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Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,816
Deleted member 5849 said:
He was superb against Colombia.
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I thought he was excellent against Sweden too, although it was a completely different performance from him..

No doubt if we had lost people would have been having a go at Kane and really criticising Southgate for having him play so deep.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,817
British stores Aldi and Lidl have said they will close early on Sunday if England make the World Cup final.

Lovely to see a bit of patriotism.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,818
Otis said:
British stores Aldi and Lidl have said they will close early on Sunday if England make the World Cup final.

Lovely to see a bit of patriotism.
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...from the German companies.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,819
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I agree, Kane hasn't been at his very best, but he has still been there at the vital moment when we've needed him. Three smashing penalties and also a late header have got us to where we are now.

I think it is a bit silly to act as if Sterling has played well and constantly defend him, yet come out and say Kane needs to improve.

You've sort of answered your own question when you say we need to find a way to create chances for Kane. The main person who should be doing this is not.

Anyway, let's hope Sterling scores a hatrick tomorow and shuts me up!
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If you’re going to quote me, at least have the integrity to do it properly. You’re jumping to your own, inaccurate conclusions based off what I’m saying.

I never said Kane has to improve, but what I did say is that Southgate needs to address the fact that Kane isn’t having many shots. His average is 3 per game and minus the 3 penalties, that’s roughly 2 shots per game. Now, what you’ve done is assume that I’m blaming for Kane for that. Wrong. I’ve been consistent in saying that we as a team are not creating enough chances from open play and that is therefore affecting Kane’s performance.

Your next point, that this is Sterling’s job is pretty silly. Firstly, football is a team game so it’s no one person’s job to create chances for Kane — this is particularly difficult if you’re the furthest player up the pitch as Sterling was. In our system, there’s a few ‘playmakers’. Henderson’s role is a pivot, hitting the wingbacks and putting in balls in behind defences to Lingard, Dele and Sterling (mainly). Lingard’s and Dele’s (to a lesser degree) role in creating chances is working with with their wingbacks and Sterling (see Lingard’s goal v Pananma and Dele’s v Sweden). Our wingbacks are key to our system, these are players who should primarily be getting the balls in for (mainly) Kane, Lingard, Dele and Sterling. Trippier has created the most chances for us (only De Brunye and an other have created more in the whole tournament, last time I checked) and Young has also created his fair share (mainly from setpieces though). Sterling’s job is multifaceted which makes him important to the way Southgate plays. Links up with Dele and Lingard, dribbles with ball from deep (incidently, leading Kane’s shot v Sweden) plays on the last shoulder of the defender — v effective against Sweden. To say it’s mainly Sterling’s job to create chances for Kane just shows a fundamental lack of understanding in the way Southgate has setup the team.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,820
Deleted member 5849 said:
...from the German companies.
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Yeah, kind of my point.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,821
Mucca Mad Boys said:
If you’re going to quote me, at least have the integrity to do it properly. You’re jumping to your own, inaccurate conclusions based off what I’m saying.

I never said Kane has to improve, but what I did say is that Southgate needs to address the fact that Kane isn’t having many shots. His average is 3 per game and minus the 3 penalties, that’s roughly 2 shots per game. Now, what you’ve done is assume that I’m blaming for Kane for that. Wrong. I’ve been consistent in saying that we as a team are not creating enough chances from open play and that is therefore affecting Kane’s performance.

Your next point, that this is Sterling’s job is pretty silly. Firstly, football is a team game so it’s no one person’s job to create chances for Kane — this is particularly difficult if you’re the furthest player up the pitch as Sterling was. In our system, there’s a few ‘playmakers’. Henderson’s role is a pivot, hitting the wingbacks and putting in balls in behind defences to Lingard, Dele and Sterling (mainly). Lingard’s and Dele’s (to a lesser degree) role in creating chances is working with with their wingbacks and Sterling (see Lingard’s goal v Pananma and Dele’s v Sweden). Our wingbacks are key to our system, these are players who should primarily be getting the balls in for (mainly) Kane, Lingard, Dele and Sterling. Trippier has created the most chances for us (only De Brunye and an other have created more in the whole tournament, last time I checked) and Young has also created his fair share (mainly from setpieces though). Sterling’s job is multifaceted which makes him important to the way Southgate plays. Links up with Dele and Lingard, dribbles with ball from deep (incidently, leading Kane’s shot v Sweden) plays on the last shoulder of the defender — v effective against Sweden. To say it’s mainly Sterling’s job to create chances for Kane just shows a fundamental lack of understanding in the way Southgate has setup the team.
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What a complete crock of shit.

You are so far up Sterling's arse it is unbelievable. You've bigged him up constantly and have criticsed Kane.

You get called out on it again and the only way to try and dig yourself out of it is to play semantics.To try and tell me I don't understand how Southgate has set up the team as some sort of one up by saying Sterling isn't in the team to create chances actually made me laugh out loud.

I guess the one assist he actually got for Lingard was a case of him not doing his job then? Which way is it?

So far we have had:

- It's not his job to score.
- It is not his job to create chances.
- He works hard off the camera when no one is watching.
- He makes good runs.

The excuses for him get worse and you are making yourself look like a plonker.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,822
I_Saw_Shaw_Score said:
Something to do with an anti Russia video him and fella with the ponytail (Vida?) made after the game on Saturday.
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As if the crowd wouldn't be on their backs enough anyway after beating the home team.
That is a huge mistake to make from every point of view.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,823
Captain Dart said:
As if the crowd wouldn't be on their backs enough anyway after beating the home team.
That is a huge mistake to make from every point of view.
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Yup. A shed load of English supporting Russian fans to be had tomorrow night me thinks.
 
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CCFC88

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,824
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What a complete crock of shit.

You are so far up Sterling's arse it is unbelievable. You've bigged him up constantly and have criticsed Kane.

You get called out on it again and the only way to try and dig yourself out of it is to play semantics.To try and tell me I don't understand how Southgate has set up the team as some sort of one up by saying Sterling isn't in the team to create chances actually made me laugh out loud.

I guess the one assist he actually got for Lingard was a case of him not doing his job then? Which way is it?

So far we have had:

- It's not his job to score.
- It is not his job to create chances.
- He works hard off the camera when no one is watching.
- He makes good runs.

The excuses for him get worse and you are making yourself look like a plonker.
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Do you think he should be dropped for tomorrow nights game?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,825
CCFC88 said:
Do you think he should be dropped for tomorrow nights game?
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Where have you been!
 
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SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,826
Looking forward to this SF tonight.

Think Belgium might have too much for France.

2/1 to win in 90mins looks tasty to me.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,827
SIR ERNIE said:
Looking forward to this SF tonight.

Think Belgium might have too much for France. 2/1 to win in 90mins looks tasty to me.
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Yep, with you on that.

I think player for player France have the better team, but on their day the Belgians can beat anyone.

Would not at all surprise me if we saw a bit of a French wobbler tonight.

They are just one little tiff away from a full blown tantrum
 

Gazolba

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,828
Mucca Mad Boys said:
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Our success hasn’t been down to tearing teams apart from open play, in fact, it’s completely the opposite with 72% of our goals coming from set-pieces. <snip>
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We pretty much tore Panama apart!
And set-pieces result from open play.
You usually don't get a corner-kick unless you are attacking!

I do believe Southgate will field an unchanged side for the SF.
 
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Covstu

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,829
SIR ERNIE said:
Looking forward to this SF tonight.

Think Belgium might have too much for France.

2/1 to win in 90mins looks tasty to me.
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I had a tenner on France at the start so I am hoping that continues but agree i think Belgium will pip them
 

Covstu

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,830
Gazolba said:
We pretty much tore Panama apart!
And set-pieces result from open play.
You usually don't get a corner-kick unless you are attacking!

I do believe Southgate will field an unchanged side for the SF.
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Agree, equally people are talking about scoring from set pieces like it’s cheating or false. Any team that has this in their armoury is a very dangerous team. We should know supporting city where we can barely take a throw in!
 
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Gazolba

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,831
For a laugh:
David Squires on … England, Croatia and the World Cup semi-finals
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,832
I think England and Belgium are destined to meet. So if Belgium lose so will England and vice versa. Either way they'll play eachother next
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,833
If ever an article were set for this thread...

Raheem Sterling: What are critics not seeing in England forward's World Cup performances?
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,834
Deleted member 5849 said:
If ever an article were set for this thread...

Raheem Sterling: What are critics not seeing in England forward's World Cup performances?
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Saw that, but thought it was too much a case of lighting the blue touchpaper.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,835
Cannot call this game, they're both so well matched.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,836
Liquid Gold said:
Cannot call this game, they're both so well matched.
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The pace of Mbappe looks like it might be the difference.

Hazard has turned up, though!
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,837
Belgium looking good atm!!
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,838
westcountry_skyblue said:
Belgium looking good atm!!
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Agreed but France look frightening on the counter attack. Gonna be an interesting one
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,839
Really good game so far. Belgian possession and odd threat. France look great going forward. Enjoying this one until we play one of them.


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Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,840
ccfchoi87 said:
Agreed but France look frightening on the counter attack. Gonna be an interesting one
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Bit different to the war then, when that time they were frightened and didn't counter attack.
 

tisza

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,841
Good game this. 100mph stuff.
 

SIR ERNIE

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,842
My money's on Belgium but for England's sake I'd rather France win.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,843
Both teams prefer to play on the counter, looks like they're both waiting for the other to commit too many forward.

Loads of injuries, red cards and all the way to pens please.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,844
Liquid Gold said:
Both teams prefer to play on the counter, looks like they're both waiting for the other to commit too many forward.

Loads of injuries, red cards and all the way to pens please.
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And pens long into the night, Belgium finally winning it 42-41.
 

tisza

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,845
BTW Sterling doubters strange Croatian coach identifies him & Kane as main threats. Full of praise for his performances in the press conference.
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,846
Otis said:
And pens long into the night, Belgium finally winning it 42-41.
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100 pens each before FIFA call it off and make them replay the match Sunday morning.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,847
tisza said:
BTW Sterling doubters strange Croatian coach identifies him & Kane as main threats. Full of praise for his performances in the press conference.
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Why is the Croatian coach strange?
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,848
Liquid Gold said:
100 pens each before FIFA call it off and make them replay the match Sunday morning.
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In Vladivostok
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,849

Ah, yeah, see what you mean. He has got that groomer look about him hasn't he.
 

Otis

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  • Jul 10, 2018
  • #3,850
Liquid Gold said:
In Vladivostok
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Which also then goes to extra time and pens.
 
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