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The problem with SISU Out (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Elvis Pressley
  • Start date Jan 25, 2014
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Jack Griffin

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #176
wingy said:
Maybe Cordoza will buy Nuneaton and re-locate them as they pass the other way for a threeway .
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A veritable menage au trois.. truly shocking!
 

pete212

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #177
Drug cartels, gangsters and warlords perhaps
 
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rightumpty

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #178
Unfortunately when we think it can't get any worse, SISUE shit on us again. Just wish I could see any future for us under these reptiles.
lapsed_skyblue said:
There are a number of people who presume or hope that should SISU actually gain unfettered ownership of the Ricoh Arena that they will recover their investment by selling up and disappearing to the Cayman Islands with their booty. There is another faction that seem to believe that SISU will stay long enough to use their money to take the club back to the Premiership and then sell at a greater profit.
I don't believe that any of these scenarios are likely.
Whether SISU get the Ricoh on the cheap, or actually build a new stadium such will be the indebtness of CCFC I do not believe that there will be any bids for club to a level that will enable SISU to make the "return on their investment" that they want.
Perhaps more likely is that SISU will secure the Ricoh, or build a new ground and then task the club with paying management fees, interest payments and rent at a high level in order to extract their return over a longer period.
It will not end well for CCFC.
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #179
Otis said:
Disagree with you RT. For me the answer is to have 1,500 City fans turn up at Northampton every home game and 10,000 turn up outside the Ricoh.

That would clearly say the club belongs in Coventry. People turning up on the hill outside Sixfields for some could be simply be perceived that fans just don't want to give Sisu any money and want to see some of the game for free.
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Well tell "the some" its not exactly fun to travel there to stand on a hill get rained on nearly getting blown over and freezing to see half a game and that is if you've gone there to watch it.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #180
The Prefect said:
limoncello, I really understand your position on Phoenix Clubs but I'm surprised that you don't see the facts for what they are.

You're already supporting a Phoenix Club. The CCFC that won the FA Cup and had the history rested in Coventry City (Holdings) Ltd through itself or CCFC Ltd. With CCFC Ltd going into liquidation and Holdings now being run down / struck off (if that happens) the fact is you're already supporting a Phoenix Club.

Otium has no history of being Coventry City Football Club. They were allowed to buy the branding rights and a few assets from the club with Football League approval and were given the Football League golden share. That doen't make them Coventry City. Due to money and the status of CCFC when it went into administration, Otium start up in the third tier of the Football League. How lucky are they?

To be honest I am really struggling with the current situation. I want to support the club but the club I followed for 40 years was tossed aside by SISU in favour of 'branding rights and a new startup'. I do understand fans feelings either way. But 'historic' Coventry City has gone. That's a fact.
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The history of the club belongs to the fans. The day Coventry City beat wolves in 67 when we won the cup and every other game or even lost games Holdings Ltd or any other entity weren't there I was and other supporters were its OUR history.
 
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limoncello

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #181
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
The history of the club belongs to the fans. The day Coventry City beat wolves in 67 when we won the cup and every other game or even lost games Holdings Ltd or any other entity weren't there I was and other supporters were its OUR history.
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There's an old philosophical debate that pertains to this. Say you've got a boat. Over time due to wear and tear or whatever, every single part of the boat is replaced. Is it still the same boat? Most people agree that it is. Now say that boat is sunk and a new boat is built with the same name - is that the same boat? In my opinion, no it is not.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #182
limoncello said:
There's an old philosophical debate that pertains to this. Say you've got a boat. Over time due to wear and tear or whatever, every single part of the boat is replaced. Is it still the same boat? Most people agree that it is. Now say that boat is sunk and a new boat is built with the same name - is that the same boat? In my opinion, no it is not.
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Like Triggers broom in Fools and Horses
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #183
limoncello said:
There's an old philosophical debate that pertains to this. Say you've got a boat. Over time due to wear and tear or whatever, every single part of the boat is replaced. Is it still the same boat? Most people agree that it is. Now say that boat is sunk and a new boat is built with the same name - is that the same boat? In my opinion, no it is not.
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But of course the boat is a tangible item, what is the tangible item that makes a football club? is it the Golden Share, if so I'd never heard of it until this mess started so maybe a football club doesn't fit the old philosophical debate.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jan 26, 2014
  • #184
limoncello said:
There's an old philosophical debate that pertains to this. Say you've got a boat. Over time due to wear and tear or whatever, every single part of the boat is replaced. Is it still the same boat? Most people agree that it is. Now say that boat is sunk and a new boat is built with the same name - is that the same boat? In my opinion, no it is not.
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How many HMS Coventrys were there each one was still HMS Coventry:thinking about:
 
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