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The old "budget" argument (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Evo1883
  • Start date Jan 21, 2017
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #1
doesnt hold value at Coventry city , when you have to rebuild a side from virtually nothing every single season are people really surprised we are performing noticeably worse than what our budget say we should be ?
I see some city fans mostly on here bang on about the budget using it as an argument (mostly against tony Mowbray) as to why we shouldn't be performing as bad as we do 99% of the time .

We recruit and release players on MASS every single season , therefore have zero stability throughout the squad , we do not retain out better players either .
Most clubs in this division usually retain a certain amount of first team players and build around them with their remaining budget with less players to replace hence the risk is far lower .
Our budget is cut every year so the players we recruit and the amount we add to the first team will always mean the risk of having a few bad apples is significantly higher...why can't fans see this ????
It's easier to replace 3-4 players than it is to replace 10- 18 like we appear to lose every year , some teams may lose a lot of players every few years , but we do it EVERY YEAR .


The model this club uses might work to make the club break even , but the model it uses in the footballing world is absolutely not working whatsoever , and nothing will change until we sign better players on longer contracts and try and retain them over a period of 2-3 years .

If nothing changes our experience in league 2 will be just as painful as it has been in league 1
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #2
Depends on what the budget actually is. Many would have you believe it was top half of the table prior to Tim confessing it wasn't. Even then he wasn't that clear. Our position could be the perfect reflection of the budget. Couple that together with the fact that the amount of rebuilding we have to do every summer and the budget probably goes even less distance with all the fees that seem to go hand in hand with every signing these days.
 
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lapsed_skyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #3
Timmy is running the club on cashflow which is worse than a "budget".
Cashflow projections on gate receipts, profit sharing on F&B, next season's season ticket sales must be dire. Even if there is a pick-up in results there is unlikely to be a significant boost to these receipts as at best it will be a relegation fight that looks increasingly more difficult.
So, the only way to achieve his positive cashflow requirements is to cut the wage bill and sell players, replacing them with cheaper.
He will know the likelihood of the owner injecting further funds (officially no chance) but also be mindful that if he raises significant sums from player sales that it will be "absorbed" out of his hands.
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #4
They key is actually consistently spending the budget well..... It doesn't appear to have happened
 
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Brylowes

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #5
oldskyblue58 said:
They key is actually consistently spending the budget well..... It doesn't appear to have happened
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Our budget has to stretch to far, most clubs have stability their budget strengthens their
Team in the positions needed, then add some squad players into the mix.
We on the other hand have a complete re-build on our hands every season, almost as
Though the powers that be are trying to avoid success at any cost.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #6
Most now actually do accept that the budget is a lot lower than they thought it was.
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #7
dongonzalos said:
Most now actually do accept that the budget is a lot lower than they thought it was.
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Is it the lowest in the league?

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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #8
dongonzalos said:
Most now actually do accept that the budget is a lot lower than they thought it was.
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Most accept the budget argument is pointless as most clubs (including us) will be operating within the 60% salary cap.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #9
stupot07 said:
Is it the lowest in the league?

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No it is in the lower portion of the league.
We are under performing for our budget we should be in the bottom half of the league but not in relegation
However last season we did just as our budget allowed us. We were underperforming due to having one of the best budgets as many made out
 

letsallsingtogether

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #10
stupot07 said:
Is it the lowest in the league?

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Who knows?
Most believed it was in he top 10 we now know it is nowhere near that.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #11
oldskyblue58 said:
They key is actually consistently spending the budget well..... It doesn't appear to have happened
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It's also important not to piss off and alienate your fan base and do lots of other things that lead to diminishing attendances. That then shrinks the budget
 
Last edited: Jan 22, 2017

letsallsingtogether

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #12
Grendel said:
Most accept the budget argument is pointless as most clubs (including us) will be operating within the 60% salary cap.
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Yes most clubs those that don't succeed those that do don't.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 21, 2017
  • #13
letsallsingtogether said:
Yes most clubs those that don't succeed those that do don't.
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I wouldn't know the wage structure in most clubs to make such a statement
 
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