our games, not more of one.
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They will still have presence regardless. So if we have to pay for them they should at least do something to justify being there.
 

Old Warwickshire lad

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,431
Throwing objects at fans,shouting obscenities and making threats of violence is a public order offence.
Police should arrest them and process them in holding cells .
In court Monday morning, 10 year ban from club.
Soon sort the problem, just needs the police to do their job.
 
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oldfiver

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,432
Since Derby the cost of the police presence has been about £35k a game
 
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theferret

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,433
Not sure what the pitch incursions have to do with the segregation issue. Completely irrelevant.
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,434
Can't believe this thread isn't over yet
 
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M&B Stand

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,435
Warwickshire lad said:
Throwing objects at fans,shouting obscenities and making threats of violence is a public order offence.
Police should arrest them and process them in holding cells .
In court Monday morning, 10 year ban from club.
Soon sort the problem, just needs the police to do their job.
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This.
Sums up society in general these days.
Was reading the other day about some chavs on a flight pissed up fighting, they were discussing the banning drinking on flights because of incidents like that, punish everyone instead of banning the perpetrators from ever flying again.
 
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theferret

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,436
Warwickshire lad said:
Throwing objects at fans,shouting obscenities and making threats of violence is a public order offence.
Police should arrest them and process them in holding cells .
In court Monday morning, 10 year ban from club.
Soon sort the problem, just needs the police to do their job.
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10 year ban for shouting obscenities? Have a word.

*Throwing missiles is obviously different.
 
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AOM

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,437
Evo1883 said:
Can't believe this thread isn't over yet
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If we get to Wembley, it will reach 200 pages
 
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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,438
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chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,439
SBT said:
Police aren’t magically better at catching idiots who run on the pitch - they do cost a lot more though. No other big event I’ve seen relies on police to do this, no matter the sport or the country.

As I’ve said, really we want the police to have less of a presence at our games, not more of one.
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Don't think anyone is suggesting over the top policing and having them wade in if you smuggle in a bottle top. But at the moment we are being told we can't open parts of the ground because the amount of trouble at our games is greater than elsewhere in the country. We're also being charged for a significant police presence every game for the same reason.

Yet we can all see whenever there is an issue the police stand around and do nothing. They can't have it both ways, if there's supposedly a high level of trouble it is literally their job to enforce the law an take appropriate action, if they're not going to do that why are we paying them and allowing them to close parts of the ground?
 
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chiefdave

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  • May 13, 2023
  • #2,440
Not sure if this has already been posted and I've missed it. Tickets are back on sale again! Platinum balcony this time, now available online.

 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 13, 2023
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pusbccfc

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  • May 14, 2023
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Only just noticed they have shutters in Singers Corner. Definitely potential for this to the away end. The turnstiles are down by the shop too so could be easily managed down there.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,443
The attendance was shocking today. Some people couldn’t get a ticket for trying but there was loads of empty seats all over the ground. Only 28k
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,444
Rich said:
The attendance was shocking today. Some people couldn’t get a ticket for trying but there was loads of empty seats all over the ground. Only 28k
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SAG got what they wanted
 
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Boosh

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,445
Ffs Frasers
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,446
Loads of empty seats dotted around because loads moved round to the corner and stood there.
 
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theferret

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,447
Rich said:
The attendance was shocking today. Some people couldn’t get a ticket for trying but there was loads of empty seats all over the ground. Only 28k
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It's a joke. The segregated seats is one thing, but there were clearly seats that had not been sold, looked really sparse around block 25. Questions need asking. Boro fans outside the ground laughing amongst themselves about how tinpot we are for not filling the stadium. No excuses for not selling all available seats.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,448
Shameful from the SAG. No trouble at all.

All these stewards and officers and couldn't give us more seats. Doug and Boddy need to get this sorted.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,449
theferret said:
It's a joke. The segregated seats is one thing, but there were clearly seats that had not been sold, looked really sparse around block 25. Questions need asking. Boro fans outside the ground laughing amongst themselves about how tinpot we are for not filling the stadium. No excuses for not selling all available seats.
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Like I said, the over zealous safety team are to thank for that. Making it look like we can’t sell out a game of this magnitude
 
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theferret

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  • May 14, 2023
  • #2,450
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Like I said, the over zealous safety team are to thank for that. Making it look like we can’t sell out a game of this magnitude
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Absolutely, but why were seats that were sold for the Blues game not sold for this one? It's really odd.
 
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