cc84cov
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What fee was agreed ?
What fee was agreed ?The deal had been done between the clubs and personal terms agreed
He was injured the next day before he was able to have his medical at Leeds
Very sad all round
I believe around £2m plus additionalsWhat fee was agreed ?
I don't think we need to worry about this. We've kept him on the books for several years with multiple serious injuries. Can't see any player avoiding the club on the basis of the way Jones has been treated.There’s also the CCFC branding to consider. Do we want to look like a club (to players who have a choice of who to sign for) who stands by through thick and thin (we did for 3 years) and then discards?
To be honest if a player is worried about being injured for 3 years then being cut loose - id he worried about said players injury record.I don't think we need to worry about this. We've kept him on the books for several years with multiple serious injuries. Can't see any player avoiding the club on the basis of the way Jones has been treated.
That must have been terrible - I don’t remember it being known amongst the fanbase at the time.The deal had been done between the clubs and personal terms agreed
He was injured the next day before he was able to have his medical at Leeds
Very sad all round
In some cases yes, in some no.
Looking at this case:
He’s had all the ACL damage that could ever happen and it’s unlikely to occur again.
He’s now got back to fitness for a while and looks useful.
He’s 24, not 29.
I still think some kind of retainer deal with and option was the way forward. It’s like if your car has a big crash, you spend all the money repairing it and then you give it away. That’s ridiculous, right? You either write it off at the outset or repair it and run it or repair it and sell it.
We’ve repaired JJ and now give him away.
I await “duh, you can’t compare a car to a person” dribble but I stand by my logic.
Jodi Jones was a great talent who was subject to bids by (Leeds?) pre ACL. If he gets back to his best (I think he will, he’s shown tremendous mental fortitude) then he’s a great asset.
We’ve given him away without trying to put some sensible / innovative plan in place to recoup our losses or bring him back to the first team by letting him go out on a decent length loan.
There’s also the CCFC branding to consider. Do we want to look like a club (to players who have a choice of who to sign for) who stands by through thick and thin (we did for 3 years) and then discards?
Bottom line, I just have a feeling that we may kick ourselves for throwing our cards in on Jones rather than risking just a very few more chips.
Jones was a standout player though unlike those two, you could see he had something about him and still can to an extent.The Leeds interest 5 years ago is not really a reason to keep him. He would have had a couple of loans, enjoyed a nice wage and returned back to League 1/2 like Stevenson and Harries. The ones with exceptional talent like Maddison progress.
Yes but still feel would have been exactly the same result. You have to remember season before he rarely started in our relegated League 1 side.Jones was a standout player though unlike those two, you could see he had something about him and still can to an extent.
£2m is more than they paid for some of the players in their current PL team.
There’s also the CCFC branding to consider. Do we want to look like a club (to players who have a choice of who to sign for) who stands by through thick and thin (we did for 3 years) and then discards?
He was about 18 and playing against yampy bogans. Players mature and fill out, he was in track.Yes but still feel would have been exactly the same result. You have to remember season before he rarely started in our relegated League 1 side.
Don’t underestimate the power of peer reference, in any line of industry.I don’t think any new players would care tbh. Most if not all will never have heard of him
Right okay…for what reasons would he feel harshly treated by during his time here?Don’t underestimate the power of peer reference, in any line of industry.
That’s tragic. Really really hope he smashes it in league one then signs for a good championship teamThe deal had been done between the clubs and personal terms agreed
He was injured the next day before he was able to have his medical at Leeds
Very sad all round
Tbh it wouldn't affect any future player's decisions about whether òr not to joinDon’t underestimate the power of peer reference, in any line of industry.
Don’t underestimate the power of peer reference, in any line of industry.
Don’t underestimate the power of peer reference, in any line of industry.
The deal had been done between the clubs and personal terms agreed
He was injured the next day before he was able to have his medical at Leeds
Very sad all round
This is well worth another watch -This is a bit ridiculous.
We've stuck by him through three ACLs.
We've also been lauded by commentators, people within the industry and the national media for this as most clubs would've likely let him go years ago.
Regardless on my views on how well he's been handled this season, it's highly unlikely Jones would give a poor review of the club given it's played a massive part in ensuring he's in a position to even think about playing again for another club again.
This is a bit ridiculous.
We've stuck by him through three ACLs.
We've also been lauded by commentators, people within the industry and the national media for this as most clubs would've likely let him go years ago.
Regardless on my views on how well he's been handled this season, it's highly unlikely Jones would give a poor review of the club given it's played a massive part in ensuring he's in a position to even think about playing again for another club again.
I think that you underestimate how good he was.The Leeds interest 5 years ago is not really a reason to keep him. He would have had a couple of loans, enjoyed a nice wage and returned back to League 1/2 like Stevenson and Harries. The ones with exceptional talent like Maddison progress.
I think that you underestimate how good he was.
Jones was patently more talented than McNulty. I am staggered that you think they were comparable. McNulty was an effective League 2 goalscorer, but has done very little above that level and doesn't appear to have the skill to play any higher. I don't think he would have worked for us in League 1 and we got a great deal from Reading.I don’t think I do. It’s all conjuncture but I would rank his potential/talent similar to the other players I’ve listed. Tom Bayliss and McNulty looked great in League 2 too, got moves to Championship clubs and well…
If Jones hadn't had the injuries, and was still with us, he would be one if our most talented players now, on a level with Hamer, o'Hare, Gyokeres and Sheaf. He stood out in League 2 and was clearly well above that level.
Fair enough. It's a pity we will never know.While I respect your opinion I really don’t see that at all, with or without injuries.
Jones didn’t show anything special in league one, to suggest he’d be on the level of Hamer, O’Hare, Gyokeres and sheaf. He was Pacey and caused lower league cloggers problems, but doesn’t necessary suggest he’d be able to do the same at this levelJones was patently more talented than McNulty. I am staggered that you think they were comparable. McNulty was an effective League 2 goalscorer, but has done very little above that level and doesn't appear to have the skill to play any higher. I don't think he would have worked for us in League 1 and we got a great deal from Reading.
If Jones hadn't had the injuries, and was still with us, he would be one if our most talented players now, on a level with Hamer, o'Hare, Gyokeres and Sheaf. He stood out in League 2 and was clearly well above that level.
What happened was incredibly sad for him and a big blow for the club. I feel we have supported him. I suspect we thought there was a chance that he could fully recover or at least sufficiently to perform at this level, so that's why we kept hold if him until now. I can only imagine but don't know that the view is that he has not recovered enough to play consistently at this level. I am sure it is not through any doubts about his abilities.
I really hope he goes on to have a good career as he has been so unlucky. It's a shame it won't be with us.
Jones didn’t show anything special in league one, to suggest he’d be on the level of Hamer, O’Hare, Gyokeres and sheaf. He was Pacey and caused lower league cloggers problems, but doesn’t necessary suggest he’d be able to do the same at this level
I hope he goes on to have a good career, he’s been through a lot, unfortunately we’ve progressed quicker than expected
That is a consideration, but half of a good season in league two is hardly convincing evidence he’d be a star player in the championshipWas very young in our league one relegation season. Hard to tell. We may never know what he could've been.
Did you find out? Cause I was wondering the same thingshit, sorry, was meant for google, ffs
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