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  • Start date Nov 27, 2016
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Fergusons_Beard

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #1
After seeing Ben Stephenson's tackle on Lewington on the highlights I am amazed he got a straight red!

He's sliding into a 50-50 without studs raised and get a hint of the ball.

Lewington rolls around on the floor rather cleverly & gets the player sent off!

Can someone nearer than the TV cameras confirm that Bens a dirty bastard....


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I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #2
Crazy thing was as soon as it happened you just knew it was going to be a red card.

The game has gone.

That whole 5 seconds of that being a red, Lewington's reaction, is one of the on field reasons why I am rapidly falling out with the sport as a whole.
 
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westofrayne

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #3
Ben gave the ref a chance to show the red card by going in for the tackle knowing that the ref was brandishing cards like they were going out of fashion. Seeing it on tv there is very little chance of it being overturned, he was not in full control, foot was off the ground etc the ref has plenty of choices. The MK player made the refs job very easy by being shot from the stands. Ben needs to learn from this, yes in a lot of games it would be a yellow but don't give the ref the chance to show the red.
 

I_Saw_Shaw_Score

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #4
westofrayne said:
Ben gave the ref a chance to show the red card by going in for the tackle knowing that the ref was brandishing cards like they were going out of fashion. Seeing it on tv there is very little chance of it being overturned, he was not in full control, foot was off the ground etc the ref has plenty of choices. The MK player made the refs job very easy by being shot from the stands. Ben needs to learn from this, yes in a lot of games it would be a yellow but don't give the ref the chance to show the red.
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I think that was the first card of the game wasn't it?
Then he followed it up by about 6 yellows in 10 minutes.

That's the thing people will state the laws say that's a red card, yet the laws state kicking the ball away is a yellow yet MK player booted it about 30 yards when we went to take a quick free kick nothing.

The 'interpretation' nonsense is just an excuse to allow refs to toss a coin on decision making!
 
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ceetee

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #5
I'm not going to blame the ref for our poor performance, but there was one incident in the first half where one of our players (sorry can't remember who) was deliberately blocked just outside pen area which I thought was a clear yellow not given
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #6
ceetee said:
I'm not going to blame the ref for our poor performance, but there was one incident in the first half where one of our players (sorry can't remember who) was deliberately blocked just outside pen area which I thought was a clear yellow not given
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Think it was Bigi wasn't it?

Clear foul all day long.
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #7
westofrayne said:
Seeing it on tv there is very little chance of it being overturned, he was not in full control, foot was off the ground etc the ref has plenty of choices. <snip>. Ben needs to learn from this, yes in a lot of games it would be a yellow but don't give the ref the chance to show the red.
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I agree. Not the worse tackle but not the worst refereeing decision either. Had that been their player we would be screaming for a red. He was pit of control, late and clearly got their player on the ankle - he got no ball. Like I said not the worst red card but not a howler of a decision. You just can't get away with that in the modern game.

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Otis

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #8
I wouldn't, but then I am old school.
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #9
stupot07 said:
I agree. Not the worse tackle but not the worst refereeing decision either. Had that been their player we would be screaming for a red. He was pit of control, late and clearly got their player on the ankle - he got no ball. Like I said not the worst red card but not a howler of a decision. You just can't get away with that in the modern game.

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Bollocks mate, it was an appalling decision.

Not one of the three reasons teh ref should give a red in that tackle.

If it's not overturned then fuck football
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #10
David O'Day said:
Bollocks mate, it was an appalling decision.

Not one of the three reasons teh ref should give a red in that tackle.

If it's not overturned then fuck football
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Its not going to get overturned.



It no more different to this.



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Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #11
westofrayne said:
Ben gave the ref a chance to show the red card by going in for the tackle knowing that the ref was brandishing cards like they were going out of fashion. Seeing it on tv there is very little chance of it being overturned, he was not in full control, foot was off the ground etc the ref has plenty of choices. The MK player made the refs job very easy by being shot from the stands. Ben needs to learn from this, yes in a lot of games it would be a yellow but don't give the ref the chance to show the red.
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Yes Ben needs to learn from this, next time we play MK he should really do him Roy Keane style.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #12
stupot07 said:
Its not going to get overturned.



It no more different to this.



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He's about half a foot lower than that mate. Go to fucking specsavers kid
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #13
Also he didn't endanger anyones safety, it's at best a yellow
 
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stupot07

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #14
Its not going to get overturned, and I maintain its not a shocker of a decision. Unlucky, maybe, but not a shocker.

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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #15
westofrayne said:
Ben gave the ref a chance to show the red card by going in for the tackle knowing that the ref was brandishing cards like they were going out of fashion. Seeing it on tv there is very little chance of it being overturned, he was not in full control, foot was off the ground etc the ref has plenty of choices. The MK player made the refs job very easy by being shot from the stands. Ben needs to learn from this, yes in a lot of games it would be a yellow but don't give the ref the chance to show the red.
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It was the first card of the game bud
 

David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #16
stupot07 said:
Its not going to get overturned, and I maintain its not a shocker of a decision. Unlucky, maybe, but not a shocker.

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Yeah unlucky in the fact the ref does know the rules of the game.
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #17
IMO was never a red
Ref was fucking shit, kicking Away balls went unpunished at least twice, bigi block didn't even produce a foul Wtf
There was another 3 challenges on Reid where I thought should have been yellows Long before the Red

Regarding the red, on initially seeing it I thought Stevenson actually got a toe to it, playing it onto the guy running at him haven't seen a replay but that was my initial thought
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #18
If Stevenson's was a red who almost broke their bloke in half 5 minutes later should of got 3 red cards
 
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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #19
just watched t#the terrible camera work on youtube

i think its not a red card challenge, outstretched leg, toe forward along the floor there was worse from DKE not long after
the ref needs sacking if he thinks thats a red

the video doesnt confirm any touch of the ball from stevenson so im sticking by my first assesment that he did toe the ball onto the other player

games gone tho and we lost points that we can never get back though poor refereeing
 
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ceetee

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #20
Whatever your opinion of the ref we lost the game because we couldn't score
 
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David O'Day

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #21
ceetee said:
Whatever your opinion of the ref we lost the game because we couldn't score
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We did score blud and it was 1 all when it happened.
 
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Hobo

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #22
About the red card, no real complaints. But Sheffield United and a certain tackle anyone? I still can't see how any ref could not give a straight red for that shocker!!!
 
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Otis

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #23
That was as daft as they come.

Wonder if our season may have panned out any differently had that been given as a straight red.
 
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georgehudson

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  • Nov 27, 2016
  • #24
Andrew Davies, from Hampshire, piss poor referee, & he's on the select panel for up & coming refs.
If he were anything like a person who admits that he might have made a mistake, then he should review several incidents.
Not only was the red card wrong, the other incidents of Stevenson getting a blatant & deliberate elbow in the back & Reid getting a forearm smash from their full back need retrospective punishment.
To say he didn't see them is not an excuse, he can watch the video.
Who,I wonder was the referee's assessor, he needs to be positive & mark Davies down for an utterly incompetent performance?
Having watched a fair bit of football today, I've seen at least 8 similar challenges with only 2 yellow cards dished out.
Either get your act together Davies, or find another job, I'd advise a shit house cleaner
 
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lifeskyblue

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #25
The ref only gets one view. He reached for the card immediately and gave red. My first thought was it could be a red. On seeing replay I think it could have gone either way. Not the worse refereeing decision I saw on Saturday. It won't be overturned as it can be viewed as dangerous play.


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Cranfield Sky Blue

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #26
As soon as it happened I said to my mate, he's off for that. Doesn't look any better on replay.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #27
I am sick of seeing these premiership referee's coming down to the 1st Division, totally different types of football premiership pansy tip tap diving players compared to in your face not giving an inch type players. I counted at least 17 (stopped after 65 mins) incidents in the middle of the park where the players were jostling and putting a footin to get the ball and the referee blew immediately. You can see the frustration in Bigi getting worse you cannot get near a player these days and the game becomes a farce for the spectators that's what is making me fall out of love with the beautiful game
 

sw88

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #28
Surely he was never a premiership ref????
 

ceetee

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #29
David O'Day said:
We did score blud and it was 1 all when it happened.
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I think you know what I meant. Your'e doing a " _brian_"
We could, and should have been 3-1 up by then, and we missed chances after the tackle
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #30
Ref was not the worst we have seen at the Ricoh this season. Missed a couple of 'professional' plays by them, a couple of body checks and blew a little quickly on 50/50s but I honestly believe he got most things ok. I wasn't apoplectic as I was when Moss stole the show against Scunthorpe.


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georgehudson

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #31
Some points taken 'lsb' but I still contest that 2 specific instances, the deliberate elbow in the back on Stevenson, & the forearm smash on Reid were both prime examples of violent conduct & neither received any attention from that XXXXXXX XXXX Davies, & yes Moss was shite against Scunthorpe, following in the footsteps of Uriah Rennie, in reffing by numbers.
So, on that basis I stick by my previous statement that he (Davies), ought to get his act together or find another job.
I would still recommend that he become a shit house cleaner,
'want your bog cleaned' then call Moss n' Davies on 0121 012 101
 

lifeskyblue

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  • Nov 28, 2016
  • #32
georgehudson said:
Some points taken 'lsb' but I still contest that 2 specific instances, the deliberate elbow in the back on Stevenson, & the forearm smash on Reid were both prime examples of violent conduct & neither received any attention from that XXXXXXX XXXX Davies, & yes Moss was shite against Scunthorpe, following in the footsteps of Uriah Rennie, in reffing by numbers.
So, on that basis I stick by my previous statement that he (Davies), ought to get his act together or find another job.
I would still recommend that he become a shit house cleaner,
'want your bog cleaned' then call Moss n' Davies on 0121 012 101
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That's one of the great things about football...we all see the game differently and there are as many opinions as there are fans. I actually thought for the first time in a long time we weren't bullied by a team. I didn't see them intimidate us like teams like Wimbledon. I missed the forearm smash on Reid but felt overall the ref blew up too often rather than not enough.


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Pipehitterz

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  • Nov 30, 2016
  • #33
Amazed that we aren't appealing this

Watched Liverpool game last night and someone put in a challenge, probably worse that Stevenson's, and it resulted in a quickly taken Free kick and not even a talking too from the ref.
What gives?
The ref was reaching for the red as Stevenson was sliding in on that
 

ceetee

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  • Nov 30, 2016
  • #34
Has anybody ever wondered whether the football establishment has a downer on CCFC because of SISU?

Surely not........that would be a conspiracy
 
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