This is truly horrendous (1 Viewer)

Otis · Jan 18, 2022

I can't begin to imagine what that would be like to live as a slave in a tiny shed for 40 years.

BBC News - Carlisle man admits modern slavery of victim kept in shed

Carlisle man admits modern slavery of victim kept in shed

Peter Swailes admits a slavery charge after the man had to live in the outbuilding for decades.

www.bbc.co.uk

Can't buy this "limited involvement line." Sounds very, very iffy.

Robccfc87 · Jan 18, 2022

Not meaning to sound uncaring as it’s obviously a horrific ordeal but, looking at the pic, how did he not break out?

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 18, 2022

Otis said:
I can't begin to imagine what that would be like to live as a slave in a tiny shed for 40 years.

BBC News - Carlisle man admits modern slavery of victim kept in shed

Carlisle man admits modern slavery of victim kept in shed

Peter Swailes admits a slavery charge after the man had to live in the outbuilding for decades.

www.bbc.co.uk

Can't buy this "limited involvement line." Sounds very, very iffy.

Totally agree. Modern slavery is about as bad a crime as possible in my view.

Otis · Jan 18, 2022

Robccfc87 said:
Not meaning to sound uncaring as it’s obviously a horrific ordeal but, looking at the pic, how did he not break out?

I can only assume this guy was both new to these shores and scared and probably of a low IQ. Undoubtedly he would have any ID documents and passports taken off him.

These sorts of people use threats and intimidation tactics to keep people in line. Been many such cases unfortunately over the years.

Robccfc87 · Jan 18, 2022

Otis said:
I can only assume this guy was both new to these shores and scared and probably of a low IQ. Undoubtedly he would have any ID documents and passports taken off him.

These sorts of people use threats and intimidation tactics to keep people in line. Been many such cases unfortunately over the years.

I’m sure you’re right, it’s so hard to fathom out the mental impact on the victims in these scenarios. Feel dreadfully sorry for the chap.

fernandopartridge · Jan 18, 2022

Robccfc87 said:
Not meaning to sound uncaring as it’s obviously a horrific ordeal but, looking at the pic, how did he not break out?

He was a simple person, he may not have even realised the extent to which he was being exploited.

fernandopartridge · Jan 18, 2022

Otis said:
I can only assume this guy was both new to these shores and scared and probably of a low IQ. Undoubtedly he would have any ID documents and passports taken off him.

These sorts of people use threats and intimidation tactics to keep people in line. Been many such cases unfortunately over the years.

The victim was British according to earlier stories

Otis · Jan 19, 2022

fernandopartridge said:
The victim was British according to earlier stories

Okay. Only 16 though and most certainly vulnerable. It's totally disgusting whatever his background.

Mcbean · Jan 19, 2022

Pet northerner been around for years

Nick · Jan 20, 2022

They have pretty much taken the poor bloke's life for their own financial gain to make him work. Horrible cunts.

PVA · Jan 20, 2022

I saw something very similar to this on a documentary last year. Some poor bloke was living in a hut in some woods because he was on the run from people traffickers.

He was 'only' there for 4 years I think which is awful, 40 years is just incomprehensible. Poor chap.

Ccfcisparks · Jan 20, 2022

PVA said:
I saw something very similar to this on a documentary last year. Some poor bloke was living in a hut in some woods because he was on the run from people traffickers.

He was 'only' there for 4 years I think which is awful, 40 years is just incomprehensible. Poor chap.

Think that was 24 hours in police custody wasn't it? Vaguely remember watching it.

PVA · Jan 20, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Think that was 24 hours in police custody wasn't it? Vaguely remember watching it.

Yeah that does ring a bell actually, I think you're right!

Otis · Jan 20, 2022

It was.

chiefdave · Jan 20, 2022

Nick said:
They have pretty much taken the poor bloke's life for their own financial gain to make him work. Horrible cunts.

This is obviously an extreme case of modern slavery but I think some people might be surprised how many similarities there are between this and working conditions in some places that are perfectly legal.

My company used to do some work for a chain of luxury hotels, we're talking £400 and up a night. The hotels were properly in the middle of nowhere and inaccessible by public transports. The minimum wage positions, service, cleaning etc, were pretty much exclusively Eastern Europeans. They lived on site, for which a deduction was made from their minimum wage pay, in appalling conditions - it was so bad that eventually I refused to do any work there as I felt there was a health risk. Their meals were leftovers from the hotel restaurants as there were provided with no cooking facilities, again a deduction made from their pay. Their hours were all over the place, as they were permanently on site it was basically work on demand for as little as an hour at a time as required but that could be any time of the day or night.

And people wonder why we're having issues filling those sort of positions now. If anyone on here went to drop one of their kids off to work at somewhere like that you'd have them straight back in the car and out of there as quickly as possible.

Nick · Jan 20, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Think that was 24 hours in police custody wasn't it? Vaguely remember watching it.

Yeah it was 24 hours in police custody. His family thought he was missing.

I wonder if anybody has reported this bloke missing years ago and he has a family to go back to?

stay_up_skyblues · Jan 20, 2022

chiefdave said:
This is obviously an extreme case of modern slavery but I think some people might be surprised how many similarities there are between this and working conditions in some places that are perfectly legal.

My company used to do some work for a chain of luxury hotels, we're talking £400 and up a night. The hotels were properly in the middle of nowhere and inaccessible by public transports. The minimum wage positions, service, cleaning etc, were pretty much exclusively Eastern Europeans. They lived on site, for which a deduction was made from their minimum wage pay, in appalling conditions - it was so bad that eventually I refused to do any work there as I felt there was a health risk. Their meals were leftovers from the hotel restaurants as there were provided with no cooking facilities, again a deduction made from their pay. Their hours were all over the place, as they were permanently on site it was basically work on demand for as little as an hour at a time as required but that could be any time of the day or night.

And people wonder why we're having issues filling those sort of positions now. If anyone on here went to drop one of their kids off to work at somewhere like that you'd have them straight back in the car and out of there as quickly as possible.

Not too dissimilar to a fruit growing place I went to a few years ago for a meeting. Middle of nowhere. Endless rows of dilapidated caravans that the (Romanian?) workers lived in throughout the season. 12 - 14 hours hours a day picking fruit. Granted I don’t know what they were being paid and nothing to suggest it wasn’t above board. But the digs looked like shit and there were no cars in sight.

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 20, 2022

Ccfcisparks said:
Think that was 24 hours in police custody wasn't it? Vaguely remember watching it.

Eastern European guy wasn't it? That was such a sad programme.

LastGarrison · Jan 20, 2022

Deleted member 9744 said:
Eastern European guy wasn't it? That was such a sad programme.

Lithuanian.

So Northern European.

Deleted member 9744 · Jan 21, 2022

LastGarrison said:
Lithuanian.

So Northern European.

I'd say Lithuania is at least as Eastern as it is Northern in terms of Europe but it's not a hill i am prepared to die on on a football forum.

no_loyalty · Feb 4, 2022

Carlisle modern slavery boss given suspended sentence

Peter Swailes admitted the slavery charge after a disabled man was exploited for decades.

www.bbc.co.uk

xcraigx · Feb 4, 2022

no_loyalty said:
Carlisle modern slavery boss given suspended sentence

Peter Swailes admitted the slavery charge after a disabled man was exploited for decades.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's not particularly shocking any more when some vile piece of shit gets a suspended sentence but wow. Just wow.

chiefdave · Feb 4, 2022

That will serve as a great deterrent to anyone else involved in this sort of appalling treatment of the vulnerable.

no_loyalty · Feb 4, 2022

xcraigx said:
It's not particularly shocking any more when some vile piece of shit gets a suspended sentence but wow. Just wow.

I thought he would get a minimum of 10 years, but that just takes the piss.

Houchens Head · Feb 4, 2022

I was expecting at the very least, a 5 year sentence. What's he got? A bloody bender! And only 9 months for 2 years! Jeez H Christ! This country's judiciary system is an absolute piss take! It's no wonder criminals laugh at the law!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Feb 4, 2022

Houchens Head said:
I was expecting at the very least, a 5 year sentence. What's he got? A bloody bender! And only 9 months for 2 years! Jeez H Christ! This country's judiciary system is an absolute piss take! It's no wonder criminals laugh at the law!

But they want ten year sentences for protesting...

stay_up_skyblues · Feb 10, 2022

Sentence to be reviewed, as should the position of the judge that handed it down.

Man who exploited 'shed slave' to have sentence examined after MP raises case

A MAN who avoided jail after exploiting a vulnerable victim found living in a squalid shed is to have his sentence examined by the Attorney General’s Office.

uk.yahoo.com

SBT · Feb 10, 2022

Supposedly the judge was at pains to point out that this guy was not the main perpetrator (that was his father, who is already dead), that he wasn’t directly responsible for this guy being enslaved, and that the media coverage should reflect that he was being sentenced as such. Doesn’t seem like that happened.

Swailes, Sentencing Remarks 4 February 2022 – CrimeLine

crimeline.co.uk

I have very little sympathy for the guy regardless, but I also have very little faith in this AG intervening on individual cases after political pressure.

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