The last 10 Coventry City managers (1 Viewer)

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

List them in order of personal preference (or of least rubbishness).

Mcallister, Black, Reid, Adams, Dowie, Boothroyd, Coleman, Thorn, Robins, Pressley.

1. Robins
2. Black
3. Adams
4. Dowie
5. Pressley
6. Boothroyd
7. Coleman
8. Reid
9. McAllister
10.Thorn

skybluelee · Oct 23, 2014

1. Robins - we were excellent under him from October til he left (Promotion form), people forget this due to the manner that he left the club, although I would have done the same in his shoes
2. Dowie - Felt under him and Flowers that we were quite a competitive side, and he was a nice bloke to boot.
3. Black - entertainers!
4. McAllister - purely based on him as a player rather than manager
5. Pressley - been asked to operate in unworkable circumstances. Although is too stubborn.
6. Adams
7. Boothroyd
8. Thorn
9. Coleman
10.Reid

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Oct 23, 2014

id switch your top 2 but other then that seems about right. robins had championship team in league 1 eric black got a useless bunch and made them into a force hell he even managed to get richard shaw to score

Seaside-Skyblue · Oct 23, 2014

Agreed 100% with skyblueLee. Always liked Dowie and would have him back. Very passionate.

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

Just don't think Black was in the job long enough to truly rate him accurately.

We were in the same position as now, with us being outmuscled and not being physical enough. This is something that Black had identified though. He was sacked before he had chance to bring that type of player in.

SP needs to bring more physicality to this squad, especially in the middle of the park.

torchomatic · Oct 23, 2014

Pressley - I really like him, good with youth, has the right "philosophy", but not the backing from those above him. Think we should give him a chance.
Robins - Did well, but the way he left was shit
Black - Great for the short time he was here, who knows if that had carried on
Adams - Liked him, shame he didn't get more of a chance
Boothroyd - crap football but I liked him
Dowie - Shit signings and I didn't like him
Coleman - No idea
Thorn - He wasn't a manager and he didn't want to be one, but he was cheap and the fans wanted him.
Reid - Desperately Shit
McAllister - Appallingly shit

Otis said:
List them in order of personal preference (or of least rubbishness).

Mcallister, Black, Reid, Adams, Dowie, Boothroyd, Coleman, Thorn, Robins, Pressley.

1. Robins
2. Black
3. Adams
4. Dowie
5. Pressley
6. Boothroyd
7. Coleman
8. Reid
9. McAllister
10.Thorn

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

torchomatic said:
Pressley - I really like him, good with youth, has the right "philosophy", but not the backing from those above him. Think we should give him a chance.
Robins - Did well, but the way he left was shit
Black - Great for the short time he was here, who knows if that had carried on
Adams - Liked him, shame he didn't get more of a chance
Boothroyd - crap football but I liked him
Dowie - Shit signings and I didn't like him
Coleman - No idea
Thorn - He wasn't a manager and he didn't want to be one, but he was cheap and the fans wanted him.
Reid - Desperately Shit
McAllister - Appallingly shit

McAllister was truly dreadful wasn't he. Shocking.

torchomatic · Oct 23, 2014

UNbelievably rubbish. That's why I'm always surprised when we are looking for a new manager that many people on here go "ooh, get McAllister, he was great", er, he wasn't, he was rubbish. A shining example of a good player doesn't necessarily make a good manager. There are loads of examples, aren't there?

Otis said:
McAllister was truly dreadful wasn't he. Shocking.

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 23, 2014

Here's the stat's for the last 12 in date order

Manager	From	Until	W	D	L	Total	Win%
Steven Pressley	2013	Now	26	22	28	76	34.21
Mark Robins	2012	2013	17	6	10	33	51.52
Andy Thorn	2011	2012	13	20	27	60	21.67
Adrian Boothroyd	2010	2011	12	8	19	39	30.77
Chris Coleman	2008	2010	34	37	46	117	29.06
Iain Dowie	2007	2008	20	8	21	49	40.82
Micky Adams	2005	2007	33	26	40	99	33.33
Peter Reid	2004	2005	10	8	13	31	32.26
Eric Black	2003	2004	12	4	10	26	46.15
Gary McAllister	2002	2003	21	26	29	76	27.63
Roland Nilsson	2001	2002	19	6	18	43	44.19
Gordon Strachan	1996	2001	70	56	89	215	32.56

Courtesy of http://www.managerstats.co.uk/ make of that what you will! (I've ignored the interim managers.)

Edit: thought I would just add that apparently we change our managers on average after 79 games.

torchomatic · Oct 23, 2014

Three to go then....

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

McAllister had the 2nd worst record after Thorn then in win percentage.

Would give anything for Dowie's or Black's records now wouldn't we.

Chipfat · Oct 23, 2014

Black- Great coach.
Dowie-Liked his passion thought given time could of done a decent job
Robins- Got results, didn't leave well
Adams- Decent manager and was passionate about the club
Pressley- Talks a good good but unless time and money put his way will always be potential.
Bothroyd- Best of the remaining names and could of been decent,, good coach,, better motivator..

The rest all at 10 not one good manager between them,, if rolled into 1 you might have a decent manager...

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Oct 23, 2014

Dowie was the first time sisu screwed us i have no doubt had he stayed we would have beat west brom beat portsmouth and knowing us lost to cardiff at wembley in the fa cup final

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 23, 2014

Chipfat said:
Black- Great coach.
Dowie-Liked his passion thought given time could of done a decent job
Robins- Got results, didn't leave well
Adams- Decent manager and was passionate about the club
Pressley- Talks a good good but unless time and money put his way will always be potential.
Bothroyd- Best of the remaining names and could of been decent,, good coach,, better motivator..

The rest all at 10 not one good manager between them,, if rolled into 1 you might have a decent manager...

Wouldn't ague too much with your comments although I would add that Nilsson was also an effective manager, had great regard for the club, seemed to be well regarded by the players and his stats are certainly better than some you mention and after all this is a results orientated business, isn't it?

CJ_covblaze · Oct 23, 2014

torchomatic said:
Pressley - I really like him, good with youth, has the right "philosophy", but not the backing from those above him. Think we should give him a chance.
Robins - Did well, but the way he left was shit
Black - Great for the short time he was here, who knows if that had carried on
Adams - Liked him, shame he didn't get more of a chance
Boothroyd - crap football but I liked him
Dowie - Shit signings and I didn't like him
Coleman - No idea
Thorn - He wasn't a manager and he didn't want to be one, but he was cheap and the fans wanted him.
Reid - Desperately Shit
McAllister - Appallingly shit

A good asessment. Agree 100%.

SkyBlueCharlie said:
Here's the stat's for the last 12 in date order

Manager From Until W D L Total Win%
Steven Pressley 2013 Now 26 22 28 76 34.21
Mark Robins 2012 2013 17 6 10 33 51.52
Andy Thorn 2011 2012 13 20 27 60 21.67
Adrian Boothroyd 2010 2011 12 8 19 39 30.77
Chris Coleman 2008 2010 34 37 46 117 29.06
Iain Dowie 2007 2008 20 8 21 49 40.82
Micky Adams 2005 2007 33 26 40 99 33.33
Peter Reid 2004 2005 10 8 13 31 32.26
Eric Black 2003 2004 12 4 10 26 46.15
Gary McAllister 2002 2003 21 26 29 76 27.63
Roland Nilsson 2001 2002 19 6 18 43 44.19
Gordon Strachan 1996 2001 70 56 89 215 32.56

Courtesy of http://www.managerstats.co.uk/ make of that what you will! (I've ignored the interim managers.)

Edit: thought I would just add that apparently we change our managers on average after 79 games.

The three on this list I'd have back in a heartbeat are Adams, Nilsson and Black.

Dowie, Thorn, Reid, Coleman and Macca never in a million years.

The others I'm not bothered about either way.

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

Silence_Is_The_Enemy said:
Dowie was the first time sisu screwed us i have no doubt had he stayed we would have beat west brom beat portsmouth and knowing us lost to cardiff at wembley in the fa cup final

He said he was promised money to deal in the transfer market didn't he and it wasn't forthcoming.

stupot07 · Oct 23, 2014

Dowie's win % looks impressive but his record in the league was no better than Coleman's.

PL 43 W 15 D7 L 21 Win ratio 35% Loss ratio 49% 1.21 pts per game (55 over a season) - the points per game is almost identical to Coleman's 1.19 (54.5) and Adams - 1.26 pts per game (58).

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Otis · Oct 23, 2014

stupot07 said:
Dowie's win % looks impressive but his record in the league was no better than Coleman's.

PL 43 W 15 D7 L 21 Win ratio 35% Loss ratio 49% 1.21 pts per game (55 over a season) - the points per game is almost identical to Coleman's 1.19 (54.5) and Adams - 1.26 pts per game (58).

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As I said, can be described as a top 10 of least rubbishness.

Silence_Is_The_Enemy · Oct 23, 2014

lmao cj if adams comes back i think you might be the only one left in the ricoh

Jackoskyblue · Oct 23, 2014

Baring in mind I started coming to games from Micky Adams being in charge I would say that Robins was the best but the way he left alters the way I look back on his time. I'm going to get crucified for this but the most enjoyable times I've had watching the city was under Coleman (I mean by enjoyable as it didn't feel like a chore going to watch us) it was a great team but obviously our finishes didn't reflect that but i felt he could have took us on he just needed a kick up the bum by the sounds of it

stupot07 · Oct 23, 2014

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1. Robins

2. Black

3. Adams

4. Pressley

5. Dowie

6. Coleman

7. Boothroyd

8. Reid

9. McAllister

10.Thorn

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SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 23, 2014

I think that one of the things that comes out of this is, Robins apart, we haven't had a single recent manager that has got anywhere near the 50% win rate. Compare that with the performance such as Wenger, Ferguson, Martinez, Mourinho who consistently achieve that where ever they are. (Even Moyes was well over 50% at Man. U.)

It shouldn't need saying, but I will any way, that good managers. at any level. get the very best out of the players that they have to work with and good managers are found by club officials that understand football.

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

SkyBlueCharlie said:
I think that one of the things that comes out of this is, Robins apart, we haven't had a single recent manager that has got anywhere near the 50% win rate. Compare that with the performance such as Wenger, Ferguson, Martinez, Mourinho who consistently achieve that where ever they are. (Even Moyes was well over 50% at Man. U.)

It shouldn't need saying, but I will any way, that good managers. at any level. get the very best out of the players that they have to work with and good managers are found by club officials that understand football.

And as we slide down the leagues we still don't get near the 50%.

There must be a level somwhere that we will eventually slide too that will see a percentage of more than 50%

malkitccfc · Oct 23, 2014

1. Robins
2. Adams
3. Black
4. Dowie
5. Pressley
6. Boothroyd
7. Coleman
8. Thorn
9. McAllister
10.Reid

covcity4life · Oct 23, 2014

i hated robins when he left but now i keep imagining what might have been.

SkyBlueCharlie · Oct 23, 2014

Otis said:
And as we slide down the leagues westill don't get near the 50%.

There must be a level somwhere that we will eventually slide too that will see a percentage of more than 50%

The problem is, apart from George Curtis (and Robins) we have never got near the 50% mark, even JH only (???) got 44%. Another thing when you compare Pressley's performance with the other League one managers then he is in the middle of the pack, I really don't know what that proves.

Leamington Pete · Oct 23, 2014

Otis said:
And as we slide down the leagues westill don't get near the 50%.

There must be a level somwhere that we will eventually slide too that will see a percentage of more than 50%

At last, something to look forward to.

Otis · Oct 23, 2014

covcity4life said:
i hated robins when he left but now i keep imagining what might have been.

Can't quite explain it, but I always felt we were in safe hands with Robins. A very steady, no nonsense manager. If he had stayed I think we would be in a much better position than we have been under Pressley.

Evo1883 · Oct 23, 2014

Pressleys record is slightly off on that
he has Now Played 80 won 27 drew 22 lost 31 33.6% win ratio

ccfc92 · Oct 23, 2014

SkyBlueCharlie said:
Here's the stat's for the last 12 in date order

Manager From Until W D L Total Win%
Steven Pressley 2013 Now 26 22 28 76 34.21
Mark Robins 2012 2013 17 6 10 33 51.52
Andy Thorn 2011 2012 13 20 27 60 21.67
Adrian Boothroyd 2010 2011 12 8 19 39 30.77
Chris Coleman 2008 2010 34 37 46 117 29.06
Iain Dowie 2007 2008 20 8 21 49 40.82
Micky Adams 2005 2007 33 26 40 99 33.33
Peter Reid 2004 2005 10 8 13 31 32.26
Eric Black 2003 2004 12 4 10 26 46.15
Gary McAllister 2002 2003 21 26 29 76 27.63
Roland Nilsson 2001 2002 19 6 18 43 44.19
Gordon Strachan 1996 2001 70 56 89 215 32.56

Courtesy of http://www.managerstats.co.uk/ make of that what you will! (I've ignored the interim managers.)

Edit: thought I would just add that apparently we change our managers on average after 79 games.

Going by that, Dowie was pretty good. Same with Robins, but he had less games, same with Black and Nilsson.

The Lurker · Oct 23, 2014

covcity4life said:
i hated robins when he left but now i keep imagining what might have been.

bit like that fit bird you shagged but bombed you off.

Leicesterfox · Oct 23, 2014

McAllister was a great player for us in a shocking side . Having said that wouldn't want him managing at the KP

SkyBlue_Bear83 · Oct 23, 2014

Robins
Black
Adams
Dowie
Boothroyd
Pressley
Thorn
Coleman
Reid

nicksig · Oct 23, 2014

1. Robins
2. Black
3. Adams
4. Dowie
5. Boothroyd
6. Coleman
7. Reid
8. McAllister
9. Thorn
10. Pressley

Sick Boy · Oct 23, 2014

nicksig said:
1. Robins
2. Black
3. Adams
4. Dowie
5. Boothroyd
6. Coleman
7. Reid
8. McAllister
9. Thorn
10. Pressley

how is thorn a better manager than pressley?

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