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  • Thread starter The Philosopher
  • Start date Jan 9, 2021
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The Philosopher

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #1
Over this season I’ve seen our throw in strategy somewhat lacking.

Our players seem to have no clue what to do and often we seem to either be pressed out of anything or go backwards for a defender / goalie to lump forwards with possession often lost as a result.

I hope our coaching staff have picked up on this and are going to sort this out.

Just an observation.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #2
Been the same for years
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #3
Agree completely. We seem to give possession away far too often when taking throw ins. We never seem to take a quick one. It’s not just us though. Most English teams seem to leave the throw ins to the full backs. By the time the full back has jogged up and picked up the ball everyone is marked. So they hurl it up the line as far as they can. Inevitably losing possession as the target is marked tightly. In contrast watch Barcelona. The nearest man nearly always takes the throw not allowing the opposition to mark up.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #4
When we were at HR the guy who sat behind me used to go mad saying we are terrible at throw ins and haven’t been any good for decades. Nice old guy but used to go wild at the little things and was always spitting when he spoke. Spent one game constantly shouting you camel at Sol Campbell. He had a heart attack during a game there and they took him out on a stretcher and I assumed he was dead but about a month later he was back just the same.
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #5
The Philosopher said:
Over this season I’ve seen our throw in strategy somewhat lacking.

Our players seem to have no clue what to do and often we seem to either be pressed out of anything or go backwards for a defender / goalie to lump forwards with possession often lost as a result.

I hope our coaching staff have picked up on this and are going to sort this out.

Just an observation.
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Yep. Agree, we are terrible with throw ins. I've seen us on a few occasions this season take a throw in mid way in the opposition half to a midfielder who goes backwards to a CH who in turn goes backwards to the keeper. In 3 touches weve gone from 15 yards from their box to our keeper

It doesn't help either we seem so reliant on Dabo/McCallum/Giles taking them. We never seem to want to take a quick throw in. We'll just wait 60 seconds for the wing backs to jog 50yards to then just tale the throw in backwards.

In my entire lifetime of supporting CCFC weve never been any good at nor taken advantage of set pieces really. Free kicks, throw ins or corners. So many teams take advantage of them against us, but we rarely profit from them. Even when we had Gunnarson, Stoke built there whole team around a long throw and set pieces, I think we only ever scored 1 goal from a Gunnarson long throw (Scott Dann, Newcastle FA Cup).

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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #6
Terry Gibson's perm said:
When we were at HR the guy who sat behind me used to go mad saying we are terrible at throw ins and haven’t been any good for decades. Nice old guy but used to go wild at the little things and was always spitting when he spoke. Spent one game constantly shouting you camel at Sol Campbell. He had a heart attack during a game there and they took him out on a stretcher and I assumed he was dead but about a month later he was back just the same.
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Was his name Lazarus.....What a recovdry!
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #7
Should read ..... recovery
 

Somerset Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #8
McCallum can take a good long throw too, shame not to use this better.
As other say, he trots up the pitch then throws it back to a CB, who then roll it around the back for a while!
 
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Magwitch

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #9
Colin Steins Smile said:
Was his name Lazarus.....What a recovdry!
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He used to play for QPR years ago, good winger.
 

cc84cov

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #10
The Philosopher said:
Over this season I’ve seen our throw in strategy somewhat lacking.

Our players seem to have no clue what to do and often we seem to either be pressed out of anything or go backwards for a defender / goalie to lump forwards with possession often lost as a result.

I hope our coaching staff have picked up on this and are going to sort this out.

Just an observation.
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Same as corners...this new short one pisses me off
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #11
Set pieces are greatly overestimated by fans as goalscoring opportunities

 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #12
Saddlebrains said:
Been the same for years
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Every team would say the same thing.
 

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #13
Londonccfcfan said:
Every team would say the same thing.
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True, fans think their team are awful at them but they are poor goalscoring opportunities, video I posted above says 1 in every 100 directly results in a goal.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #14
They seem to be able to throw it on the pitch just fine.
 

speedie87

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #15
We take to many throws backwards or square into a tight area.
I swear if you just throw in 15 yards up the line only a yard in you get 50% chance of winning another throw 15 yards higher up the pitch
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #16
McCallum is a really good throw in taker. But on this and most things he is underrated by many on here.
 
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Somerset Sky Blue

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  • Jan 9, 2021
  • #17
speedie87 said:
We take to many throws backwards or square into a tight area.
I swear if you just throw in 15 yards up the line only a yard in you get 50% chance of winning another throw 15 yards higher up the pitch
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Use this to move up the pitch, win a corner, play it short and aim to win another throw....repeat from 80 minutes when ahead!
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #18
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Set pieces are greatly overestimated by fans as goalscoring opportunities

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Agree somewhat but my earlier comment was about losing possession from throw ins. Isn’t our game play supposed to be based on possession and playing out from the back?
 
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SAJ

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #19
I’ve always thought we have poor at taking throw ins. I don’t think it’s a coincidence but since Liverpool and Midtjylland in Denmark have employed Thomas Gronnemark both have gone on to win their respective titles. He had worked out generally you get 50 throw ins a match of which most sides do exactly what we do and lose the ball 50% of throw ins. Be concentrating a team effort for a short period of time getting whoever was closest to the ball to take the throw quickly as Barcelona tend to do you can improve your success rate up to 75% easily. As soon as both teams started doing this they have both on average scored 8 more goals a season directly from throw ins. Over the course of a season that’s got to be worth a few points and if nothing else improves your goal difference.
Makes you wonder if it’s worth while either employing someone who specialises in this area at some point in the season pre season for a short period to focus the team on it.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #20
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Set pieces are greatly overestimated by fans as goalscoring opportunities

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Yeah yeah long term the trend is down, but goals are still scored from them and the fact remains in comparison to the rest of the league we don’t score enough of our goals through them.
 

Terry_dactyl

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #21
last season I was watching the movement of O’hare and Allen and thinking how well orchestrated they are...loads of running in and out to make space, with the thrower seeming to know what was coming.
Unless we’re launching them into the box, like a corner, is there really much opportunity to create chances? That quick one vs Pompey springs to mind.
Aren’t they mostly just about ensuring we retain possession?
 
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thekidfromstrettoncamp

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  • Jan 10, 2021
  • #22
I find that anything like a throwin should be an advantage and things like this and freekicks the referees should book anyone who does not immeadiatly retreat 10 yards or throws the ball away just to give their side a chance to organise (advantage lost). As for our throw ins them corners and free kicks we seem to be very unimaginative i do wonder sometimes what goes on in training.
 
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