Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Agreed
AgreedThe problem other than minor UX complaints really is the segregation and I don’t understand why, 16 years after opening, we don’t have a clear answer of what we can do in a sell out situation.
I've got a ST and I cant log on to the etickets site - Won't acknowledge my supporter number or email details.Struggling to understand the meltdowns over tickets. If you have a season ticket you'll get one, if you don't then you run the risk of not getting one. That's ALWAYS been the case
I've got a ST and I cant log on to the etickets site - Won't acknowledge my supporter number or email details.
I've even tried re registering - Just wipes all details once I hit 'submit'.
On afternoon shift this week so that's me done for.
Not had a meltdown - I'm just not surprised and it reconfirms my long time hatred of most things 'techie'.
Pretty sure the SAG can force it to be behind closed doors can't they?
The safety license would be with Frasers now wouldn't it?
If it doesn't then someone must have purchased your ticket on another account
Think he's on about logging in.
How would that be enforced though? What would be the consequences of ignoring them?
The safety license will be with Frasers, but its for operations within the ground. The club have to abide by the terms of the license, which allows up to 32k football spectators
Reducing the capacity of all, or part of, a sports ground is a formal action which would be appropriate in the following situations:
Any new capacity should be properly calculated having regard to the change in circumstances and the procedures to be followed will be the same as during the routine annual review of the Safety Certificate. Ground management should be invited to submit its proposed revised (P) or (S) factor, but the Council reserve the right to overrule this if appropriate.
- if an incident suggests that the management of a sports ground is performing poorly or
- if the Council’s inspecting personnel identify any deficiencies in the fabric, equipment, records or management systems, which the authority has not already taken into account when accepting or calculating the permitted capacity.
When reducing a capacity, it is important that:
Once the remedial measures or improvements have been implemented consideration should be given to restoring the original capacity.
- Officers act reasonably and in accordance with due process, not least because the certificate holder has a right of appeal against any reduction in capacity; and
- a formal amendment to the Safety Certificate is issued.
Please forgive me for being so obtuse but selling ST holders 2 tickets is going to be handing over a lot of tickets to normally disinterested partners/ family/ friends etc I suspect and potentially cutting out fans who can’t justify a ST but perhaps go 10 home games a season
That reads as though its only a consequence of something happening. Such as having no segregation and their being a huge punch up. I think we all agree there needs to be safety measures in place, just not the over the top stuff we have now.There are several courses of action open to the Council’s Enforcement Officers depending on the different circumstances that may be encountered or apply to the situation. The choices of enforcement action are:
- Informal Warning.
- Reduction in Capacity.
- Prohibition Notice.
- Simple Caution.
- Prosecution.
Very generally though the issues here don’t affect the safety notice I don’t thinkThere are several courses of action open to the Council’s Enforcement Officers depending on the different circumstances that may be encountered or apply to the situation. The choices of enforcement action are:
- Informal Warning.
- Reduction in Capacity.
- Prohibition Notice.
- Simple Caution.
- Prosecution.
That reads as though its only a consequence of something happening. Such as having no segregation and their being a huge punch up. I think we all agree there needs to be safety measures in place, just not the over the top stuff we have now.
From that it seems if we opened up every block, have a small but solid level of segregation, and the game went peacefully, then the SAG would be powerless to punish the club.
Perhaps you’re right but say people who go 6 then ? Against Joe Blogs Mum who hasn’t been since 2010…..doesn’t seem quite right to me.If they can afford 10 they can afford a season ticket
If they can afford 10 they can afford a season ticket
It's not just affordability it's also opportunity. I tend to go when my son is home from uni as not that much fun going on your own. Covering weekends and evenings at work also comes into it.If they can afford 10 they can afford a season ticket
Punish them for what though? There is nothing on that list that says we can't sell every blockGuess they would punish the person from Frasers (if the license is in their name?)
It's not just affordability it's also opportunity. I tend to go when my son is home from uni as not that much fun going on your own. Covering weekends and evenings at work also comes into it.
I agree that they themselves should indeed be treated with preference but not in that fashion…..it opens up to selling precious tickets to bandwagon Charlie’s who never normally go or might not even support the club.Its all fine but I honestly believe that Season Ticket holders are and should be treated as the top of the pile and with that has to come benefits. Its a benefit of the commitment that they have put into the club.
Don't disagree with you, it's the degree of the benefit and priority received given that there a baked in cost reduction from making that commitment.Its all fine but I honestly believe that Season Ticket holders are and should be treated as the top of the pile and with that has to come benefits. Its a benefit of the commitment that they have put into the club.
I agree that they themselves should indeed be treated with preference but not in that fashion…..it opens up to selling precious tickets to bandwagon Charlie’s who never normally go or might not even support the club.
Yep.
Of course season ticket holders deserve to be rewarded and that reward should be priority sale period.
Giving them an extra ticket means it's more beneficial to know a season ticket holder than to attend 10 games a season.
Too rightNo its a reward for loyalty to the Season Ticket holder who has invested in the club
We will I am sure get at least two tickets per holder for Wembley - sends a message - if you want to be on the journey get a season ticket
No its a reward for loyalty to the Season Ticket holder who has invested in the club
We will I am sure get at least two tickets per holder for Wembley - sends a message - if you want to be on the journey get a season ticket
You just said yourself the person who goes to 10 games has invested as much as the season ticket holder...
To be honest I can't remember using it previously.He said the site doesn't recognise his supporter number - don't see how it can't
How the hell is it rewarding the season ticket holder? It should have been one ticket for each season ticket holder, not you can buy an extra ticket for your mate who only wants to go because it’s a big game not to be seen again till the next big game. The reward for the season ticket holder is getting their own seat.No its a reward for loyalty to the Season Ticket holder who has invested in the club
We will I am sure get at least two tickets per holder for Wembley - sends a message - if you want to be on the journey get a season ticket
To be fair, my extra one is for somebody getting a season ticket after paying on the day for about 10 games this season.How the hell is it rewarding the season ticket holder? It should have been one ticket for each season ticket holder, not you can buy an extra ticket for your mate who only wants to go because it’s a big game not to be seen again till the next big game. The reward for the season ticket holder is getting their own seat.
Not just city
That’s fair enough however the majority will be for what I mentioned or their wives who spend all season moaning that their husbands spend Saturdays watching 22 grown men kicking a football.To be fair, my extra one is for somebody getting a season ticket after paying on the day for about 10 games this season.
Think they have a fair sized segregation of a couple thousand up the topBet they aren't closing a whole stand for segregation though!
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