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Nonleagueherewecome said:

You might as well just put my name rather than snipe indirectly!

He said "They are going to bring the club back. What will you all have to moan about then?": there is no evidence of them bringing the club back, but more to the point, they took it away. - This again, it's old now, Sisu didn't have a choice to take the club away from the Ricoh, according to a Judge in a court of law Sisu have a valid arguement and have been granted a JR into the £14M bail out of ACL, in this instance why would Sisu continue to fund ACL and CCC and put money in their back pockets when they feel their has been an injustice, I am quietly glad we are playing in Northampton considering the alternatives.


He's obviously just fine with the present relocation-he "doesn't care" about it if he thinks everyone else is just moaning. - No one has said it's 'fine' but what you have to accept is when Sisu decided that the Ricoh was no longer an option there was no alternative to move our club on a temporary basis after all it's their business, they have invested millions into the Football Club, what right do we have to question how they run their business?


He also said "WHO KNOWS (when we'll move back). How can anyone argue that they are bad owners or good if none of us know what they are really doing." There is plenty of evidence of them being bad owners, exhibit A: we are playing in fucking Northampton! - No one is going to sit here and Sisu are the greatest owners to walk the planet and far from it. However what they have done since coming in is looked at the business and let it continue until a time where they believed either a) They could no longer fund the business the way it was lead without no success visible or b) Improve the business as a whole and build a solid business plan. Unfortunately in Sisu's minds playing in Northampton for 3-5 years is apart of that even though they have conceded that the Ricoh may be a better option financially (Tim Fisher recently stated this in his recent meeting with the SCG and others).


"If we are not back in Cov 2019-2020 season then I agree there will be cause for concern." So, he doesn't think there's any concern now? Well it at least explains the superior attitude toward those that feel differently. If he thinks we can wait until 2019-20 he surely doesn't care about us playing in Northampton? - Of course their is a cause for concern, but I think Rich's comment that you have quoted is only an indication to a concern of club being moved permnamently, of course there is no proof of this or to remain partial no proof of the opposite, however you have to look at the facts the Club have recruited CBRE in to provide assistance in purchasing suitable land, they've recently brought in a Sky Blues fan to govern a comission of fans who will ultimately have a say on the features of a new stadium, it has openly been stated by a number of people that Sisu will build a new stadium and this is their plan a and according to Sandra Garlick technical plans for the new stadium have now been drafted. Purchasing land etc, takes time as we all know and the Football League have seen that, what I fail to understand by many posters on this forum is what arguement is their based on opinion that Sisu will not build a new stadium in the Coventry area?


Maybe he does care and is acting disingeniously to get a rise out of people, but please, enough with your patronising tone, Nick-I'm not the only person who he has wound up today.

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shmmeee said:

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"It's old now" Is it? Really? We've been in Northampton for less than half a season and now it's valid to say "oh can't believe you're still talking about that!"? - The arguement is old yes, what alternative did we have to playing in Northampton that was realistic and viable? I forgot there isn't one.

No. The judge did not say Sisu had a valid argument, they said there is merit to taking it further. Another judge said almost the exact opposite. So if you're appealing to authority on this, it's 1-1 still to be decided. It's stupid at best and underhanded at worst to paint this as a victory for Sisu's argument. - It's no victory but it highlights a reason as to why Sisu won't accept a deal at the Ricoh.

Can I just high light: " I am ... glad we are playing in Northampton". That's all you need ladies and gentlemen. This man is glad the income of his club has been slashed. He's glad disabled and elderly fans can't watch. He's glad the club are at their lowest point in a generation with no clear plan for the future! - I expected you to twist my words however let me explain the reason why I said this, Walsall, Villa, Leicester, Birmingham or even worse dropped from the Football League in total, yes I am glad we are still playing Football and I am also glad that we are not playing in a neighbouring/rival Club's venue or maybe you'd of preferred to just not have us start the season at all?

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No, noone said it's "fine", but you ARE "glad". - Yep well done, you've mentioned that already.

"When you accept that Sisu made the decision that there was no alternative, then there was no alternative" Do you ever get dizzy following that kind of circular logic? So it's a good decision because Sisu said it's a good decision. You see, once you accept that I've made the decision to rob your house, you should be happy and glad that I'm not raping your wife too. - What a twisted and sick logic you have displayed, I am not saying by far that any decision Sisu have made is "Good" but let's be honest when we are considering the alternatives for this season there was none and would I rather support my team in Northampton or not have a club to support at all.... I think the answer speaks for itself.

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No-one is arguing that Sisu think it's a good plan. The problem is, a good plan for who? and if the answer is Sisu why do those of us on this board give a flying fuck? And I'd love to have an informed opinion on this great plan to rescue the club. Except fully one year since it was revealed, we haven't a fucking clue what it is. - Of course whatever plan they come up with is going to suit them, there looking for a return on their investment for there investors which by any business is perfectly acceptable.

Still no-one can explain why we need the freehold. - Gives them an asset to sell with the Club would be my guess.

Still no-one can explain why we had to move from the Ricoh in the interim. - Look in my last post you'll see I gave an acceptable reason.

Still no-one can explain how we will meet FFP and stay competitive in the interim. - Sisu have said they will invest money into the squad for the nexty 3-5 years to keep them competitive whether that would meet the criteria set by the Football League that's for the FL to decide.

Still no-one can explain how we plan to bring the 95% of fans that have left since Sisu's arrival to come back. - Fans want to success and Club playing in it's rightful home if you manage to achieve these things fans will come back.




If i've parsed that last sentence correctly (and it was a struggle) you're asking what evidence there is that Sisu won't build a stadium. Well logic 101 for you, you can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on Sisu and 12 months into their planning we have exactly nothing to show. Not a plan, not a sketch on a fag packet, certainly not a clear business plan. Oh but Sandra Garlick says "I'm sure something will be out soon" so that's OK. Just like Fisher said something will be out, what was is 200 days ago? - There is more to show that Sisu's plans for a new stadium are moving along, why do you fail to see it?!

I'm a man of evidence and overwhelmingly the evidence is that there is no clear plan for a stadium. Logic would dictate that with the need to any kind of PR win from the club, if there was a plan we'd be told about it. So, going back to the point, it's not on us to prove there is no plan, it's on them to prove there is one. - I am sorry but the highlighted remark made me burst into laughter.

They've brought in CRBE, but in 6 months they haven't found a single site? - Does that mean when they have found an individual site they should come and tell you for apporval even though you have invested no money into it?

They've told people they will build it? So fucking what. I'm telling you I'm Morgan Freeman, it doesn't make it true FFS. Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all.
[/I] - Hard fact life of is you ideolgy in this sentance is nothing less then a mockery but I'll play along and say "Wow"
I honestly can't believe that post. We're not allowed to question great Sisu that have saved our club. And then your have the gall to accuse someone else of posting exaggerated views and being on the wind up? - Question them all you like by all means, doesn't mean you will get anywhere or it will achieve anything, as I have said previously our club is their business and whether you like this or not THEY CAN RUN OUR CLUB THE WAY THEY SEE FIT AS IS THEIR PEROGATIVE AS OWNERS!!

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