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This could change the game completely couldn't it (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Nov 28, 2022
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Otis

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  • Nov 28, 2022
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BBC News - Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Professional clubs told to limit training exercises with repetitive heading to one session per week.
www.bbc.co.uk

Thin end of the wedge?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #2
Otis said:
BBC News - Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Professional clubs told to limit training exercises with repetitive heading to one session per week.
www.bbc.co.uk

Thin end of the wedge?
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It’s good creative problem solving. I do wonder if it’s possible to reduce the use of the head rather than stop it altogether. This suggests that it might be.
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 28, 2022
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Sky Blue Pete said:
It’s good creative problem solving. I do wonder if it’s possible to reduce the use of the head rather than stop it altogether. This suggests that it might be.
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Yup. They could also make it that you can only head the ball if it goes over shoulder height too.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Nov 28, 2022
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Otis said:
Yup. They could also make it that you can only head the ball if it goes over shoulder height too.
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Would every teams players need to be the same height then?
 
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Nick

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  • Nov 28, 2022
  • #5
I know a lot of older players are having issues from heading but aren't the balls used now completely different?

Only one session a week with heading involved? Not much time for set pieces etc.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 29, 2022
  • #6
olderskyblue said:
Would every teams players need to be the same height then?
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olderskyblue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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shmmeee said:
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Remember as a kid, there was a ”sudden” spate of all us kids having stilts. There was a Wood yard not far away and they made them for sixpence
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #8
Otis said:
BBC News - Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Scottish football to ban heading the day before and after matches

Professional clubs told to limit training exercises with repetitive heading to one session per week.
www.bbc.co.uk

Thin end of the wedge?
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Yes, it could. If it's accepted that heading the ball causes neurological problems later in life, I can't understand why it isn't banned. If they don't ban it, aren't the authorities leaving themselves open to legal action? I'm not advocating a ban, especially as Nick pointed out the fact that modern balls are very different to those used back in the day. Presumably research is ongoing.

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Mcbean

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #9
Would improve if they stopped drinking Buckfast and eating deep fried mars bars
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #10
Problem is those asking with dementia or similar now are people who played a very different game with much harder balls. I don’t know what research there can be on younger players playing with modern balls, but if that shows risks then as long as players are informed of those risks then let them do what they want IMO.
 

Nick

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #11


Heading one of those is miles away from the footballs now.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #12
shmmeee said:
Problem is those asking with dementia or similar now are people who played a very different game with much harder balls. I don’t know what research there can be on younger players playing with modern balls, but if that shows risks then as long as players are informed of those risks then let them do what they want IMO.
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I take your point, but even if players are fully informed of the risks, would
that legally absolve the game's authorities?

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shmmeee

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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itsabuzzard said:
I take your point, but even if players are fully informed of the risks, would
that legally absolve the game's authorities?

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I should think so. Obviously depending on how informed informed is. But where do you stop with this stuff? Make every sport non-contact ultimately? Make headers illegal? I’d be more worried about Rugby and American Football and martial arts, ultimately if people want to take those risk then why should we stop them?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #14
shmmeee said:
I’d be more worried about Rugby and American Football and martial arts, ultimately if people want to take those risk then why should we stop them?
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not sure how they can say heading the ball has to stop but just crack on with rugby
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #15
Nick said:


Heading one of those is miles away from the footballs now.
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There was a study done by ballistics experts that concluded heading modern balls isnt much safer than heading one of those coconuts

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Modern footballs 'not much safer'
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #16
chiefdave said:
not sure how they can say heading the ball has to stop but just crack on with rugby
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And, of course, boxing.

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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #17
clint van damme said:
There was a study done by ballistics experts that concluded heading modern balls isnt much safer than heading one of those coconuts

BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Modern footballs 'not much safer'
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Sobering reading.

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clint van damme

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #18
itsabuzzard said:
Sobering reading.

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Film should be great. I'm thinking the fella who plays Paddy in Emmerdale as the lead.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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clint van damme said:
Film should be great. I'm thinking the fella who plays Paddy in Emmerdale as the lead.
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Heading ten bags of coal? Have we got our threads crossed?

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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chiefdave said:
not sure how they can say heading the ball has to stop but just crack on with rugby
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Your bollocks are at greater risk than your head there.
 

clint van damme

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #21
itsabuzzard said:
Heading ten bags of coal? Have we got our threads crossed?

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What a clown! Not sure howI managed that
 
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JAM See

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #22
I really don't have a problem with banning the use of the head to propel the ball.

The clue is in the name of the sport.

I believe it would actually make the game more skillful in the medium/long term.

The transition would be really difficult though.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #23
chiefdave said:
not sure how they can say heading the ball has to stop but just crack on with rugby
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They're not just cracking on in boxing or rugby, both sports looking at initiatives to reduce harm.
Rugby already has concussion subs, football behind the curve on this one.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #24
clint van damme said:
What a clown! Not sure howI managed that
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Heading ten bags of coal.

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itsabuzzard

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #25
JAM See said:
I really don't have a problem with banning the use of the head to propel the ball.

The clue is in the name of the sport.

I believe it would actually make the game more skillful in the medium/long term.

The transition would be really difficult though.
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Would be an interesting trial. We have a head height rule playing five a side, v which effectively rules out heading. It's a much better game.

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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itsabuzzard said:
Would be an interesting trial. We have a head height rule playing five a side, v which effectively rules out heading. It's a much better game.

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Not sure I agree. Been some fantastic headed goals this World Cup alone.
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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Brighton Sky Blue

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JAM See said:
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Maybe he’d have installed better gravity
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 30, 2022
  • #29
shmmeee said:
I should think so. Obviously depending on how informed informed is. But where do you stop with this stuff? Make every sport non-contact ultimately? Make headers illegal? I’d be more worried about Rugby and American Football and martial arts, ultimately if people want to take those risk then why should we stop them?
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Specialist insurance for it?

Though would we be getting cases in a few decades of ex-pro's WAG's beating them around the head with handbags in their sleep to claim the payout?
 

JAM See

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  • Nov 30, 2022
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Specialist insurance for it?

Though would we be getting cases in a few decades of ex-pro's WAG's beating them around the head with handbags in their sleep to claim the payout?
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I'm happy to be cast as much a sexist as the next man.

But really?

Have a word with yerself.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 1, 2022
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JAM See said:
I'm happy to be cast as much a sexist as the next man.

But really?

Have a word with yerself.
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itsabuzzard

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  • Dec 1, 2022
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
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Nick

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #33
There's no chance they could bring in the head height rule in actual football. Madness.
 
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