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The ghost of O’Hare finally laid to rest? (1 Viewer)

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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #71
Lamps said:
You're right. They're not alike. Rudoni is a lot bigger and stronger. How often did O'Hare score with his head?

So Sheffield United winning more games and scoring more goals doesn't make it easier for their players?
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They’ve scored one more goal than us
 

Lamps

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #72
Grendel said:
They’ve scored one more goal than us
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He has played 31 games this season. Started in 30 of them. How many goals and how many assists?
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #73
Lamps said:
He has played 31 games this season. Started in 30 of them. How many goals and how many assists?
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Er that’s not what you said.

You’ll be showing crowds booing in the summer and thinking it was at the weekend soon.
 

Lamps

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #74
Grendel said:
Er that’s not what you said.

You’ll be showing crowds booing in the summer and thinking it was at the weekend soon.
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You're trying to make out O'Hare is the better player. Have Sheffield United scored more goals than us? That's what I said.

So continue with what you're saying. How well is O'Hare doing this season? How many goals and how many assists in 31 games?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #75
COH is a great player, but I think Rudoni suits this system a lot more. His set piece delivery is invaluable too.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #76
Lamps said:
You're trying to make out O'Hare is the better player. Have Sheffield United scored more goals than us? That's what I said.

So continue with what you're saying. How well is O'Hare doing this season? How many goals and how many assists in 31 games?
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Well the fact he’s started 30 games for a team at the top would suggest he’s doing pretty well I’d have thought
 
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Lamps

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #77
Grendel said:
Well the fact he’s started 30 games for a team at the top would suggest he’s doing pretty well I’d have thought
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Get your stats out.

Or don't they back up what you're trying to say?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #78
Lamps said:
Get your stats out.

Or don't they back up what you're trying to say?
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Whoscored rating is interesting forboth too.
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #79
Lamps said:
Get your stats out.

Or don't they back up what you're trying to say?
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I actually don’t know what you are blabbering on about to be honest.
 
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SBbucks

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #80
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
4m was never too expensive for Rudi, he’s shown this ability at Huddersfield in this league if he was on a team where they had forwards that could score he wouldnt be with us, their top scorer last season was their CB (Helik), and they were an awful team but he always looked a bright spark in their side
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Agreed, anyone who couldn’t see his value had not seen him play. He absolutely stood out against us on our last visit up there. Very clear he was a special player.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #81
Lamps said:
Get your stats out.

Or don't they back up what you're trying to say?
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I have the stats:

 

Lamps

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #82
Grendel said:
I actually don’t know what you are blabbering on about to be honest.
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Goals are when you put that bit of leather with air in it in between the two posts and under the crossbar. Assists are when you pass the ball to someone and he does it.

How many times has O'Hare managed to do it this season?
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #83
Lamps said:
Goals are when you put that bit of leather with air in it in between the two posts and under the crossbar. Assists are when you pass the ball to someone and he does it.

How many times has O'Hare managed to do it this season?
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No sorry I was referring to this;

Booing the team off

Yes being there, buying things from the club shop etc is a way of supporting the team. However, it does nothing for the atmosphere in the ground and is not really enough. When we start thinking that not booing the team off, having stayed to the end, is good support, then football is really...
www.readytogo.net
 

David O'Day

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #84
Chicken Mcgraw said:
I’d say that fact they’re looking good for a top 2 finish isn’t the plus for Rudoni that you’re making out. O’hare is the superior player but Rudoni is great. No need to even compare the 2. They’re nothing alike.
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He's superior, they are just very different players

Cal was great off the ball and Rudi is better on the ball.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #85
David O'Day said:
He's superior, they are just very different players

Cal was great off the ball and Rudi is better on the ball.
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Yeah I agree. Love Rudoni and he’s a huge asset for us as is O’hare for the team second in the league.
 
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Lamps

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #86
Grendel said:
No sorry I was referring to this;

Booing the team off

Yes being there, buying things from the club shop etc is a way of supporting the team. However, it does nothing for the atmosphere in the ground and is not really enough. When we start thinking that not booing the team off, having stayed to the end, is good support, then football is really...
www.readytogo.net
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So how many goals and how many assists....
 

Captain Dart

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #87
Given this thread keeps getting posts the answer to the original question is no.
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #88
Ccfcisparks said:
a season long flash in the pan is a very long flash in the pan
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You say that but we can all name one season wonders
 
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Samueljames1991

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #89
Grendel said:
One thing they do have in common is the same stupid fake accent
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It's not a fake accent he's from South London that's how young people talk from there. O'Hares is more fake as he's from Solihull
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #90
Rudoni is more important to us than O'Hare ever was

irrespective of who is "better"
 
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Shannerz

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #91
ccfcricoh said:
Rudoni is more important to us than O'Hare ever was
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I don't think it should be downplayed how important O'Hare was to us staying in this division initially, and then kicking on to being an established side.
 
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fingers_crossed

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #92
Chicken Mcgraw said:
I have the stats:

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He’s comparing players, and you’re comparing teams. You surely know that doesn’t make sense.
 
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AOM

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #93
Shannerz said:
I don't think it should be downplayed how important O'Hare was to us staying in this division initially, and then kicking on to being an established side.
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Agree, O'Hare didn't score many goals for us, but his work off the ball and pressing from the front was vital for how we played, and it was really evident when he wasn't in the team
 
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SBAndy

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #94
AOM said:
Agree, O'Hare didn't score many goals for us, but his work off the ball and pressing from the front was vital for how we played, and it was really evident when he wasn't in the team
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More of a defensive #10 I’ve always thought. No idea what he’s like now as the only game I’ve seen him play this season was v us.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #95
Let's face it, a lot of it is because when we got promoted in lockdown we were all locked in and he danced with a wig on.

He had a bit of a purple patch where he scored a few goals but was massively overrated because of the wig, sunglasses and going on stage with Tom Grennan.
 
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AOM

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #96
SBAndy said:
More of a defensive #10 I’ve always thought. No idea what he’s like now as the only game I’ve seen him play this season was v us.
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Yeah same, and he looked a bit lost in that game. Think the stick he received from the home fans actually really unsettled him as well
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #97
fingers_crossed said:
He’s comparing players, and you’re comparing teams. You surely know that doesn’t make sense.
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Not really, O’hare is a team player rather than a talisman. No surprise his team are flying.

Rudoni has been apart of some real poor teams and been involved in a couple of relegation battles already. It’s great that his numbers are good but incredibly naive to imagine O’hare isn’t offering a hell of a lot to the team that have won the joint most points in the league.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #98
Nick said:
Let's face it, a lot of it is because when we got promoted in lockdown we were all locked in and he danced with a wig on.

He had a bit of a purple patch where he scored a few goals but was massively overrated because of the wig, sunglasses and going on stage with Tom Grennan.
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Yes, then he left and is now playing every game for the team that was won the joint most points in the league. Do they overrate him for wearing a wig too?
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #99
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Yes, then he left and is now playing every game for the team that was won the joint most points in the league. Do they overrate him for wearing a wig too?
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It's a comparison to Rudoni, isn't it? Isn't he above him just on passes completed with loads less passes attempted and that's about it?

See how much he plays in the Prem.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #100
Nick said:
It's a comparison to Rudoni, isn't it? Isn't he above him just on passes completed with loads less passes attempted and that's about it?

See how much he plays in the Prem.
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Surely we all watched O’hare enough to know what his strengths are and why that would be extremely valuable to a team like Sheffield United. If you think he’s overrated, you’re completely delusional. This thread proves it’s the opposite of that.

How much would Rudoni play in the prem? Nonsense point. Maybe he should put a wig on.
 
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Nick

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #101
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Surely we all watched O’hare enough to know what his strengths are and why that would be extremely valuable to a team like Sheffield United. If you think he’s overrated, you’re completely delusional. This thread proves it’s the opposite of that.

How much would Rudoni play in the prem? Nonsense point. Maybe he should put a wig on.
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That point about the Prem was because him and his agent clearly thought that's where he was going.

The jist is he's a number 10 who will run a lot and press, doesn't get many goals and assists but will defend from the front and win fouls.

Ironically, Rudoni has been better since he got rid of the bleached hair.
 

Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #102
Nick said:
That point about the Prem was because him and his agent clearly thought that's where he was going.

The jist is he's a number 10 who will run a lot and press, doesn't get many goals and assists but will defend from the front and win fouls.

Ironically, Rudoni has been better since he got rid of the bleached hair.
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And it is very likely he will be going there. Fantastic player
 

fingers_crossed

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #103
Chicken Mcgraw said:
Not really, O’hare is a team player rather than a talisman. No surprise his team are flying.

Rudoni has been apart of some real poor teams and been involved in a couple of relegation battles already. It’s great that his numbers are good but incredibly naive to imagine O’hare isn’t offering a hell of a lot to the team that have won the joint most points in the league.
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I think that’s the problem though, we’re not trying to ‘imagine’ anything. We’re trying to make a comparison using stats derived from their actual contribution to games. I’m sure CoH is having a good season, but I wouldn’t swap him for Rudoni.
Sheffield United finished 19 points above us the last time they were promoted, that doesn’t make Jon Fleck a better player than Gustavo Hamer.
 
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Cally Fedora

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #104
Here’s the relevant stat. Rudoni plays for us at the moment. O’Hare doesn’t.
 
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Chicken Mcgraw

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  • Feb 24, 2025
  • #105
fingers_crossed said:
I think that’s the problem though, we’re not trying to ‘imagine’ anything. We’re trying to make a comparison using stats derived from their actual contribution to games. I’m sure CoH is having a good season, but I wouldn’t swap him for Rudoni.
Sheffield United finished 19 points above us the last time they were promoted, that doesn’t make Jon Fleck a better player than Gustavo Hamer.
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O’hare is having a fantastic season for the joint best team in the league as of now. Was a great move for him.

Rudoni is having a great season for a team just outside the play offs. Everyone’s happy.
 
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