Grendel
Well-Known Member
The NSC is the manufacturer Tony
Again that's different to what you just said in another post. You said, and I quote "Would you bollocks -you'd go to the local retailer who'd then deal with the issue in consultation with the manufacturer". I've just agreed with that and I'm apparently still wrong. You've completely lost the plot. Go and have a lie down and have a long hard think about your life. There's a good fellow.
Essentially yes. The law states that you have a 30 day right to a full refund. After this you can either get a replacement or refund less fair wear and tear up to 6 months after the purchase. This is a contract in law with the retailer, this only changes if the manufacturer and retailer are the same.That is essentially a load of waffle around the 30 day rule which is also in effect covered
What you need to ask yourself is this - you buy a car from Scotland and take it down to Cornwall where you live and then it develops issues.
Where do you think the customer takes the car - Scotland?
My sympathies.
(unless it's an Evo)
The NSC is the manufacturer Tony
Essentially yes. The law states that you have a 30 day right to a full refund. After this you can either get a replacement or refund less fair wear and tear up to 6 months after the purchase. This is a contract in law with the retailer, this only changes if the manufacturer and retailer are the same.
I work in the industry, the retailer has less rights than the customer. If you have a fault you can return the goods within 30 days for a full refund that is fact and I have first hand experience of it happening. What is being confused on this thread is the difference between goods and a service. The law is the law and your rights are backed and enforced by trading standards.In reality you actually can't can you. In fact even the 30 day rule is difficult as the legal refund obligation states something does it not? Something which the consumer site you have copied that from omits to say which makes any obligation beyond 30 days abject nonsense.
I've provided a link from the you gov site. That's the reality and that's what always happens.
In reality you actually can't can you. In fact even the 30 day rule is difficult as the legal refund obligation states something does it not? Something which the consumer site you have copied that from omits to say which makes any obligation beyond 30 days abject nonsense.
I've provided a link from the you gov site. That's the reality and that's what always happens.
Utter bollocks from Grendel as usual.When I am I will but as usual I am not - this is a 30 day rule which had some effect but is dealt with
Ironic anyway as you made a whole day yesterday of throwing a sisu defender line out and after much flannel and waffle had to admit you'd made it up.
Aggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
That was aimed at this thread.
I am losing the will to live, so will go to the hallway, take my coat off the peg gently and quietly back out of the room disappearing into the night.
I work in the industry, the retailer has less rights than the customer. If you have a fault you can return the goods within 30 days for a full refund that is fact and I have first hand experience of it happening. What is being confused on this thread is the difference between goods and a service. The law is the law and your rights are backed and enforced by trading standards.
I'm waiting for him to expand on his electronics stores still. As in Curry's that I mentioned. They tried like Grendel to tell me what the law is. But I knew what it was. The store manager admitted I was right. I got a full refund.The link you've provided is specifically about goods that aren't fit for purpose. It's also dated 2012. The consumers act came into force in 2015 so also supersedes the link you provided in any case.
Sssshh! It's funny. Grendull is disproving his own point to make a point. It don't get better than that.
So who has said it is the fault of CCFC?Well no because CCFC clearly from all this discussion have no obligation at all.
It is now beyond doubt ACL's responsibility as to quote senior Vick the "manufacturer and the retailer are the same" they are - they are ACL and ccfc have no influence or fault in the matter
I'm waiting for him to expand on his electronics stores still. As in Curry's that I mentioned. They tried like Grendel to tell me what the law is. But I knew what it was. The store manager admitted I was right. I got a full refund.
And I had another one from the same store. I had an actifry that packed up on the last day of the warranty. I went just before closing time. They said nobody was available as it was closing time. I went back a few days later. They told me it was out of warranty. But knowing the laws that I stated they took it off me and got it repaired. It had the same problem about 6 months later. They said nothing could be done. I told them it was an unsatisfactory repair. They got it fixed again.
He'll never back down. You do know that don't you.Sssshh! It's funny. Grendull is disproving his own point to make a point. It don't get better than that.
You don't defend them.....do youOf course you did - next you will ne telling me that people on here defend sisu. Oh that was yesterday's tale.
So who has said it is the fault of CCFC?
More like you are insinuating that they have to take the heat away from most knowing that you are bullshitting.
You don't defend them.....do you
So what did I say then? More like have a go at anyone who has a go at them. If you want to call that defending them then so be it. It is what you do all the time.
Well no because CCFC clearly from all this discussion have no obligation at all.
It is now beyond doubt ACL's responsibility as to quote senior Vick the "manufacturer and the retailer are the same" they are - they are ACL and ccfc have no influence or fault in the matter
Really? Where does it say ACL/IEC have an obligation or responsibility to provide hot food to all occupied areas on CCFC match days exactly? They're under less obligation than CCFC as it's CCFC who have sold you your match day experience not ACL/IEC.
Senior Vick said and I quote "This is a contract in law with the retailer, this only changes if the manufacturer and retailer are the same".
Another example of you bullshitting and twisting peoples words. Also ACL aren't a manufacturer, the are a service provider. Something else Senior Vick has pointed out that you've chosen to ignore.
Where does it say CCFC have an obligation to supply hot food? Is the matchday experience sold with the promise of hot food being available? The hot food has been taken away by IEC. The club inform fans and say it's out their hands. Fans then turn on club demanding answers to something that is out their hands.
Still, you think all energy should be focused on SISU. So it's of little surprise. Only once have you challenged the ACL/CCC/IEC/Wasps/Higgs cartel when news of the academy situation broke. A quick don't look at us, look at SISU and you're back on the SISU out hype.
I was feeling really crap until I read this thread, best laugh I've had for ages. Ignore Otis guys, keep it up, only thing I don't understand is where's Nick gone?
You should come to me then. I know everything.I've got no idea about selling laws so I'm lost!
Hello GrendelYou should come to me then. I know everything.
I used to work at a car dealership and at a supermarket and at Curry's and for a boiler manufacturer and doing football hospitality.
I am an expert in everything.
Acl are the provider of this service which is entirely their operation
Unless I am mistaken this refers to the selection of food that can be purchased by customers over and above the corporate package agreed.
Ccfc cannot import additional food and beverage to sell. Effectively compass and acl are service provider and "manufacturer" - the club is powerless to actually offer any alternative
I defend the club on this totally.
I've got no idea about selling laws so I'm lost!
I'll help you out. What make of car do you own?
And why some elements don't like them.An early contender for thread of the year. Next up, Why Weetabix are classed as biscuits for tax purposes.
Audi, why?
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