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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (7 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,306
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s brilliant isn’t it??! lol
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It is if you are one of a set that just revels in anything to mock or moan about the Tories.
Others such as I (very much a floating voter) see it as a sensible move to get those EU residents that wish to stay, to go thrpugh the right channels to ensure they aren't suddenly classed as 'unwelcome'. A bit like Mart has in Germany (although the more they get to know him the more they will regret it I am sure! Lol)

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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,307
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
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You're the only one getting angry and bitter.
Watch your blood pressure and heart rate . You might pop. You could simply put me on ignore, but you chose not to.
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You’re a twat. I am not angry and I am not bitter. Actually I feel a bit sorry for someone who thinks it is entertaining to mock and sneer at other people without even having sensible argument on the subject being discussed. I won’t do you the favour of putting you on ignore as you can still spout your crap without being pulled up.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,308
SkyblueBazza said:
It is if you are one of a set that just revels in anything to mock or moan about the Tories.
Others such as I (very much a floating voter) see it as a sensible move to get those EU residents that wish to stay, to go thrpugh the right channels to ensure they aren't suddenly classed as 'unwelcome'. A bit like Mart has in Germany (although the more they get to know him the more they will regret it I am sure! Lol)

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No they won’t regret it. I produce income and employ people. So many people have shaken my hand for making the decision to take up German citizenship. BTW the Tories put us in the predicament we are in. So, yes they deserve to be mocked and reviled.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,309
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s brilliant isn’t it??! lol
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Fxxking hilarious. All the so called benefits of Brexit are being proved to be the bollocks as was said before the referendum. The economy and pound will tank as soon as we leave. Everyone outside of the Brexit bubble can see that.

But, you still have clowns on here scoffing at the warnings and expecting the benefits which they cannot specifically describe. Just hot air and pure bullshit.
 
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Grappa

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  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,310
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s brilliant isn’t it??! lol
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That's one way of looking at it Pete.
I'm at a loss for words just how mental all of this stuff is.
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,311
It takes courage to say 'I was wrong'. Sadly, not enough people are courageous.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,312
martcov said:
You’re a twat. I am not angry and I am not bitter. Actually I feel a bit sorry for someone who thinks it is entertaining to mock and sneer at other people without even having sensible argument on the subject being discussed. I won’t do you the favour of putting you on ignore as you can still spout your crap without being pulled up.
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Pulled up by whom ? You ? You can't do it. You simply end up throwing insults. Can't you do better ?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,313
martcov said:
No they won’t regret it. I produce income and employ people. So many people have shaken my hand for making the decision to take up German citizenship. BTW the Tories put us in the predicament we are in. So, yes they deserve to be mocked and reviled.
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So many people ? You do like to big yourself up. I can smell the bull from here.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,314
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So many people ? You do like to big yourself up. I can smell the bull from here.
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He fails to accept that successive Govt/& manifestos (including Labour...twice) promised but failed to deliver a referendum. At least the Tories finally did so.
People voted partly for the chance to have an EU referendum, but were repeatedly denied it.

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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,315
SkyblueBazza said:
He fails to accept that successive Govt/& manifestos (including Labour...twice) promised but failed to deliver a referendum. At least the Tories finally did so.
People voted partly for the chance to have an EU referendum, but were repeatedly denied it.

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And look what you got. Undeliverable promises. Every form of brexit negatively hits the economy. You were lied to and you are unwilling to accept that you've been had.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,316
Grappa said:
And look what you got. Undeliverable promises. Every form of brexit negatively hits the economy. You were lied to and you are unwilling to accept that you've been had.
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Brexit will never happen . From the day after the referendum the discussions have been carefully choreographed, the media manipulated ( as well as being the manipulators) to ensure that we end up staying in. It's all a well orchestrated and rehearsed procedure.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,317
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Pulled up by whom ? You ? You can't do it. You simply end up throwing insults. Can't you do better ?
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I told you before that I don’t normally throw insults, but seeing as you can only sneer, mock and insult, you are fair game to be insulted. I have constantly pulled you up on your crap. I have asked you questions which you cannot / will not answer. Whether I can do better or not is not your problem.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,318
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So many people ? You do like to big yourself up. I can smell the bull from here.
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I don’t big myself up. I don’t need to. You can say and think what you want. It’s likely to be crap anyway. You’re just a twat.
 
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Grappa

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 9, 2019
  • #32,319
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Brexit will never happen . From the day after the referendum the discussions have been carefully choreographed, the media manipulated ( as well as being the manipulators) to ensure that we end up staying in. It's all a well orchestrated and rehearsed procedure.
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Stop it with all the paranoid conspiracy nonsense. What is happening is that the reality of how completely stupid brexit is is starting to get through to people. If I'm honest, I think it's all a little too late. I reckon we'll be out with no deal. In a way, I will be relieved because if it wasn't to happen we'd have people like you moaning that 'we should have left but the conspiracy stopped it'. Let it happen and let everyone see what a stupid idea it was and hopefully accept that it made no sense then beg to rejoin but have the same deal as everyone else with no vetoes etc.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,320
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Brexit will never happen . From the day after the referendum the discussions have been carefully choreographed, the media manipulated ( as well as being the manipulators) to ensure that we end up staying in. It's all a well orchestrated and rehearsed procedure.
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I was asked before the referendum if the UK would vote leave. I said they wouldn’t be that stupid. The voters proved me wrong. The manipulation of the population by demagogues is coming out now. A long way to go, but the Banks Files are an example. Brexit is basically a right wing power grab. A large part of the population was duped. The EU is sticking to it’s principles, which is admirable. I hope we get a second referendum. The result is not the main thing. It would be a test to see how things work nowadays.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,321
martcov said:
So many people have shaken my hand for making the decision to take up German citizenship.
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Was that at your local Pegida branch?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,322
Grendel said:
Was that at your local Pegida branch?
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You know damn well that my views don’t fit in with Pegida. So stop winding the troll up.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,323
Grappa said:
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I got sneered at by the experts on this thread when suggesting this would be the case and that it was already going on a couple of years ago.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,324
SkyblueBazza said:
It is if you are one of a set that just revels in anything to mock or moan about the Tories.
Others such as I (very much a floating voter) see it as a sensible move to get those EU residents that wish to stay, to go thrpugh the right channels to ensure they aren't suddenly classed as 'unwelcome'. A bit like Mart has in Germany (although the more they get to know him the more they will regret it I am sure! Lol)

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But we voted to say we didn’t want freedom of movement. It was the number one reason for people voting to leave. Now I know people didn’t understand that this was the case but why on earth would people choose to stay in that toxic country where they are not welcome???
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,325
Grappa said:
That's one way of looking at it Pete.
I'm at a loss for words just how mental all of this stuff is.
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It is mental.

What’s also mental is that in a couple of days mps will vote for a third time on exactly the same deal!!! That’s amazing. And is that democracy????
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,326
Sky Blue Pete said:
It is mental.

What’s also mental is that in a couple of days mps will vote for a third time on exactly the same deal!!! That’s amazing. And is that democracy????
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Yeah, what’s she trying? Best of 7? ;-)
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,327
martcov said:
Yeah, what’s she trying? Best of 7? ;-)
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No, vote until it gets passed.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,328
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Brexit will never happen . From the day after the referendum the discussions have been carefully choreographed, the media manipulated ( as well as being the manipulators) to ensure that we end up staying in. It's all a well orchestrated and rehearsed procedure.
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We’re all sitting comfortably, please tell us more

 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,329
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
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You're the only one getting angry and bitter.
Watch your blood pressure and heart rate . You might pop. You could simply put me on ignore, but you chose not to.
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What is it with posters backing the leave argument and their obsession with blocking posters. Smacks of ignorance. Oh wait...
 
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The Lurker

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,330
martcov said:
I was asked before the referendum if the UK would vote leave. I said they wouldn’t be that stupid. The voters proved me wrong. The manipulation of the population by demagogues is coming out now. A long way to go, but the Banks Files are an example. Brexit is basically a right wing power grab. A large part of the population was duped. The EU is sticking to it’s principles, which is admirable. I hope we get a second referendum. The result is not the main thing. It would be a test to see how things work nowadays.
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how do you know brexit is wrong? it hasn’t even happened yet? th eu have proved what a bunch self serving cunts they are with the negations. and your calling 17 million people thick is very naive. Look at trump in America. It’s booming over there despite all the bollocks about him. same could happen here if everyone said that’s deliver what the country voted.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,331
Sky Blue Pete said:
It is mental.

What’s also mental is that in a couple of days mps will vote for a third time on exactly the same deal!!! That’s amazing. And is that democracy????
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Which is odd because apparently voting on something until you get the right answer is undemocratic.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,332
The Lurker said:
how do you know brexit is wrong? it hasn’t even happened yet? th eu have proved what a bunch self serving cunts they are with the negations. and your calling 17 million people thick is very naive. Look at trump in America. It’s booming over there despite all the bollocks about him. same could happen here if everyone said that’s deliver what the country voted.
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Hasn’t the recovery faultered and is now actually going backwards due to businesses being negatively effected by the lack of imports due to a trade war? The boom was a continuation of growth from the previous administrations policies. Thrumponimics is only just now starting to take effect in the US and the effect is negative.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,333
skybluetony176 said:
What is it with posters backing the leave argument and their obsession with blocking posters. Smacks of ignorance. Oh wait...
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Mart ignored him for a while
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,334
Grendel said:
Mart ignored him for a while
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You put multiple posters on ignore at any one time as does astute.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,335
skybluetony176 said:
You put multiple posters on ignore at any one time as does astute.
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Two actually - you due to your curious obsession with me and your buddies extremist views can only be tolerated in minute doses
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,336
[QUOTE="martcov, post: 1710489, member: 5800". hope we get a second referendum. The result is not the main thing. It would be a test to see how things work nowadays.[/QUOTE]
What complete bollocks. You want a second referendum but it doesn't matter.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,337
Grendel said:
Mart ignored him for a while
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He did but he really missed the conversation.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,338
Grendel said:
Two actually - you due to your curious obsession with me and your buddies extremist views can only be tolerated in minute doses
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Your buddy thinks horses enjoy horse racing. I don’t think you’re in any position to judge my “buddies” views when you claim to be an animal lover yet you haven’t picked your buddy up once on his extreme views of horse racing despite arguing the point for page upon page.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,339
The Lurker said:
how do you know brexit is wrong? it hasn’t even happened yet? th eu have proved what a bunch self serving cunts they are with the negations. and your calling 17 million people thick is very naive. Look at trump in America. It’s booming over there despite all the bollocks about him. same could happen here if everyone said that’s deliver what the country voted.
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The US trade deficit is growing. Trump said he would reduce it. Job creation was way below expectations in February. The wall is not getting built ( apart from 14 miles ), the National debt has grown by trillions. Kim is rebuilding his rocket launchers. The US is in a state of emergency. Illegal immigration is at highest level for 12 years. Populists promise easy solutions. Doesn’t mean that will hold long term.

The EU are self serving. They are acting on behalf of their members -minus us, who are now a third party as we have chosen to leave. No surprise there for me. Have you just noticed the benefits of operating as a group as opposed to as a single country?
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 10, 2019
  • #32,340
Grendel said:
Mart ignored him for a while
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I didn’t do the troll the favour of putting him on ignore. I just didn’t reply to his sneering for a short while. Now I have decided to insult him every time he comes up with some stupid comment. He obviously likes being called a wanker as he still posts stupid sneers instead of trying to have a conversation.
 
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