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The one that got away...Big Nathan Cameron?! (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter LJC_CCFC
  • Start date Nov 19, 2014
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LJC_CCFC

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #1
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3269...ague-clubs-ready-to-move-for-bury-duo-cameron
 

italiahorse

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #2
Listen to the Football League show and see how many got away.
Or wait for the film "Great Escape 2"
 
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Smudge1987

New Member
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #3
But we've got Webster. Why would you want a young promising CB instead.....
 

Rusty Trombone

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #4
He was better up front than at the back, and he wasn't good up front.
 

italiahorse

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #5
Rusty Trombone said:
He was better up front than at the back, and he wasn't good up front.
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Seems once they leave here they achieve their full ability.
When they come here they rarely recover from the experience.
 

Rusty Trombone

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #6
italiahorse said:
Seems once they leave here they achieve their full ability.
When they come here they rarely recover from the experience.
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If Cameron plays a game for a Premier league team it will prove beyond doubt that it is the most overrated league in the world.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #7
Can't see it tbh, I reckon around L1 is his level. Not good enough technically to play higher where all centre backs are expected to be comfortable receiving and passing the ball.

I'd have him back here though.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #8
LJC_CCFC said:
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3269...ague-clubs-ready-to-move-for-bury-duo-cameron
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Seeing as they said he joined Bury from us this summer, not so sure that they have their eye on the ball.

Ironically, rather like Cameron when playing for us in defence.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #9
italiahorse said:
Seems once they leave here they achieve their full ability.
When they come here they rarely recover from the experience.
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Bigiamara?
 

lordsummerisle

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #10
Grendel said:
Bigiamara?
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Seven ACL's Bigimirana?
 

Evo1883

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #11
Be honest though , you would rather him than webster atm
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #12
CraigSBA said:
Be honest though , you would rather him than webster atm
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But will Cameron have a career going into his 50's like Webster has managed?
 

steveo1987

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #13
Camerons got a 50p head
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #14
What happened to Shaun Jeffers, didn't he score against us and it was like we got rid of Ronaldo or something?
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #15
Nick said:
What happened to Shaun Jeffers, didn't he score against us and it was like we got rid of Ronaldo or something?
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I believe he's playing in the conference north for Brackley Town, on loan from L2 Newport county. Peterborough signed him last aug, but offloaded him to Newport in Jan, I hadn't realised he'd moved.


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Calista

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  • Nov 19, 2014
  • #16
I thought Nathan had HUGE potential, maybe even international, when he first got in the team as a young lad. It was so disappointing how badly he played in his second season, but (assuming the article is accurate) I’m well pleased that his ability is coming out again and he might get a chance to play at the top.

The list of players we have allowed to slip through our fingers in the last 7 years, when compared to what we now have, is heart-breaking.
 

ccfcway

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #17
Norman Lockhart said:
The list of players we have allowed to slip through our fingers in the last 7 years, when compared to what we now have, is heart-breaking.
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--------------------McGoldrick-------Wilson---------------------
----------------------------Moussa-------------------------------
------------Gunnarson--------------Baker-----------------------
Fox-----------------------------------------------Christie--------
---------------Turner-----Dann-------Keogh--------------------
-------------------------Westwood-------------------------------
 
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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #18
Norman Lockhart said:
I thought Nathan had HUGE potential, maybe even international, when he first got in the team as a young lad. It was so disappointing how badly he played in his second season, but (assuming the article is accurate) I’m well pleased that his ability is coming out again and he might get a chance to play at the top.

The list of players we have allowed to slip through our fingers in the last 7 years, when compared to what we now have, is heart-breaking.
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Think this is a tad over the top. NC performed well in our last Champ season, though like Jordan Clarke, I think he went backwards in his first league 1 season and got the chop on the back of that. Premier League is ridiculous talk but currently, I think he would be an ever present if still here.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #19
ccfcway said:
--------------------McGoldrick-------Wilson---------------------
----------------------------Moussa-------------------------------
------------Gunnarson--------------Baker-----------------------
Fox-----------------------------------------------Christie--------
---------------Turner-----Dann-------Keogh--------------------
-------------------------Westwood-------------------------------
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Mid table with SP as manager
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #20
Astute said:
Mid table with SP as manager
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Your lads up early this morning
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #21
I used to work with a Bury fan. Their dream centre back pairing of Cameron and Edje leaked goals. He didn't think much of either.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #22
Nick said:
Your lads up early this morning
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Yeah the little bugger. Should have been getting ready for school
 

stupot07

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #23
ccfcway said:
--------------------McGoldrick-------Wilson---------------------
----------------------------Moussa-------------------------------
------------Gunnarson--------------Baker-----------------------
Fox-----------------------------------------------Christie--------
---------------Turner-----Dann-------Keogh--------------------
-------------------------Westwood-------------------------------
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If we're including mcgoldrick (loan signing), there's got to be a couple of better midfielders than baker and moussa that left us, Jay Tabb for one.


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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #24
Funnily enough, the only decent game I witnessed from Cameron was at Gigg lane against Bury a couple years back.....

think it was the first game after Mark "full of shit & sky blue blood" Robins jumped ship.....

we won 2-0 & he was pretty much perfect for the full 90mins.....
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #25
ccfcway said:
--------------------McGoldrick-------Wilson---------------------
----------------------------Moussa-------------------------------
------------Gunnarson--------------Henderson-----------------------
Fox-----------------------------------------------Christie--------
---------------Turner-----Dann-------Keogh--------------------
-------------------------Westwood-------------------------------
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Baker over Henderson? Are you crazy?
 
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KersleyDigs

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #26
--------------------------Westwood
------------Keogh-------Dann------Turner
Christie----------------------------------------------Fox
---------------Gunnarson-------Bigi-----------------
------------------------------Tabb---------------------------
------------------Wilson-----------Juke-----------------

Championship winning team right there. Losing them all was part of SISU ' S 'long term vision' though. 100 year promotion plan is still on course under their wonderful regime......
 

LJC_CCFC

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #27
KersleyDigs said:
--------------------------Westwood
------------Keogh-------Dann------Turner
Christie----------------------------------------------Fox
---------------Gunnarson-------Bigi-----------------
------------------------------Tabb---------------------------
------------------Wilson-----------Juke-----------------

Championship winning team right there. Losing them all was part of SISU ' S 'long term vision' though. 100 year promotion plan is still on course under their wonderful regime......
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DMC, King and Besty before Wilson and Juke tbh.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #28
LJC_CCFC said:
DMC, King and Besty before Wilson and Juke tbh.
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Juke isn't even that good, surprised Burnley went in for him. Just looked decent for us next to Platt.
 

LJC_CCFC

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #29
CCFC said:
Juke isn't even that good, surprised Burnley went in for him. Just looked decent for us next to Platt.
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I think Dyche wanted another big man to go with Ings as Vokes was injured, but certainly not Prem quality. Did alright for Bolton at the back end of last season though.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #30
KersleyDigs said:
--------------------------Westwood
------------Keogh-------Dann------Turner
Christie----------------------------------------------Fox
---------------Gunnarson-------Bigi-----------------
------------------------------Tabb---------------------------
------------------Wilson-----------Juke-----------------

Championship winning team right there. Losing them all was part of SISU ' S 'long term vision' though. 100 year promotion plan is still on course under their wonderful regime......
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These points must have been raised a million times but here we go again:

Westwood - Wanted to move on, wasn't interested in staying.
Keogh - Wasn't staying with us after relegation to League 1
Dann - £4.5M for a Championship CB in 2008 was a lot of money, I probably would have accepted it as well, Good deal for he Club.
Turner - Sold after the cost cutting began, at the time was an average deal.
Christie - Wanted to move on.
Gunnarson - Wanted to move on.
Bigi - Overhyped, we got a good deal for him in my view.
Tabb - I liked JT, I thought it wasn't a great move that he left, but Reading were pushing for Premier League at the time, why wouldn't he want to jump ship?
Wilson - In our situation when Cal was sold, it was a good deal for the Club especially if he kicks on again and gets a bigger move (no offence to Ballmouth).
Juke - Stupid sale.

Out of all of the above names you mentioned Juke is the only sale I would criticise, the other players either didn't want to stay it the Club received suitable offers.

With respect to Nathan Cameron though I thought he played pretty decent under Aidy Boothroyd, but after Mark Robins turned up on the scene he seemed to dwindle out..

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Calista

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #31
Robo, saying all those players “wanted to move on” only reinforces the point. Why did they want to go? In managing a football club, you can create an upward spiral or a downward spiral. Good players naturally want to leave when they see the constant sale of other good players. I suspect all of them would have been happy to stay at an ambitious CCFC.

Letting Cameron go was a different sort of blinkered policy – a failure to realise the potential of a young player we had brought through.

Either way, our recovery can never happen until we draw a line in the sand and start holding on to the good ‘uns.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #32
Norman Lockhart said:
Robo, saying all those players “wanted to move on” only reinforces the point. Why did they want to go? In managing a football club, you can create an upward spiral or a downward spiral. Good players naturally want to leave when they see the constant sale of other good players. I suspect all of them would have been happy to stay at an ambitious CCFC.

Letting Cameron go was a different sort of blinkered policy – a failure to realise the potential of a young player we had brought through.

Either way, our recovery can never happen until we draw a line in the sand and start holding on to the good ‘uns.
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More money....
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #33
Norman Lockhart said:
I thought Nathan had HUGE potential, maybe even international, when he first got in the team as a young lad.
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Remember seeing him in the youth team, and he was head and shoulders the stand out player.

Now of course that was partly down to physique and being stronger than the other kids but... was also convinced he'd make it.

Not just us it didn't work out with, Northampton took him on loan but he didn;t end up there so... maybe a move was for the best for everybody.
 
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #34
Norman Lockhart said:
Robo, saying all those players “wanted to move on” only reinforces the point. Why did they want to go? In managing a football club, you can create an upward spiral or a downward spiral. Good players naturally want to leave when they see the constant sale of other good players. I suspect all of them would have been happy to stay at an ambitious CCFC.

Letting Cameron go was a different sort of blinkered policy – a failure to realise the potential of a young player we had brought through.

Either way, our recovery can never happen until we draw a line in the sand and start holding on to the good ‘uns.
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That can be the case NL, but with the likes of Westwood and Gunnarson it wasn't the case at all, Westwood said he wanted to play in the Premier League way before he inevitably joined Sunderland..


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Chipfat

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  • Nov 20, 2014
  • #35
I don't think the Wilson deal was good for the club in anyway shape or form,, it paid for lawyers costs and 3 very sub standard players in return.. Of which 1 didn't want to come, 1 has already gone back and another who is a GK learning a trade at out expense.. That move was stupid short sighted and alone should be getting SW the boot, as for the others brought in on the back of CW none is or have been pulling up any trees or making fans run to watch..
 
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