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shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #176
bigfatronssba said:
Robins wasn’t sacked to bring in a name
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Genuinely not sure if you’re trolling or insane at this point.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #177
shmmeee said:
Genuinely not sure if you’re trolling or insane at this point.
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The same can be said to you considering you were one of a few calling for Robins to be sacked.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #178
shmmeee said:
Genuinely not sure if you’re trolling or insane at this point.
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Mate shall we look at the Dasilva quote again
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #179
shmmeee said:
Genuinely not sure if you’re trolling or insane at this point.
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So let’s get this straight.

You think Robins was sacked specifically to bring in Lampard?

And his sacking had nothing to do with with results?
 
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quinn1971

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #180
GIMOC said:
I don’t think anyone has said sack Lampard but there has been no improvement under him based on the busy Christmas schedule

5 points from 12 against the opposition we’ve faced is not good enough
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how’s he supposed to improve that team, missed Clark today and we’re always going to miss wright, but he’s got some shocking players to work with, at least half that team today shouldn’t be starting
 
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Deity

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #181
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Deluded as usual, wanting him out doesn’t mean wanting sisu back. Just want an owner that knows what he’s doing unlike what we currently have
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #182
bigfatronssba said:
So let’s get this straight.

You think Robins was sacked specifically to bring in Lampard?

And his sacking had nothing to do with with results?
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I think results were a pretext yes. I think Lampard was lined up well before Robins. But that’s not the point. Once we’d decided to sack him we went for a name is the point. Doug gives me Ranson vibes but with less football knowledge.

I don’t want us to go back to 2009 CCFC. That’s been my entire point all along.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #183
shmmeee said:
I think results were a pretext yes. I think Lampard was lined up well before Robins. But that’s not the point. Once we’d decided to sack him we went for a name is the point. Doug gives me Ranson vibes but with less football knowledge.

I don’t want us to go back to 2009 CCFC. That’s been my entire point all along.
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Going for a name after we sacked Robins is not the same as sacking him for a name.

If you don’t want to go back to 2009, support Lampard and give him a chance. That’s my point
 

rob9872

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #184
Oh good GIMOCs back to post some negativity. Crawl back under your rock and have a shite new year.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #185
bigfatronssba said:
Going for a name after we sacked Robins is not the same as sacking him for a name.

If you don’t want to go back to 2009, support Lampard and give him a chance. That’s my point
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I said when he came I expected to see an improvement by Jan, not a revolution, but signs of progress. Players even just individuals upping their game, better patterns of play, more defensive solidity, anything to show he’s a positive impact on the team. I haven’t seen that. We’ve got worse in almost every area.

I don’t see the logic in throwing tens of millions and two years at someone who has given you no sign they’re up to the job.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #186
rob9872 said:
have a shite new year.
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that delightful turn of phrase made me laugh a lot
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #187
shmmeee said:
I said when he came I expected to see an improvement by Jan, not a revolution, but signs of progress. Players even just individuals upping their game, better patterns of play, more defensive solidity, anything to show he’s a positive impact on the team. I haven’t seen that. We’ve got worse in almost every area.

I don’t see the logic in throwing tens of millions and two years at someone who has given you no sign they’re up to the job.
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So do you think we should get rid of Lampard?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #188
Deity said:
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Soz Doug
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #189
bigfatronssba said:
Can you give an example of such an owner?
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Well for a start every club in the top half of our league
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #190
bigfatronssba said:
So do you think we should get rid of Lampard?
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Im on the fence. At the moment I wouldn’t spend a penny on him until he’s shown some level of ability.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #191
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Well for a start every club in the top half of our league
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So owners like Blackburn and Sheffield Wednesday have?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #192
shmmeee said:
Im on the fence. At the moment I wouldn’t spend a penny on him until he’s shown some level of ability.
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How do you expect him to improve a team without money?
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #193
bigfatronssba said:
How do you expect him to improve a team without money?
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Coaching. Tactics. Motivation. All the stuff you have a manager for. FFS Robins got us from L2 for a packet of polos and a safety pin.
 
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fatso

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #194
shmmeee said:
Im on the fence. At the moment I wouldn’t spend a penny on him until he’s shown some level of ability.
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If your not going to.back him financially, why bother bringing him in?

You can't expect him to some how, miraculously turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #195
bigfatronssba said:
How do you expect him to improve a team without money?
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Reading your posts is like watching Inspector Clouseau at work
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #196
MAFF said:
I think it’s clear now most of the players just aren’t good enough. It’s not on Robins or Lampard.
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Two points of order:

1 - the quality of players in this current squad most definitely is on Robins

2 - the whole point of replacing Robins is the belief that another manager can get better results from the same set of players. If Lampard can’t do that, then that’s definitely on him
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #197
fatso said:
If your not going to.back him financially, why bother bringing him in?

You can't expect him to some how, miraculously turn a sow's ear into a silk purse.
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Because you think he’s going to do better than the guy you’ve sacked?

By this logic why not keep robins and back him in Jan? Why sack any manager ever and not just give them more money?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #198
shmmeee said:
Coaching. Tactics. Motivation. All the stuff you have a manager for. FFS Robins got us from L2 for a packet of polos and a safety pin.
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Robins was allowed to bring in a whole new team.

The shower of shite he inherited wouldn’t have achieved what he did
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #199
SBT said:
Two points of order:

1 - the quality of players in this current squad most definitely is on Robins

2 - the whole point of replacing Robins is the belief that another manager can get better results from the same set of players. If Lampard can’t do that, then that’s definitely on him
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We can quibble about Austin/ Robins on point one, but same difference I guess, and I’d say this is the most sense anyone has uttered all afternoon
 

GIMOC

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #200
rob9872 said:
Oh good GIMOCs back to post some negativity. Crawl back under your rock and have a shite new year.
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tell what’s been positive over the past 2 games?
 

bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #201
GIMOC said:
tell what’s been positive over the past 2 games?
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Dovin
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #202
quinn1971 said:
how’s he supposed to improve that team, missed Clark today and we’re always going to miss wright, but he’s got some shocking players to work with, at least half that team today shouldn’t be starting
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isn’t that the point of Lampard to come in?
That’s what king said. he’s bought in Lampard to change things

nothing has changed

we’re on the points king didn’t want at Christmas/newyear

whole point of a coach is to improve things
 

GIMOC

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #203
bigfatronssba said:
Dovin
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you clutching straws then

he’s done everything you’d expect from a keeper

we’ve played 2 poor teams who didn’t really make him do much so you saying that proves my point
 

peteCCFC

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #204
half the issue is that stupid fucking hat
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #205
GIMOC said:
you clutching straws then

he’s done everything you’d expect from a keeper

we’ve played 2 poor teams who didn’t really make him do much so you saying that proves my point
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Harsh. Thought he was good today and saved us a couple of goals.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #206
GIMOC said:
you clutching straws then

he’s done everything you’d expect from a keeper

we’ve played 2 poor teams who didn’t really make him do much so you saying that proves my point
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We’d have lost today with Collins in goal
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #207
bigfatronssba said:
So let’s get this straight.

You think Robins was sacked specifically to bring in Lampard?

And his sacking had nothing to do with with results?
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I think doug thinks the idea of a big name brings more attention to the club , potentially more investment and it improves our standing in the world of football
 
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GIMOC

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #208
So a keeper making saves you’d expect is now a positive?

says it all
 

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #209
GIMOC said:
tell what’s been positive over the past 2 games?
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I'm still alive.
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jan 1, 2025
  • #210
shmmeee said:
Coaching. Tactics. Motivation. All the stuff you have a manager for. FFS Robins got us from L2 for a packet of polos and a safety pin.
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robins wouldn’t play EMC, lampards turned him into one of our best players ?
 
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