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Godiva

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #36
Nick said:
It does all fit in place.

I wonder if there was any promise of fan ownership involved???
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Hoffman is a fan ...
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #37
I wonder if they are meeting up to discuss the protest at the Wasps game today, that would be ironic wouldn't it

Edit, I shouldn't really joke as there are a fair few #sisuout warriers on Twitter going mad for wasps today! :laugh:
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #38
Nick said:
I wonder who these consortiums are?
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If there's anyone serious about taking us over the best way to get the fans onside is make it public, show they are serious and have a plan that could see the club be successful. There's been too much of we know someone who will take us over through recent years.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #39
chiefdave said:
If there's anyone serious about taking us over the best way to get the fans onside is make it public, show they are serious and have a plan that could see the club be successful. There's been too much of we know someone who will take us over through recent years.
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Exactly. Get the fans behind them.

I'd happily support getting SISU out if there was somebody there properly rather than "my mate said this rich businessman will buy us out" or "we want sisu to give the club for free to the fans".
 
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Godiva

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #40
chiefdave said:
If there's anyone serious about taking us over the best way to get the fans onside is make it public, show they are serious and have a plan that could see the club be successful. There's been too much of we know someone who will take us over through recent years.
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We accuse sisu of being secretive and non-communicating. Interesting that we shall support a potential owner who won't relieve his identity, his motives or his plans.
 

Bennets Afro

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #41
I'm happy to protest against SISU if new owners can show how they are going to generate more income then the match day revenue we currently receive.
Any new owner will have to buy into ACL or build a new stadium. I think it s that simple!
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #42
As with the new stadium, actions speak louder than words, so if it's Hoff then why not come out and say something?

Godiva said:
We accuse sisu of being secretive and non-communicating. Interesting that we shall support a potential owner who won't relieve his identity, his motives or his plans.
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Ian1779

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #43
Godiva said:
Hoffman & Elliott most likely at it again.
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Maybe he's managed to invest his £1 wisely and now has £2.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #44
Godiva said:
Hoffman is a fan ...
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Hoffman is a white Dhinsa....
 

Astute

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #45
Nick said:
If there is a red card on the seat I'll hold it up when everybody else does as it is hardly going to break my back is it. No pitch invasions or anything, I will have a 5 year old with me and unlike the absolute prick behind us the other week who was teaching his kid how to say the C word, I'm not really into anything too drastic.
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I taught my little lad the four letter C word. He now shouts City as loud as he can.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #46
Thinking about it there's only 2 options really.

1) someone has already made a bid and has been rejected by SISU. why not make that public, at least then we know someone is interested and can evaluate if they are a better option than SISU (shouldn't be too hard!) and if the offer they made was fair

2) a bid hasn't been made. the question there has to be why not, if anyone seriously wanted to take the club over wouldn't they put a bid in?
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #47
My lad too. I'm so ashamed!

Astute said:
I taught my little lad the four letter C word. He now shouts City as loud as he can.
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Astute

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #48
torchomatic said:
My lad too. I'm so ashamed!
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I'm not. Out of my lads the eldest two support Motherwell and Grimsby. The other one doesn't like football. Makes our club look like a good decision
 

Astute

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #49
chiefdave said:
2) a bid hasn't been made. the question there has to be why not, if anyone seriously wanted to take the club over wouldn't they put a bid in?
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Sounds like the debacle of SISU and the Ricoh.......
 

torchomatic

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #50
MY lad has set phrases, usually "Come on City!", "Forward" and "Rubbish".

Astute said:
I'm not. Out of my lads the eldest two support Motherwell and Grimsby. The other one doesn't like football. Makes our club look like a good decision
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #51
nick said:
if there is a red card on the seat i'll hold it up when everybody else does as it is hardly going to break my back is it. No pitch invasions or anything, i will have a 5 year old with me and unlike the absolute prick behind us the other week who was teaching his kid how to say the c word, i'm not really into anything too drastic.
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ffs ........
 

Astute

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #52
torchomatic said:
MY lad has set phrases, usually "Come on City!", "Forward" and "Rubbish".
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Like father like son? :claping hands:
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #53
So here we go again...more protest aimed at our football club. You may say SISU but the protest will be seen my many as just fans being unhappy at how the club is currently situated.

At a time when SISU have stated they will inform more and set out a decent plan for the club you rather believe we are buyable by other investors who will magically make everything OK again?
You are all a bunch of dreamers.

We are on a decent sequence of results and we need to concentrate on the positives and get behind the team now and try to effect what happens on the pitch by doing so. Then and only then when we improve consistently and achieve success i.e. a promotion, will we be a buyable club again.

For now I'm just glad we still have a football club to watch quite frankly. I'm a SISU detractor myself but I have to still be grateful they have not thrown in the towel. They are doing what any other owner would try and do right now to make us viable and eventually sellable, so what's your problem? No amount of protest against them will change their needed plan to the exit door when they are able.

The council undoubtedly shit on them and consequently our football club. SISU's backs are to the wall and protest will not help anyone.
Having a dialogue with them would be a far better idea than a dumb protest that simply adds to the sense of darkness over our club.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #54
Paxman II said:
So here we go again...more protest aimed at our football club. You may say SISU but the protest will be seen my many as just fans being unhappy at how the club is currently situated.

At a time when SISU have stated they will inform more and set out a decent plan for the club you rather believe we are buyable by other investors who will magically make everything OK again?
You are all a bunch of dreamers.

We are on a decent sequence of results and we need to concentrate on the positives and get behind the team now and try to effect what happens on the pitch by doing so. Then and only then when we improve consistently and achieve success i.e. a promotion, will we be a buyable club again.

For now I'm just glad we still have a football club to watch quite frankly. I'm a SISU detractor myself but I have to still be grateful they have not thrown in the towel. They are doing what any other owner would try and do right now to make us viable and eventually sellable, so what's your problem? No amount of protest against them will change their needed plan to the exit door when they are able.

The council undoubtedly shit on them and consequently our football club. SISU's backs are to the wall and protest will not help anyone.
Having a dialogue with them would be a far better idea than a dumb protest that simply adds to the sense of darkness over our club.
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So are you saying that no protests whatsoever should be aimed at SISU as it is aimed at our club?

I suppose that we should let SISU do whatever they like and just take it on the chin. They have previously said that they will inform us more on what is going on. Nothing come from it last time.

CCC shit on SISU? Our football clubs future maybe. But SISU brought most of it upon themselves.

Have a dialogue with them? So why would this suddenly work after 7 years of getting ignored?
 

Paxman II

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #55
Astute said:
So are you saying that no protests whatsoever should be aimed at SISU as it is aimed at our club?

I suppose that we should let SISU do whatever they like and just take it on the chin. They have previously said that they will inform us more on what is going on. Nothing come from it last time.

CCC shit on SISU? Our football clubs future maybe. But SISU brought most of it upon themselves.

Have a dialogue with them? So why would this suddenly work after 7 years of getting ignored?
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But that's one of the issues isn't it? You are speaking in the past tense and relating it all to the future. When does this attitude stop and we start believing we can get better under SISU as much as any other potential ghost owners? We need to be realistic.
What would you have SISU do exactly given the position they are in?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #56
Paxman II said:
But that's one of the issues isn't it? You are speaking in the past tense and relating it all to the future. When does this attitude stop and we start believing we can get better under SISU as much as any other potential ghost owners? We need to be realistic.
What would you have SISU do exactly given the position they are in?
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Respect is earned.

I will start to think things can get better with SISU when they change. Their top priority seems to be litigation. We seem to be their bottom priority. I, like the vast majority of our supporters, do not trust them to do what is best for our football club. And until I see some sort of change I will not trust them.
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #57
torchomatic said:
Who wrote that, Nick? Another blinkered protest. Not a word about Wasps and their relentless emblazoning of rugby club logos and how they got there.
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I can confirm tat there were no protests today we just enjoyed ourselves.
 

Paxman II

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #58
As I asked Astute, what change do you want SISU to do that makes you happier and believe things as a consequence of such change things will be much better?

I think they are fully entitled to bring legal action over what was a debateable state aid of ACL. Did you want them to continue paying 1.2m a year in rent for a pitch one a fortnight? Just what is it you would do if you were the owner of our football club?
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #59
torchomatic said:
Who wrote that, Nick? Another blinkered protest. Not a word about Wasps and their relentless emblazoning of rugby club logos and how they got there.
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Lets see if the likes of you and Nick can actually do what I have highlighted. I remember you's harping on about people constantly talking about Sisu (at least they own us so we should be talking about them).
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #60
The Gentleman said:
Lets see if the likes of you and Nick can actually do what I have highlighted. I remember you's harping on about people constantly talking about Sisu (at least they own us so we should be talking about them).
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It's ok though, me and Torchy didn't have a spine or morals. It was only the people who boycotted sixfields who had a spine or morals so I will leave that to them as their spine and morals are now shining through (apart from a selection of strong spined people with morals who have been consistent)

Pretty sure 99% of people don't have an issue with Wasps as a club, moreso the city fans with the morals that loved to tell everybody about them who are now going mad for Wasps
 

Astute

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #61
Paxman II said:
As I asked Astute, what change do you want SISU to do that makes you happier and believe things as a consequence of such change things will be much better?

I think they are fully entitled to bring legal action over what was a debateable state aid of ACL. Did you want them to continue paying 1.2m a year in rent for a pitch one a fortnight? Just what is it you would do if you were the owner of our football club?
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And I suppose you will say that they were right to keep up with the litigation after losing the JR so badly?

They could have had rented for over 1m a year less. They didn't take the offer. What is your excuse for this?

I would put the money being wasted in litigation into the football club instead of into the pockets of their legal team. Wouldn't you?
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #62
Nick said:
It's ok though, me and Torchy didn't have a spine or morals. It was only the people who boycotted sixfields who had a spine or morals so I will leave that to them as their spine and morals are now shining through (apart from a selection of strong spined people with morals who have been consistent)

Pretty sure 99% of people don't have an issue with Wasps as a club, moreso the city fans with the morals that loved to tell everybody about them who are now going mad for Wasps
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Glad you got your protective paragraph in at the end to remind us all you're joking, it seems to be used quite a lot on this thread.

I think most people you refer to seemed to say so what if you go to sixfields (I certainly did) but you seem to have a bee in your little hat about sixfields and going, so not sure why you keep bringing it back to that but seem happy for people to get slated on here who go, there have been plenty of posts calling people hypocrite, is that just a posh word for scab? oh shit, here you go
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #63
Paxman II said:
So here we go again...more protest aimed at our football club. You may say SISU but the protest will be seen my many as just fans being unhappy at how the club is currently situated.

At a time when SISU have stated they will inform more and set out a decent plan for the club you rather believe we are buyable by other investors who will magically make everything OK again?
You are all a bunch of dreamers.

We are on a decent sequence of results and we need to concentrate on the positives and get behind the team now and try to effect what happens on the pitch by doing so. Then and only then when we improve consistently and achieve success i.e. a promotion, will we be a buyable club again.

For now I'm just glad we still have a football club to watch quite frankly. I'm a SISU detractor myself but I have to still be grateful they have not thrown in the towel. They are doing what any other owner would try and do right now to make us viable and eventually sellable, so what's your problem? No amount of protest against them will change their needed plan to the exit door when they are able.

The council undoubtedly shit on them and consequently our football club. SISU's backs are to the wall and protest will not help anyone.
Having a dialogue with them would be a far better idea than a dumb protest that simply adds to the sense of darkness over our club.
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I think you will find they have thrown In the towel we now have the Incompetent Fisher heading us up

God help us he has to go .

We may then see gates Increase and the Local business community willing to Invest through Corporates ,sponsorships and Investment through share Issues .

Just might remove fishers Glass ceiling on us not being able to survive a Promotion .

There has to be a Stake In return for Investment sought ,It will not come with him at the Helm IMO.
 
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The Gentleman

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #64
Paxman II said:
So here we go again...more protest aimed at our football club. You may say SISU but the protest will be seen my many as just fans being unhappy at how the club is currently situated.

At a time when SISU have stated they will inform more and set out a decent plan for the club you rather believe we are buyable by other investors who will magically make everything OK again?
You are all a bunch of dreamers.

We are on a decent sequence of results and we need to concentrate on the positives and get behind the team now and try to effect what happens on the pitch by doing so. Then and only then when we improve consistently and achieve success i.e. a promotion, will we be a buyable club again.

For now I'm just glad we still have a football club to watch quite frankly. I'm a SISU detractor myself but I have to still be grateful they have not thrown in the towel. They are doing what any other owner would try and do right now to make us viable and eventually sellable, so what's your problem? No amount of protest against them will change their needed plan to the exit door when they are able.

The council undoubtedly shit on them and consequently our football club. SISU's backs are to the wall and protest will not help anyone.
Having a dialogue with them would be a far better idea than a dumb protest that simply adds to the sense of darkness over our club.
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They are going to inform us more, never heard that one before, oh wait, we have. Doesn't that tired old line come out every year from Sisu, "we need to communicate more with the fans". How many times do you think they will need to say it before people like you actually twig to the fact they don't give a fuck about us fans, never have and never will. Nearly forgot the 'plan'. Reminds me a lot of Joy's 'vision' in the interview she gave before last January's transfer window, remind me again how that plan went.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #65
The Gentleman said:
Glad you got your protective paragraph in at the end to remind us all you're joking, it seems to be used quite a lot on this thread.

I think most people you refer to seemed to say so what if you go to sixfields (I certainly did) but you seem to have a bee in your little hat about sixfields and going, so not sure why you keep bringing it back to that but seem happy for people to get slated on here who go, there have been plenty of posts calling people hypocrite, is that just a posh word for scab? oh shit, here you go
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No, it is just me saying that it is not EVERY person who was against clubs being moving who is now going to Wasps games as it isn't everybody is it?
 
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The Gentleman

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  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #66
Paxman II said:
As I asked Astute, what change do you want SISU to do that makes you happier and believe things as a consequence of such change things will be much better?

I think they are fully entitled to bring legal action over what was a debateable state aid of ACL. Did you want them to continue paying 1.2m a year in rent for a pitch one a fortnight? Just what is it you would do if you were the owner of our football club?
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Would they have still been paying that if they would have saw through the deal that was brokered before they decided to leave?

What I would if I was buying a club is due diligence, renegotiate a rental deal to start then when I broker a deal to buy into said club, see it through, I would keep the fans in the picture and what is actually happening and not bullshit them, I wouldn't try and sue everybody I could just because I don't get my own way, I wouldn't move the club miles away from it's home and fanbase and thus alienating most of it. I wouldn't keep talking about a new stadium when they have no news about it. I would employ people in the club who actually have an idea on how to run a football club aswell as a business. That's just a few things but I think you get my drift and nice to see you got your 'but I don't like them disclaimer in'
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #67
The Gentleman said:
Would they have still been paying that if they would have saw through the deal that was brokered before they decided to leave?
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They would after 3 years....
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #68
Nick said:
No, it is just me saying that it is not EVERY person who was against clubs being moving who is now going to Wasps games as it isn't everybody is it?
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Just as it wasn't EVERY person who was against City moving to Northampton or even out of Coventry all together.
Funny that the same people now scream and shout about the Wasps relocating
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #69
letsallsingtogether said:
Just as it wasn't EVERY person who was against City moving to Northampton or even out of Coventry all together.
Funny that the same people now scream and shout about the Wasps relocating
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As I have said many times, if we had moved to Northampton or even Hinckley full time Id have been out....
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2015
  • #70
I'm minded to think that taking the £400k deal would have led to the failure of ACL further along the line and achieved the desired outcome
 
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