The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (5 Viewers)

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
[QUOTE="martcov, post: 1710489, member: 5800". hope we get a second referendum. The result is not the main thing. It would be a test to see how things work nowadays.

What complete bollocks. You want a second referendum but it doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]

Of course I want a second referendum to see if the public are still happy with the idea of Brexit as it now stands. If they are, well that is it. No one can then claim they didn’t know what they were voting for. They will do that when the country continues to lose jobs and investment in business. Give it 5 years of leave and the status of a distressed trading partner at the mercy of e.g. US or Chinese experienced trade negotiators and then you will hear all the excuses and the blame game will be getting very bitter. I would rather the UK stay in the EU and play an important part in it’s development. Far less risk than embarking on this experiment.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
I didn’t do the troll the favour of putting him on ignore. I just didn’t reply to his sneering for a short while. Now I have decided to insult him every time he comes up with some stupid comment. He obviously likes being called a wanker as he still posts stupid sneers instead of trying to have a conversation.

But you lost utter self indulgent crap. Plus, you make yourself an irresistible target with childish remarks about all the friends you have when clearly you have none . For someone over 60 that's really sad. As for calling me a wanker it doesn't bother me at all, because we both know you wouldn't say it face to face.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
Two actually - you due to your curious obsession with me and your buddies extremist views can only be tolerated in minute doses

Curious obsession in this case seems a bit exaggerated in comparison with that of my own personal stalker, who you like playing with to encourage him.

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Your buddy thinks horses enjoy horse racing. I don’t think you’re in any position to judge my “buddies” views when you claim to be an animal lover yet you haven’t picked your buddy up once on his extreme views of horse racing despite arguing the point for page upon page.

I haven’t a clue what you are talking about

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
Curious obsession in this case seems a bit exaggerated in comparison with that of my own personal stalker, who you like playing with to encourage him.

I think his assessment of you is pretty accurate if I’m honest

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
I haven’t a clue what you are talking about

Didn’t think you would somehow. Just like when you didn’t get the PM I sent you with a link confirming that you were talking bollocks on why we abolished the death penalty. There’s a reason you put posters on ignore and it’s because you enjoy burying your head in the sand. You’ve just proved it again by claiming that you weren’t aware that your buddy was claiming for pages that horses love horse racing. You’re a very ignorant person as you prove again and again.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
But you lost utter self indulgent crap. Plus, you make yourself an irresistible target with childish remarks about all the friends you have when clearly you have none . For someone over 60 that's really sad. As for calling me a wanker it doesn't bother me at all, because we both know you wouldn't say it face to face.

I wouldn’t say it to your face because I never want to see you. You tell me things about me that are just crap. You say I am a pensioner when I have explained my work situation to you. You say I should get out more when in fact I have only spent about a week at home this year. Your guess is miles out. You claim that I have no friends when I have told you I do. I ask you again, why would I bother lying to the likes of you? I only mentioned my friends to make the point that their company was preferable to reading your crap, and therefore, I couldn’t be arsed to reply any more on that evening. That is not childish. You deflected away from my point. I am not interested in you. Well, apart from the psychology of people like yourself who stalk and troll people on the internet. I will Google that and read up on it when I have a bit of time in my hands. And, as I say, you are a wanker. Even if it doesn’t bother you to hear it.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
I think his assessment of you is pretty accurate if I’m honest

I have just explained that his guesses are way out. I don’t think he has a clear opinion, he just stalks and sneers as he pleases. He is sick and you just enjoy playing him, as you did with Bazza for a while. Bazza even started using your insults. Luckily Bazza has become relatively ok since then,

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t think you would somehow. Just like when you didn’t get the PM I sent you with a link confirming that you were talking bollocks on why we abolished the death penalty. There’s a reason you put posters on ignore and it’s because you enjoy burying your head in the sand. You’ve just proved it again by claiming that you weren’t aware that your buddy was claiming for pages that horses love horse racing. You’re a very ignorant person as you prove again and again.

I think you used the word buddy too loosely. Grendel doesn’t have particular buddies. He joins up with someone sometimes as a tactic. When he’s bored with that he joins up with another one and plays with him for a bit until he gets bored or finds another one to play with. He’s quite capable of turning on them on other threads though. Which is probably why he has difficulty understanding what you are on about.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
I wouldn’t say it to your face because I never want to see you. You tell me things about me that are just crap. You say I am a pensioner when I have explained my work situation to you. You say I should get out more when in fact I have only spent about a week at home this year. Your guess is miles out. You claim that I have no friends when I have told you I do. I ask you again, why would I bother lying to the likes of you? I only mentioned my friends to make the point that their company was preferable to reading your crap, and therefore, I couldn’t be arsed to reply any more on that evening. That is not childish. You deflected away from my point. I am not interested in you. Well, apart from the psychology of people like yourself who stalk and troll people on the internet. I will Google that and read up on it when I have a bit of time in my hands. And, as I say, you are a wanker. Even if it doesn’t bother you to hear it.

Methinks you protest too much.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Methinks you protest too much.

Methinks you are 1. too stupid to understand what I said or why I said it, or 2. You did understand, but are just being a twat.

Which is it?

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
I have just explained that his guesses are way out. I don’t think he has a clear opinion, he just stalks and sneers as he pleases. He is sick and you just enjoy playing him, as you did with Bazza for a while. Bazza even started using your insults. Luckily Bazza has become relatively ok since then,

I'm spot on. You're a top notch bullshitter

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
What complete bollocks. You want a second referendum but it doesn't matter.

Of course I want a second referendum to see if the public are still happy with the idea of Brexit as it now stands. If they are, well that is it. No one can then claim they didn’t know what they were voting for. They will do that when the country continues to lose jobs and investment in business. Give it 5 years of leave and the status of a distressed trading partner at the mercy of e.g. US or Chinese experienced trade negotiators and then you will hear all the excuses and the blame game will be getting very bitter. I would rather the UK stay in the EU and play an important part in it’s development. Far less risk than embarking on this experiment.[/QUOTE]
I may not agree entirely but I think that's a fair post. 10 years of upheaval but to what extent who knows.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm spot on. You're a top notch bullshitter

Very good. Now give me an example of where I have bullshitted.

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Didn’t think you would somehow. Just like when you didn’t get the PM I sent you with a link confirming that you were talking bollocks on why we abolished the death penalty. There’s a reason you put posters on ignore and it’s because you enjoy burying your head in the sand. You’ve just proved it again by claiming that you weren’t aware that your buddy was claiming for pages that horses love horse racing. You’re a very ignorant person as you prove again and again.

I wasn’t talking bollocks - I didn’t get the PM but did then see your post which proved nothing but your ignorance on the subject

I did not see the horse racing discussion

Captain Dart · Mar 10, 2019

Can't call it at all but this was in the Times leader. Make of it what you will.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
Very good. Now give me an example of where I have bullshitted.

Why?

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
I think you used the word buddy too loosely. Grendel doesn’t have particular buddies. He joins up with someone sometimes as a tactic. When he’s bored with that he joins up with another one and plays with him for a bit until he gets bored or finds another one to play with. He’s quite capable of turning on them on other threads though. Which is probably why he has difficulty understanding what you are on about.

So whereas the other day you were full of "Grendel is just playing you " today it's a bit different . Perhaps you should think a little more objectively and be a little more consistent rather than start crying about nothing.

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
I wasn’t talking bollocks - I didn’t get the PM but did then see your post which proved nothing but your ignorance on the subject

I did not see the horse racing discussion

Of course you didn’t get it. Ignorance? You were quoting legislation that didn’t even exist as a reason we stopped capital punishment, my link was the legislation in print and was dated some 4 plus years after the date you were claiming.

I fail to see how you didn’t see the horse racing discussion as it went on for several pages over several days and you were posting all the while. Even Nick commented on how he was surprised you wasn’t agreeing with me. For a self proclaimed animal lover you didn’t half give someone a free pass on a complete load of bollocks.

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
I think you used the word buddy too loosely. Grendel doesn’t have particular buddies. He joins up with someone sometimes as a tactic. When he’s bored with that he joins up with another one and plays with him for a bit until he gets bored or finds another one to play with. He’s quite capable of turning on them on other threads though. Which is probably why he has difficulty understanding what you are on about.

I bet you and Tony play with each other all the time

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Of course you didn’t get it. Ignorance? You were quoting legislation that didn’t even exist as a reason we stopped capital punishment, my link was the legislation in print and was dated some 4 plus years after the date you were claiming.

I fail to see how you didn’t see the horse racing discussion as it went on for several pages over several days and you were posting all the while. Even Nick commented on how he was surprised you wasn’t agreeing with me. For a self proclaimed animal lover you didn’t half give someone a free pass on a complete load of bollocks.

No Tony you got confused - the act to abolish capital punishment for treason occurred in 1998 - you quoted I believe the 13th protocol which prohibited the re introduction of it. An easy error to make I guess.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So whereas the other day you were full of "Grendel is just playing you " today it's a bit different . Perhaps you should think a little more objectively and be a little more consistent rather than start crying about nothing.

I don’t see any difference. I am not crying about anything. More crap from you.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Why?

Because you have made a statement. Obviously you can’t back it up. More crap from you as usual.

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
No Tony you got confused - the act to abolish capital punishment for treason occurred in 1998 - you quoted I believe the 13th protocol which prohibited the re introduction of it. An easy error to make I guess.

Actually it was you quoting the 13th protocol not me and your assumption was that it existed four years before it actually did. I posted a link to all the documents pertaining to protocol 13 so you could see you were having another Roman Empire/Holy Roman Empire moment but you were having a burying your head in the sand moment and blocking me so to save you further embarrassment I pm’d you the link as a favour. Turns out you’re such an ignoramus you would rather pretend you never got my pm because on some planet in the corner of your mind it means you wasn’t wrong in the first place.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

All the BS and false statements that they have problems backing up come from the leavers along with sneers and first insults. I insult them back now. Why is it that the leavers are the ones that rant and rage? They won and we’re heading to a lovely no deal Brexit. They should be doing somersaults for joy,

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Actually it was you quoting the 13th protocol not me and your assumption was that it existed four years before it actually did. I posted a link to all the documents pertaining to protocol 13 so you could see you were having another Roman Empire/Holy Roman Empire moment but you were having a burying your head in the sand moment and blocking me so to save you further embarrassment I pm’d you the link as a favour. Turns out you’re such an ignoramus you would rather pretend you never got my pm because on some planet in the corner of your mind it means you wasn’t wrong in the first place.

Tony you never sent me a PM and Tony what year was the death penalty abolished?

Still Mart liked your post so I guess another change of underwear is required

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
Tony you never sent me a PM and Tony what year was the death penalty abolished?

Still Mart liked your post so I guess another change of underwear is required

Erm, yes I did. I even tell you I have in the post I made on here. You can keep denying it but all your proving is you’re wrong twice and the levels of your ignorance are growing. The point wasn’t when the death penalty was abolished for treason it was about when the death penalty was abolished for general crime and your claim that it was down to legislation that didn’t even exist.

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Oh dear

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Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Erm, yes I did. I even tell you I have in the post I made on here. You can keep denying it but all your proving is you’re wrong twice and the levels of your ignorance are growing. The point wasn’t when the death penalty was abolished for treason it was about when the death penalty was abolished for general crime and your claim that it was down to legislation that didn’t even exist.

No it wasn’t the point at all Tony and the only poster who agrees with you is a sad pathetic deranged lunatic who’d vote the McCanns for a babysitter if the year award as long as they were remainers.

No one cares what you think Tony - which I know irritates you especially as when I post on every subject everyone looks to the post from Grendel

It upsets you doesn’t it Tony

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
Because you have made a statement. Obviously you can’t back it up. More crap from you as usual.

Just close your eyes and pick any. No point in quoting you as your head is firmly up your own arse and youll predictably say it isn't .

skybluetony176 · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
No it wasn’t the point at all Tony and the only poster who agrees with you is a sad pathetic deranged lunatic who’d vote the McCanns for a babysitter if the year award as long as they were remainers.

No one cares what you think Tony - which I know irritates you especially as when I post on every subject everyone looks to the post from Grendel

It upsets you doesn’t it Tony

Ha ha ha. My god you’ve got a high opinion of yourself. I think most people see you as a joke.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Just close your eyes and pick any. No point in quoting you as your head is firmly up your own arse and youll predictably say it isn't .

So, in other words you cannot back your statement up with facts. Typical troll.

Alan Dugdales Moustache · Mar 10, 2019

martcov said:
All the BS and false statements that they have problems backing up come from the leavers along with sneers and first insults. I insult them back now. Why is it that the leavers are the ones that rant and rage? They won and we’re heading to a lovely no deal Brexit. They should be doing somersaults for joy,

You're so childish . Do you think perhaps you're regressing with old age into a child again. It's the first sign you know. Did this bitterness stem from an unfortunate experience in your youth, because it's not normal at your time of life.

martcov · Mar 10, 2019

Grendel said:
No it wasn’t the point at all Tony and the only poster who agrees with you is a sad pathetic deranged lunatic who’d vote the McCanns for a babysitter if the year award as long as they were remainers.

No one cares what you think Tony - which I know irritates you especially as when I post on every subject everyone looks to the post from Grendel

It upsets you doesn’t it Tony

Hilarious. Yes, your posts are really good for a laugh....I’ll grant you that.

Grendel · Mar 10, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Ha ha ha. My god you’ve got a high opinion of yourself. I think most people see you as a joke.

Tony the actual discussion centred around the absurd claim made by a very childlike poster that the uk can reject all laws from the eu. There was specific human rights legislation which required the removal of the death penalty off the statute in 1998 - this is beyond argument. It’s an excepted fact

You then hacked in as you are obsessed with me and tried to make some attempt through a wiki trawl to prove me wrong. I understand this as you have some obsession with me.

The other way round it would have glossed over me as I do not look whenever you post Tony. You on the other hand are obsessed. You need to let it go Mr UKIP

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