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The Y-Word (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Coventry La La La
  • Start date Apr 14, 2011
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Coventry La La La

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  • Apr 14, 2011
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[video=youtube;RIvJC1_hKt8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvJC1_hKt8&feature=player_embedded#at=45[/video]

England's Frank Lampard is among Premier League stars spearheading a campaign to rid English football of anti-Semitism.

The Chelsea midfielder has joined Tottenham's Ledley King and Arsenal's Kieran Gibbs in a film, written and produced by David and Ivor Baddiel, which tackles anti-Jewish abuse.

The Kick It Out campaign is behind the new initiative which targets chants of 'Yiddo' by Tottenham fans, many of whom are Jewish themselves.

Lampard, in the video message being sent out to clubs, said: "For some reason some fans still shout the Y-word. Some might think it's just a bit of a laugh, but racist chanting is against the law.

"It's against the law to call someone the Y-word on the street."

Match of the Day presenter Gary Lineker, who used to play for Tottenham, also appears in the one-minute film, which has the backing of the FA and the PFA and features a clip of fans hissing: 'Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz, Hitler's going to gas them again.'

David Baddiel, the television comedian and novelist whose mother Sarah was a refugee from Nazi Germany, said: "The film is not intended to censor football fans.

"It's simply to raise awareness that the Y-word is - and has been for many, many years - a race hate word.

"It's our belief that some football fans may not even realise this, and the film is designed therefore to inform and raise debate."

Tottenham executive director, Donna Cullen, said: "It is unthinkable and wholly unacceptable that, in this day and age, supporters are subjected to anti-Semitic abuse such as hissing to imitate the gas chambers used during the Holocaust in the Second World War.

"We are committed to eliminating all forms of racism and we shall support efforts to kick anti-Semitism out of the game."
 

bamalamafizzfazz

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #2
This is an interesting article la la la, what are your thoughts on the whole thing?
 

Cobi Jones's Dreads

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #3
Bit OTT that!
 

Coventry La La La

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #4
I had never heard the "Y-Word" before I read this article.

Just found it interesting, hopefully they stop chanting it.
 

Disorganised1

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #5
Yid is short for Yiddish, and it used to be used a lot, Kike was also used as an anti-semetic abuse.
 

Nick

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #6
Is it ok for spurs to call themselves the "yid" army still?
 

Coventry La La La

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  • Apr 14, 2011
  • #7
Nick said:
Is it ok for spurs to call themselves the "yid" army still?
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I don't think so after watching that video.. :thinking about:
 

bamalamafizzfazz

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  • Apr 14, 2011
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Carl Baker I agree, yes technically its is racist but the Tottenham fans sing it about themselves. It is no secret that a large percentage of Spurs fans are Jewish as there is a large jewish community in north London and instead of being intimidated by a word they use it to take away the negative power it holds. There are a number of 'offensively racist' words that have been sensationalised and eventually withdrawn from language and will be forgotten even though they are part of history. I also particularly get annoyed by incidents where some people are 'allowed' to use certain words where as others aren't such as the 'N' word. What do you think? Am I speaking out of turn?
 
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Pigeon

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  • Apr 14, 2011
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Interesting video, wasn't really aware that it was a big problem within football. It's obviously a very sensitive topic and having been to Auschwitz and teaching lessons of the history of anti-Semitic incidents Id like to see chants like that stopped.
 

Jimthor

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  • Apr 14, 2011
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I thought for the Spurs fans it'd evolved far past being a particuarly racial thing, i didn't even realise anybody still considered it in that light. I know quite a few Spurs fans who often type "YIDS!" on the end of their facebook statuses etc when talking about Spurs. From what i understand it's just become a standard chant / nickname for Spurs without any malice attached, so i don't see why people need to take anything to heart- I don't even think there's a hit of consideration about it being racist when it's used. It might have originated that way, but language evolves, so i find this all a bit bizarre. Maybe i just don't know enough about it.

Tho i also just cannot stand political correctness. If people are being racist with the intention to offend, then fair enough, that's not allowed, but i think in general people need to grow a thicker skin (and a pair of bollocks) and stop overreacting to stuff like this.
 

blueflint

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #11
cant stand any form of racism lets just cut it out completely:claping hands::claping hands::claping hands:
 

rob9872

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #12
Most fans (like me) are ignorant. I've not seen the film, but if they themselves are not bothered about it, then why are others making waves? Is any word really that offensive? Plenty worse things can happen and I'm sure most of them are proud of their roots and have no problem highlighting it. Baddiel obviously done nothing for a while and trying to get himself noticed again.
 
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rob9872

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #13
A public awareness film on knife crime or drugs would have more relevance be much harder hitting, but I guess that doesn't box-tick enough for middle class Britain who pretend the problems don't exist.
 

CovKingChris

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #14
Never even heard it before. It can't be that bad.
 

Coventry La La La

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #15
CovKingChris said:
Never even heard it before. It can't be that bad.
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Well according to the video it's just as offensive as the "N" or "P" word's and also carries a criminal charge if spoken in public so I'm sure it's bad.
 

We'll_live_and_die

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #16
I know lets bring a word that the majority of people have never heard to the forefront and encourage racism by raising awareness of a racist word that no-one has ever heard of before..........

RANT OVER:slap:
 

Coventry La La La

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #17
I was waiting for Lampard to say...."there was a word beginning with F.....people still call me it".
 

rob9872

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #18
Reminds of the song "we'll be going down to Tottenham with our willies hanging out, singing I've got a foreskin howbout you?"

The N word and the P word that you refer to should not be offensive either ... imo.

The P word if used for people from Pakistan is fine, but the ignorant majority use it for Indians, Bangladeshis etc etc. That is offensive but I see that only in the same way as I would be by being called Scottish or Welsh!

The N word people say is because of 200 years of slavery etc etc. How that affects modern black society I have no idea, in the same way things Oliver Cromwell did in no way affect me or my immediate living ancestors.

The real story should be that using race to bully people is unacceptable and the word or more importantly the context of the word and the aggressive nature its used are what defines it to me, but perhaps I'm an old school dinosaur.

Anyhow, I don't think many people are racist these days its more religion than race which seems to divide and that's a different soap-box all together because I would happily see all religions banned. "My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend!"
 

ccfctommy

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  • Apr 15, 2011
  • #19
Spurs fans refer to themselves as Yids and call themselves the Yid Army. Its all about context.
I hate all discrimination but is what Spurs fans do that offensive? Ajax are the same, call themselves Jews...
 

CovKingChris

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  • Apr 16, 2011
  • #20
The 'P- word', you all know what it is, but surely it's not offensive if you call someone from Pakistan it. It's the same as calling comeone from manchester a Manc, or someone from Liverpool a scouser. It's just the way people use them for other races such as Indians or Bangledeshi's like Rob said.
 

flammablepiss

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  • Apr 16, 2011
  • #21
Wait what ? they DONT use the N and the P word ?......
ermmmm i'm pretty sure they do ! Nobody cares about these campaigns ! They think people care ?... corse they dont !
Most people who are offensive and anti social at football matches have little intelligence and theyr not going to stop, if anything these campaigns will make them say it more because it will get them a bigger reaction.... so for the very few people that its going to get to stop saying racist chants I think its a waste of time and money but hey thats just me and the fa is probably obliged to do so anyway !
 

CovKingChris

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  • Apr 16, 2011
  • #22
is it okay for leicester to chant "your a town full of p****" to us?
 
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sternslovchild

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  • Apr 16, 2011
  • #23
yam yam????
 
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