Same, calling them prostitutes.The social services are shown in a bad light.
They are abused children regardless how streetwise they are.
I'm in shock having just watched it.
what was it about? grooming gangs? the rochdale one?
sickening. the guys should be locked up. and investigation needs to be done into why some communities can not intergrate and see others as trash whilst communities from same part of world have no problem being british.
also and this will probably offend some i think its ridiculous that parents are not held accountable for the kids that become victims. such shit parenting in this country. you see these girls all time walking around cov, they might not be being groomed but any parent that lets their kids dress like that and speak like a dumbass need looking at. these kids are going nowhere in life, if they aint groomed they will just be parents themselves by age 16 and contribute to broken britain.
just my 2 cents.
And guess what would have happened then, you'd have been the one locked up.The dad on it (Paul Kaye) was knocking a door trying to get his daughter, I'd have kicked it down and windmilled everybody and anybody who came near me.
And guess what would have happened then, you'd have been the one locked up.
The most shocking part was when that nurse went in with a huge folder of evidence and police, social services etc all basically shrugged their shoulders and said nothing to do with them.
Yep it was about that.
While I understand the parent responsibility bit, it really doesn't warrant what happened to the poor girls by middle aged men. The dad on it (Paul Kaye) was knocking a door trying to get his daughter, I'd have kicked it down and windmilled everybody and anybody who came near me. Not to mention the people who were doing it that would vanish off the face of the earth.
oh in no way whatsoever does it warrant what happened.
i just think when a young kid can be "plyed" by drinks and drugs then it has alot to do with shit parenting. my sisters never would have let that happen to them,you know whats right and whats wrong from an early age if you have good upbringing.
but blame wise clearly the gang are top of list.
vulnerable bcause of their parents.
and sad thing is lots more vulnerable in todays generation than there was ours
Yeah it will be on iPlayer and on again tonight.
There was a girl who seemed to be "the boss" who bossed the others about. She was pressuring the other girls etc.
white girl? maybe she got a cut. maybe she felt she was in love with one of the gang.
once again probably not come from a good household.
They all thought they were loved etc.
Not sure why you are trying to push the household so much, there are taxi drivers picking them up from school with a bottle of vodka ready to go and threatening them if they didn't go with them.
iam just curious
whya re they getting into a taxi from school? why are there parents not picking them up?
why are they drinking the vodka?
why after the first time would they not be vigilant enough to make sure never happens again rather than fall in love?
can look at it like its black and white but nothing will change that way, need to look at all factors that caused this to stop it happening again
Because they are 15 / 16? They are being threatened by the men and are scared?
Going a bit of your way here to push the blame elsewhere. It's strange.
i was wondering how long it would take you to break down. you cannot hold a conversation.strange
as you will see from my previous posts i have said blame rests squarely on the rapists. i simply think there is a big issue with how easy it was for them. and i would like more of a spotlight shone on that aswell to stop it happening.
i am indian,not pakistani. not that it matters. but making it clear i am not defending anyone of any colour for disgusting crime like this. just genuinly interested in how something like this can go on for so long without antyhing happening and whilst the social services and police need to be looked into so does british society as a whole.
hope that clears it up for you.
Break down what? The fact that as they put it "tie bags on their heads while 4 men shag them up the arse" is a bit more of a worry than why they are getting into a car with a man who is threatening them.
How it got hidden away for so long does need looking into it, but you mention british society needs looking into but why not the society / culture of the people doing it?
People got away with it because people skirted around the race issue too much.
Interesting debate here guys, and I'm glad this is being highlighted now.
I've been watching the unfolding of grooming gangs with a close eye for a while now and it's finally getting exposed. Now, it does seem that the whole world is run by child abusers these days (remember the BBC scandal), but there is certainly an issue with muslim grooming gangs in many areas in the UK.
It's going on everywhere, and as Nick says, they have skirted the issue for too long because they were scared to be called racist. The sad thing is, it's a fact this is going on. Every few days there is a court case around the UK with groups of men in the dock.
I almost don't want to say it because it'll trigger a lot of people on here, but at the moment Tommy Robinson is doing a lot of work for Rebel Media, effectively going around the country and exposing these gangs and confronting them outside the courts. Don't shoot the messenger, but just go and watch some of the videos, it's fucking incredible how their girlfriends and family defend them so strongly.
tommy robinson is becoming a bit of cult hero amongst sikh community as they see him as exposing bad element of other communties. and he pays lip service to sikh community too.
i still dont trust him though, he is just a very smart nazi . does come accross as likeable in certain videos though i must admit and he will be hitting a nerve with youth of today too.
i want to see these closed off communties stop. its only way to stop grooming gangs and also stop right wing opposition spiralling into far right.
BBC 1 at 9pm, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday this week.
Each episode focuses on one of the three girls so if you watch them all you may see what parental supervision occurred (and therefore debate how much, "Where were the parents?" Is valid.
FWIW as a parent and a teacher of kids this age I think it is obvious that poor parenting contributes to this kind of vulnerability but so do many other factors, including poverty. How many parents know where their 13,14,15 year olds are, right now? The little beggars fib, evade and cover for each other. Many parents have little clue what their kids are doing online and in person. It takes a village to raise a child. As a society we need to look after our kids better but also everyone else's kids too. Too many people turned a blind eye in this case and it keeps happening.
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