THE RICOH - must have swayed PH4 our way !!! (1 Viewer)

johnniericoh · Apr 8, 2013

I bet that the Ricoh in all it's majesty had a significant impact on our Mr PH4 in deciding to invest in CCFC.

He must have been mightily impressed when first walking down the entrance concourse and seeing the conference facilities, concert arenas, bars, restaurants, hotel accommodation and the sheer splendour of the rest including the casino.

All this coupled with the potential site for regeneration and the impending rail line (since delayed) must have, thankfully, proved irresistible and hence we can now look forward to the resurrection of a new era.

RoboCCFC90 · Apr 8, 2013

Maybe but considering that Preston Haskell has been linked with Charlton and Leeds in the past, there's no way that the Ricoh and the land around the stadium is the only thing that makes Haskell want to invest in our Football Club.

johnniericoh · Apr 8, 2013

RoboCCFC90 said:
Maybe but considering that Preston Haskell has been linked with Charlton and Leeds in the past, there's no way that the Ricoh and the land around the stadium is the only thing that makes Haskell want to invest in our Football Club.

As i said it must have "swayed" him along with other criteria to make a more viable overall package than say Charlton or Leeds

Grendel · Apr 8, 2013

johnniericoh said:
As i said it must have "swayed" him along with other criteria to make a more viable overall package than say Charlton or Leeds

He was swayed towards Leeds. He got outbid.

Mary_Mungo_Midge · Apr 8, 2013

Grendel said:
He was swayed towards Leeds. He got outbid.

Or he bid a value consummate with the worth he placed upon the business. It doesn't mean he 'lost' or that he hasn't got sufficient funds. You can go on ebay tonight and 'win' every auction of you want.

I reckon it's more prudent to set a sensible level and stick to it. Sometimes you'll be outbid by someone with another agenda. It may be insanity.

The sensible businessman sticks to his guns and budget: if you'll forgive the wild west reference

Gynnsthetonic · Apr 8, 2013

hope who buys the the stadium will convert one of the ends behind the goal. Love to see a 2 tier and moved closer to the pitch.

luwalla · Apr 8, 2013

i heard it was the cameo appearance from david bell that finally persuaded him...

georgehudson · Apr 8, 2013

was Mr Fisher there on sat & is he still @ the club ?

TheParsonsHose · Apr 8, 2013

Gynnsthetonic said:
hope who buys the the stadium will convert one of the ends behind the goal. Love to see a 2 tier and moved closer to the pitch.

No chance.

CCFC88 · Apr 8, 2013

He wasn't too keen on elland road. The Ricoh is a much more inviting place for perspective investors/owners, especially for someone like Haskell who appears to be more interested in the infrastructure than the club and team.

For me I'd much rather watch football at elland road week in week outbuti can understand where he is coming from, especially with a sold out Davis cup tie being played at the same time as a football match in the same venue.

It's no coincidence that bates spunked 2 years worth of transfer budget on redeveloping the Ella's road main stand and corporate suites.

georgehudson · Apr 8, 2013

i think i get your gist dcov, but the fact that you'd rather be at elland road is a bit of a giveaway as to where your loyalty lies,
tupperware methinks,
but maybe from cov anyway,
PUSB

derbyskyblue · Apr 8, 2013

The word is he was impressed with a sold out davis cup and footy at the same time, add in to that concerts, corporate stuff etc, well it is impressive.

lordsummerisle · Apr 9, 2013

How many people is a sold out Davis Cup tie?

Genuinely no idea, and how many Davis Cup ties are there at home over a year?

quinn1971 · Apr 9, 2013

johnniericoh said:
I bet that the Ricoh in all it's majesty had a significant impact on our Mr PH4 in deciding to invest in CCFC.

He must have been mightily impressed when first walking down the entrance concourse and seeing the conference facilities, concert arenas, bars, restaurants, hotel accommodation and the sheer splendour of the rest including the casino.

All this coupled with the potential site for regeneration and the impending rail line (since delayed) must have, thankfully, proved irresistible and hence we can now look forward to the resurrection of a new era.

Can also add an Olympic venue to that list.Pretty impressive for a league 1 team

torchomatic · Apr 9, 2013

I hope he didn't go in the Gents' toilets. He would be less impressed.

torchomatic · Apr 9, 2013

And consequently it was difficult trying to get a parking space. A space paid for in advance to ACL.

derbyskyblue said:
The word is he was impressed with a sold out davis cup and footy at the same time, add in to that concerts, corporate stuff etc, well it is impressive.

lordsummerisle · Apr 9, 2013

quinn1971 said:
Can also add an Olympic venue to that list.Pretty impressive for a league 1 team

Maybe he'll try to buy it in another 62 years time when it might come around again.

Delboycov · Apr 9, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Maybe he'll try to buy it in another 62 years time when it might come around again.

Doubt it...but PH6 might!

lordsummerisle · Apr 26, 2013

derbyskyblue said:
The word is he was impressed with a sold out davis cup and footy at the same time, add in to that concerts, corporate stuff etc, well it is impressive.

Not if you have to pay £50,000 to get the LTA to come here for the Davis Cup.

derbyskyblue · Apr 26, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Not if you have to pay £50,000 to get the LTA to come here for the Davis Cup.

Thats peanuts. You have to speculate to accumulate.
The davis cup was sold out, again factor in f/b car parking,hotel, merchandise etc etc.
Fook me the money we dont make from the ricoh, no wonder were stuffed.

lordsummerisle · Apr 26, 2013

derbyskyblue said:
Thats peanuts. You have to speculate to accumulate.
The davis cup was sold out, again factor in f/b car parking,hotel, merchandise etc etc.
Fook me the money we dont make from the ricoh, no wonder were stuffed.

Just under 9000 spectators over 3 days with the facility unavailable for anything else for about 3 weeks for laying out the courts?

Exactly how much should the council pay CCFC for playing at the Ricoh then for 23 games minimum per year with far greater numbers than the Davis Cup brought?

Pleased you fell into my trap though.

Sba180 · Apr 26, 2013

johnniericoh said:
I bet that the Ricoh in all it's majesty had a significant impact on our Mr PH4 in deciding to invest in CCFC.o

He must have been mightily impressed when first walking down the entrance concourse and seeing the conference facilities, concert arenas, bars, restaurants, hotel accommodation and the sheer splendour of the rest including the casino.

All this coupled with the potential site for regeneration and the impending rail line (since delayed) must have, thankfully, proved irresistible and hence we can now look forward to the resurrection of a new era.

Thanks nostradamus, i thought he was attracted by the league one side that is crumbling around itself, a 2/3 empty ground every home match and one major success in 130 years.

What a waste of a post

ricohman · Apr 26, 2013

Its pretty obvious the stadium swayed him, we've known this for a while. Apparently there was too much investment needed in leeds stadium so he prob bid what he thought was right, no more. If someone outbid him its because he deemed it unwise to raise his own bid

ajsccfc · Apr 26, 2013

Nostradamus predicted things, he didn't give an obvious evaluation of things already happened.

lordsummerisle · Apr 26, 2013

With the Council paying £50,000 per 9000 fans to watch the Davis Cup at the Ricoh, then i think just this season they owe us £1,388,150 for League Games, and £450,000 for Cup games at the Ricoh.

Paxman II · Apr 26, 2013

...and this is his local stadium in Texas

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=...urce=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=k5t6Ucv4MPGb0AWD-ID4Dw

Still think the Ricoh impressed him?

Sba180 · Apr 26, 2013

Nostradamus actually predicted feck all apart from how to make good jam. Yes i watch QI. However ajsccfc, ill bear it in mind for future

BurbageSkyBlues · Apr 26, 2013

Paxman II said:
...and this is his local stadium in Texas

https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=...urce=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=k5t6Ucv4MPGb0AWD-ID4Dw

Still think the Ricoh impressed him?

Guess he'll be putting a roof over our heads, then ....

Mucca Mad Boys · Apr 26, 2013

Of course it was, look at the big takeovers in lower league football, they've all had brand new swanky stadiums that attract investors so they can develop the land and make a nice profit, that's why people invest in football, PH4, like anyone, wants to make something off his investment, that's why his bid hangs on getting 50% of ACL. With SISU the ground was a cash-cow for them, but for PH4, it's not (sarcasm), the exact same applies, because thats how these capitalists work. Interestingly, the term 'Mayfair hedge-fund' is used to undermine their case, their case is similar (in regards to the stadium) I guarantee no one will use 'Texan property developer' to insult him in the context.

Before the SISU 'lover' bollocks comes out, I hope this PH4 is legit, but I'm not going to bank on him like far too many people have, far too easily, what if he lets us down, like. Hoffman did?

shropshirecov · Apr 26, 2013

I'll believe in a takeover when I see it if that's okay.

ricohman · Apr 26, 2013

Correct me if im wrong but ph4 had nothing to do with the dallas cowboys, he has his hand in a few small american football teams and their stadiums are nothing like the cowboys.

Just because the local stadium tops ours dosnt mean he wasnt impressed with the ricoh

SkyblueBazza · Apr 26, 2013

SkyBlue_Taylor said:
Of course it was, look at the big takeovers in lower league football, they've all had brand new swanky stadiums that attract investors so they can develop the land and make a nice profit, that's why people invest in football, PH4, like anyone, wants to make something off his investment, that's why his bid hangs on getting 50% of ACL. With SISU the ground was a cash-cow for them, but for PH4, it's not (sarcasm), the exact same applies, because thats how these capitalists work. Interestingly, the term 'Mayfair hedge-fund' is used to undermine their case, their case is similar (in regards to the stadium) I guarantee no one will use 'Texan property developer' to insult him in the context.

Before the SISU 'lover' bollocks comes out, I hope this PH4 is legit, but I'm not going to bank on him like far too many people have, far too easily, what if he lets us down, like. Hoffman did?

I can almost guarantee the 'Texan property developer' thing will be a reality as soon as people get impatient at any lack of what they want to see, & agree with your thoughts regarding wanting something major back for the investment. Don't we all? Even contributing to a charity we do it for self reward - just not financial (unless its a tax break!), some get a feel good factor from it. Investors in football are really hard-nosed business people though.

bigfatronssba · Apr 26, 2013

SkyblueBazza said:
I can almost guarantee the 'Texan property developer' thing will be a reality as soon as people get impatient at any lack of what they want to see, & agree with your thoughts regarding wanting something major back for the investment. Don't we all? Even contributing to a charity we do it for self reward - just not financial (unless its a tax break!), some get a feel good factor from it. Investors in football are really hard-nosed business people though.

I don't have a problem if PH4, Sisu, or anyone make a fortune out of our football club. The only way to really make any money back is through success.

The reason I want Sisu out is because they basically don't know their arse from their elbow.

derbyskyblue · Apr 27, 2013

lordsummerisle said:
Just under 9000 spectators over 3 days with the facility unavailable for anything else for about 3 weeks for laying out the courts?

Exactly how much should the council pay CCFC for playing at the Ricoh then for 23 games minimum per year with far greater numbers than the Davis Cup brought?

Pleased you fell into my trap though.

FFS, look at the bigger picture, its not difficult.

andy_scates · Apr 27, 2013

He's into property retail, and car park C has plans passed to build an enormous hotel, correct me if I'm wrong but that's half his battle already won with the plans having been granted, the football club is a bonus on top of having a huge modern stadium

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