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  • Start date Jul 27, 2023
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #36
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I did say right after the final that I wished we hadn't got through to it if losing like that were the outcome. As it happens, getting that close has obviously helped us attract higher calibre players for less up front cash because promotion clauses are seen to be worth accepting.

So I'm quite glad to be wrong!
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I've got to be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the "we won't get another chance like that again for years" sentiment.

I think players are looking at us now and see a club that was one penalty kick away from the premier league. That final hurt like hell, but other than getting promoted, that was the absolute best way to end a season
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #37
bigfatronssba said:
I've got to be honest, I didn't understand a lot of the "we won't get another chance like that again for years" sentiment.

I think players are looking at us now and see a club that was one penalty kick away from the premier league. That final hurt like hell, but other than getting promoted, that was the absolute best way to end a season
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Well for starters I think it's very unlikely that only one relegated club makes the top 6 like last season, all seem in stronger positions. What's clear though is that through the Gyo sale, Wasps bankruptcy, King takeover and a bumper ST sale, the club's in the best health it's been in for several decades.
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #38
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well for starters I think it's very unlikely that only one relegated club makes the top 6 like last season, all seem in stronger positions. What's clear though is that through the Gyo sale, Wasps bankruptcy, King takeover and a bumper ST sale, the club's in the best health it's been in for several decades.
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I expect one of the relegated clubs to get autos, one will be in and around the play offs (may or may not get top 6), one will be mid table.

Either way, I still expect us to be challenging next year
 
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Johhny Blue

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #39
Skybluedownunder said:
And we fixed the broken window, happy days


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Triple glazed
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Jul 27, 2023
  • #40
It’s refreshing to see we are investing the money wisely on young up and coming players on long contracts.
 
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Finham

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #41
Of course, the signings need time to settle in and they won't all come off...
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #42
Evo1883 said:
Imagine a window where we sign 10 permanent players
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It'll be more won't it, fairly confident Robins mention of Ten was after going to Portugal and possibly also post Labuatiere.
 
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SkyBlueMatt

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #43
Cannot wait to belt out the Doug king song first game of the season.


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wingy

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #44
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Like a lot of people I was OK with Gyokeres leaving as long as the money was used to upgrade the quality and quantity of the squad.

It seems like the club are ticking those boxes. Funds well used on the face of it.
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Benevolent Brighton I'd say!
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #45
I have a feeling van Ewijk and Simms alone will make enough profit to cover this window eventually.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #46
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well for starters I think it's very unlikely that only one relegated club makes the top 6 like last season, all seem in stronger positions. What's clear though is that through the Gyo sale, Wasps bankruptcy, King takeover and a bumper ST sale, the club's in the best health it's been in for several decades.
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This gets said every year. Someone did some analysis recently and the average position for a relegated team over the last ten years or something is 8th.
 

rob9872

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #47
shmmeee said:
This gets said every year. Someone did some analysis recently and the average position for a relegated team over the last ten years or something is 8th.
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Helped by Sunderland dropping twice
 

SleepyGinger

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #48
Simms, Thomas, Van Ewijk, Latibeaudiere and Binks all 21-23, should all get even better with our coaching.
 
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Chris1987

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #49
What the Vik money is allowing us to do is make long term player investments rather than relying on the short term loan merry-go-round every season. Truly exciting times .
 
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ExmouthNeil

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #50
Hopefully the quality of the signings will help to convince Gus to sign a new contract
 

skybluegod

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #51
Ccfcisparks said:
I think we need a first team quality striker and CB. The RWB CAM and CM can be either developmental or loans.
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Surely the RWB at this stage should be Burroughs if it is going to be developmental. He needs the opportunity to kick on at this point
 
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Yorkshire SB

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #52
As others have said. The great thing is the profile of signing.

We’ve a proper chance of success in the next 2-3 years with this group, but if we fall just short we’ll have more assets we can sell at a profit. It’s exactly what we needed to do, and we’ve done it.

Robins, Adi and Dennis have worked wonders until now, so I certainly wouldn’t bet against them immediately turning this group into contenders, but I would still say we’re a project and that this season will be tough (given calibre of relegated sides)
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
A team ready to go for the next 3 or 4 years
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That's the bit that is encouraging. May take a season to gel (some players will likely settle quicker than others - even Gus was a relatively slow burn early on). Haven't got a clue how this season will pan out, but it's already looking exciting, yet I'm confident the team should be even stronger the following season (which given we could be minus Gyokeres, Hamer and O'Hare, is ridiculous),
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #54
shmmeee said:
This gets said every year. Someone did some analysis recently and the average position for a relegated team over the last ten years or something is 8th.
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Equally, the last 3 seasons have been convincingly won by a relegated club.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #55
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Equally, the last 3 seasons have been convincingly won by a relegated club.
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Yeah, but to imply half the top six will be relegated teams if wrong. It never happens. Every year people say “this is the hardest league”.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #56
shmmeee said:
Yeah, but to imply half the top six will be relegated teams if wrong. It never happens. Every year people say “this is the hardest league”.
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I’m not suggesting they all will, but the 3 coming down this season are in much stronger shape than their counterparts last season. I do think the league will be generally a higher standard.

Thankfully so are we
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #57
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not suggesting they all will, but the 3 coming down this season are in much stronger shape than their counterparts last season. I do think the league will be generally a higher standard.

Thankfully so are we
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I don’t think so. I think it’s a psychological trick, the unknown relegated teams always look strong, the teams you’ve seen close up look weak. Every season since we’ve been up people have been telling us that season was the weakest ever and next year it’s way stronger.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #58
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m not suggesting they all will, but the 3 coming down this season are in much stronger shape than their counterparts last season. I do think the league will be generally a higher standard.

Thankfully so are we
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I think burnley looked good , better than the 3 coming down .. one of the best I've seen in this league for years overall ..

The other 2 teams yes I agree
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #59
shmmeee said:
I don’t think so. I think it’s a psychological trick, the unknown relegated teams always look strong, the teams you’ve seen close up look weak. Every season since we’ve been up people have been telling us that season was the weakest ever and next year it’s way stronger.
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Evo1883 said:
I think burnley looked good , better than the 3 coming down .. one of the best I've seen in this league for years overall ..

The other 2 teams yes I agree
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Watford and Norwich both came down having been relegated by a country mile, and both tailed off badly last season.

Time will tell but I think at least 2 of the ones this year should be in contention for the autos.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #60
Leeds are a basket case club so I wouldn’t bet my house on them going straight back up
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #61
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Watford and Norwich both came down having been relegated by a country mile, and both tailed off badly last season.

Time will tell but I think at least 2 of the ones this year should be in contention for the autos.
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Two traditionally strong Championship teams but I don’t fancy them. Watford are a basket case (to be fair have been for a long time) but finally feel the chopping and changing is going to catch up with them. Norwich seem average.

Genuinely, we will be stronger going into this season than last season and that’s despite losing the best striker in the division.

If we can keep Hamer and continue our exciting recruitment, we’ll comfortably be a playoff team.
 

Mild-Mannered Janitor

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #62
Whilst I loved Gyok, his transformation and ultimate sale is potentially transforming the club for years if this crop of players signed either get us to the PL or go on and be a similar success to him and get sold for decent values.
One man or a couple like last year can get you so far but 5-6 quality players now are far better long term and amazing to enjoy compared to the freebies back in L2
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #63
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Two traditionally strong Championship teams but I don’t fancy them. Watford are a basket case (to be fair have been for a long time) but finally feel the chopping and changing is going to catch up with them. Norwich seem average.

Genuinely, we will be stronger going into this season than last season and that’s despite losing the best striker in the division.

If we can keep Hamer and continue our exciting recruitment, we’ll comfortably be a playoff team.
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I see us starting slowly to be honest, but once players get used to each other it should be pretty strong. This is probably the most ‘continental’ our squad has been since the late 90s so will be interesting to see how that goes too.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #64
My fear was doing a Barnsley this year after the play off excitement. That fear has gone...we are looking comfortably mid table this year, and hopefully higher. The big swede has set us up nicely..
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #65
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Watford and Norwich both came down having been relegated by a country mile, and both tailed off badly last season.

Time will tell but I think at least 2 of the ones this year should be in contention for the autos.
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Every year people say this will be the strongest ever division but I really don't see it.

I am reassured that the three that came down all finished below Everton, who were pretty useless.

Southampton were essentially down for most of the second half of the season like Norwich and Watford the year before. Leicester have lost Maddison and Tielemans, who really were he focus of all their play when they were good. Leeds a bit of an unknown quantity this season.
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #66
Deleted member 9744 said:
Every year people say this will be the strongest ever division but I really don't see it.

I am reassured that the three that came down all finished below Everton, who were pretty useless.

Southampton were essentially down for most of the second half of the season like Norwich and Watford the year before. Leicester have lost Maddison and Tielemans, who really were he focus of all their play when they were good. Leeds a bit of an unknown quantity this season.
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Leicester have also lost Barnes
 
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Garlana86

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #67
The doom and gloom over no signings from a few weeks back feels very much like a distant memory, actually laughable.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #68
Garlana86 said:
The doom and gloom over no signings from a few weeks back feels very much like a distant memory, actually laughable.
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Things take time and unless MR was panicking, which he wasn’t, there wasn’t really anything to worry about.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #69
I don’t know the rules on ffp, but was talking to a chap the other week who told me the Gyokeres money about 20odd million can all be used to buy players as it is classed as income had he stayed we couldn’t have spent the same 20mill on players even if DK had gave us the money out of his back pocket so to speak something to do with income and ffp, perhaps someone can enlighten on that ruling.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 28, 2023
  • #70
slowpoke said:
I don’t know the rules on ffp, but was talking to a chap the other week who told me the Gyokeres money about 20odd million can all be used to buy players as it is classed as income had he stayed we couldn’t have spent the same 20mill on players even if DK had gave us the money out of his back pocket so to speak something to do with income and ffp, perhaps someone can enlighten on that ruling.
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Has to be income. But if Doug wanted to pump cash in he could do it through the KoS sponsorship I believe.
 
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