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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (6 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 6, 2019
  • #32,236
So. If there’s any truth in C4 news Aaron Banks report part 2 he could potentially be facing up to 10 years in prison.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2019
  • #32,237
You can read about it all here

The Banks Files: how Brexit ‘bad boy’ Arron Banks was eyeing a massive Russian gold deal

The Banks Files: Did Arron Banks bribe a South African police chief to have a business rival investigated?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2019
  • #32,238
skybluetony176 said:
You can read about it all here

The Banks Files: how Brexit ‘bad boy’ Arron Banks was eyeing a massive Russian gold deal

The Banks Files: Did Arron Banks bribe a South African police chief to have a business rival investigated?
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Nothing will happen to him. The investigation will go on for years, and at the end will be dropped because of lack of evidence. To admit that he is crooked and to ascertain where the money came from would show that the government has negotiated and spent billions on a flawed project. Won’t happen in our life time.
 

King of the Lesbians

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2019
  • #32,239
martcov said:
I take it all the time from Grendel and Astute.
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I just vomited...
 
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tisza

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 6, 2019
  • #32,240
skybluetony176 said:
So. If there’s any truth in C4 news Aaron Banks report part 2 he could potentially be facing up to 10 years in prison.
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Love this British morality about bribes/consultancy fees/expedited fees when doing business overseas.
Done business literally all over the world and brown envelopes and black cash are part of the world economy in many places in eastern Europe (EU countries included), Africa and Asia. Whether it's right or wrong by British standards it's the way business is done in many places.
Always a gamble if there is a change in govt but naive to believe new govts don't carry on the same way.

Not talking about this particular Banks case as it does cross all sorts of other boundaries. he does seem to be a "special" individual. South Africa has a reputation and history for large-scale corruption all the way up to the presidency. Just helped a friend sell up his agricultural interests near George as was getting threatened with land invasions if he didn't pay off certain officials. One of the most dangerous jobs in the world atm is a white farmer in South Africa.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,241
tisza said:
Love this British morality about bribes/consultancy fees/expedited fees when doing business overseas.
Done business literally all over the world and brown envelopes and black cash are part of the world economy in many places in eastern Europe (EU countries included), Africa and Asia. Whether it's right or wrong by British standards it's the way business is done in many places.
Always a gamble if there is a change in govt but naive to believe new govts don't carry on the same way.

Not talking about this particular Banks case as it does cross all sorts of other boundaries. he does seem to be a "special" individual. South Africa has a reputation and history for large-scale corruption all the way up to the presidency. Just helped a friend sell up his agricultural interests near George as was getting threatened with land invasions if he didn't pay off certain officials. One of the most dangerous jobs in the world atm is a white farmer in South Africa.
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It is not that long ago that you could write bribes off against tax in Germany. It is illegal now, but it will still happen under another guise. It is one thing an official getting favour to grant a contract, but it goes a leap further if dark money is used to alter the course of a country for strategic reasons. In the Kohl era the CDU were caught taking millions in extra campaign contributions in cash and taking them to Lichtenstein in suitcases to be then funneled back for campaign purposes.Kohl told the enquiry that he had given his word of honour not to disclose the sources of the cash. That was the end of that.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,242
tisza said:
Love this British morality about bribes/consultancy fees/expedited fees when doing business overseas.
Done business literally all over the world and brown envelopes and black cash are part of the world economy in many places in eastern Europe (EU countries included), Africa and Asia. Whether it's right or wrong by British standards it's the way business is done in many places.
Always a gamble if there is a change in govt but naive to believe new govts don't carry on the same way.

Not talking about this particular Banks case as it does cross all sorts of other boundaries. he does seem to be a "special" individual. South Africa has a reputation and history for large-scale corruption all the way up to the presidency. Just helped a friend sell up his agricultural interests near George as was getting threatened with land invasions if he didn't pay off certain officials. One of the most dangerous jobs in the world atm is a white farmer in South Africa.
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Totally agree. His problem seems to be that he tried to get a South African business partner investigated by the police when they fell out. Fine if you have evidence of wrongdoing by the ex business partner and you surrender that to the police but in this case he’s attempted to bribe a senior police officer into conducting an investigation as a form of punishment and there’s a paper trail to prove it. It’s a crime in South Africa but bribing or attempting to bribe a foreign official is also a crime in the U.K. punishable by an up to ten year prison sentence.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,243
martcov said:
No. He is playing you and you are too dim to see it. Anyway I am in a restaurant with my Romanian mates and can’t be arsed to correspond with a moron. Greetings to Grendel.
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Who says that?

"I am at the pub"
"I am at the pub with my mates who are a mixture of ethnicity and genders. They also share a range of political views"

It is the making of one of those never happened stories.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,244
Nick said:
Who says that?

"I am at the pub"
"I am at the pub with my mates who are a mixture of ethnicity and genders. They also share a range of political views"

It is the making of one of those never happened stories.
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No, I was having a nice meal in a restaurant. That’s what I do when I am working away from home. Seeing as my mate owns the restaurant and the others were in the tourist trade on a tourist fair which I was working on, it was pretty normal. I couldn’t be arsed to communicate with my stalker on here whilst being in good company.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,245
martcov said:
No, I was having a nice meal in a restaurant. That’s what I do when I am working away from home. Seeing as my mate owns the restaurant and the others were in the tourist trade on a tourist fair which I was working on, it was pretty normal. I couldn’t be arsed to communicate with my stalker on here whilst being in good company.
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Don't think you could miss the point more if you tried
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,246
Nick said:
Don't think you could miss the point more if you tried
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Seems to be.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,247
martcov said:
Seems to be.
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I am just sat here with my friend who just happens to be an expert on Brexit who agrees with me along with my other friend who is chinese, ginger, disabled, genderfluid and an expert in human rights who say you are both wrong.

You just build them up to make them relevant.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,248
Nick said:
I am just sat here with my friend who just happens to be an expert on Brexit who agrees with me along with my other friend who is chinese, ginger, disabled, genderfluid and an expert in human rights who say you are both wrong.

You just build them up to make them relevant.
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Really? I was just with my Romanian mates. I went on holiday a few times there and travelled the length of the country a couple of times with my mate. Nothing to do with politics, just more enjoyable chatting with them than with my moronic stalker.

I had a brief chat with the Irish minister of Sport and tourism. Didn’t mention Brexit. He used to run a pub, so we talked about pubs. So, nothing Brexity at the moment. Although I have had to order craft beer from Cov and cider from Somerset for the summer now as I can’t risk Brexit. Which messes up my cashflow and has to be stored somewhere.
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,249
Odds on the can being kicked further down the road, 10:1 on I should think.

Brexit delay coming up next week.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,250
Nick said:
I am just sat here with my friend who just happens to be an expert on Brexit who agrees with me along with my other friend who is chinese, ginger, disabled, genderfluid and an expert in human rights who say you are both wrong.

You just build them up to make them relevant.
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It's called the land of make believe, and he lives in the centre of it.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,251
King of the Lesbians said:
I just vomited...
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It’s still not as bad as the time Astute was offering to pick Grendel up and go to an away game together...it then proceeded to Astute telling Grendel he was big but promising to be gentle...probably one of the most surreal posts on here
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,252
Captain Dart said:
Odds on the can being kicked further down the road, 10:1 on I should think.

Brexit delay coming up next week.
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Not surprising, it’d take another 5 years to be done properly
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,253
Sick Boy said:
Not surprising, it’d take another 5 years to be done properly
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Fox still wouldn’t have all the trade deals rolled forward.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,254
martcov said:
Really? I was just with my Romanian mates. I went on holiday a few times there and travelled the length of the country a couple of times with my mate. Nothing to do with politics, just more enjoyable chatting with them than with my moronic stalker.

I had a brief chat with the Irish minister of Sport and tourism. Didn’t mention Brexit. He used to run a pub, so we talked about pubs. So, nothing Brexity at the moment. Although I have had to order craft beer from Cov and cider from Somerset for the summer now as I can’t risk Brexit. Which messes up my cashflow and has to be stored somewhere.
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I'm currently with my Bulgarian burlesque- performing friends in a bar in Llandudno right now. We've had a good chat with the leader of Plaid Cymru and will be setting off for a gig in Liverpool where we hope to meet up with Derek Hatton and Kenny Dalglish for a late dinner.
 
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King of the Lesbians

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  • Mar 7, 2019
  • #32,255
Sick Boy said:
It’s still not as bad as the time Astute was offering to pick Grendel up and go to an away game together...it then proceeded to Astute telling Grendel he was big but promising to be gentle...probably one of the most surreal posts on here
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Did he take him up the Kassam?
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,256
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm currently with my Bulgarian burlesque- performing friends in a bar in Llandudno right now. We've had a good chat with the leader of Plaid Cymru and will be setting off for a gig in Liverpool where we hope to meet up with Derek Hatton and Kenny Dalglish for a late dinner.
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Did you say that you were teaching primary school children? Or did you actually mean that you are a primary school child? You said you worked with your hands five days a week building extensions. Make your mind up.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,257
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm currently with my Bulgarian burlesque- performing friends in a bar in Llandudno right now. We've had a good chat with the leader of Plaid Cymru and will be setting off for a gig in Liverpool where we hope to meet up with Derek Hatton and Kenny Dalglish for a late dinner.
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You claim to teach children. Jesus fxxking wept. What actually do you teach?

What subject do you know anything about?

And yes I was out with my Romanian mates again last night, which is much more pleasant than reading your thick crap on here. I am not making any point about Romanians btw. I just call my mates here Romanian because they are Romanian. Whatever.

Just go to your primary school mates, or down the pub and get pissed again, or go stone carrying for your extensions, or whatever else you do whilst not stalking me.

Sick fxxker.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,258

The bloke who looks like he is dead did him in the staring competition.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,259
martcov said:
You claim to teach children. Jesus fxxking wept. What actually do you teach?

What subject do you know anything about?

And yes I was out with my Romanian mates again last night, which is much more pleasant than reading your thick crap on here. I am not making any point about Romanians btw. I just call my mates here Romanian because they are Romanian. Whatever.

Just go to your primary school mates, or down the pub and get pissed again, or go stone carrying for your extensions, or whatever else you do whilst not stalking me.

Sick fxxker.
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Why am I a sick fxxker ? Is it because I don't pretend to have lots of "friends" . You made yourself look an embarrassing insecure idiot with your "Romanian" story .
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,260
Nick said:

The bloke who looks like he is dead did him in the staring competition.
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Is Mark Francois astute in disguise?

Any how, the award for best reply on twitter goes too...

WS "I'm not saying that every bird is a penguin. I'm just saying that every penguin is a bird". MF "How dare you say that every bird is a penguin!" WS "I didn't say that". MF "You need to apologise to every bird for saying they are a penguin".
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,261
Nick said:

The bloke who looks like he is dead did him in the staring competition.
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Genuinely excellent
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,262
Nick said:

The bloke who looks like he is dead did him in the staring competition.
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Will Love My Self - what a pointless tosser
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,263
Grendel said:
Will Love My Self - what a pointless tosser
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And the award for most predictable post of the year goes to...
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,264
martcov said:
Did you say that you were teaching primary school children? Or did you actually mean that you are a primary school child? You said you worked with your hands five days a week building extensions. Make your mind up.
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Are you looking at my posts on other threads ? For someone who insists that I'm a stalker, that's a bit odd isn't it . Shouldn't you be reporting me to Nick rather than salivating at the new information you have ?
...and it's great that rather than churn out the usual "fuck off down the pub" line that you spin you have now given me the option to go out with my teaching mates. How lovely. .
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,265
Grendel said:
Will Love My Self - what a pointless tosser
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Imagine him as a used car salesman .
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,266
Or a new car salesman come to that.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,267
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Why am I a sick fxxker ? Is it because I don't pretend to have lots of "friends" . You made yourself look an embarrassing insecure idiot with your "Romanian" story .
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What story? I have loads of friends and people connected with my line of work in different cities and from other countries. I don’t have to make that up. I refer to my Romanian mates as my Romanian mates and e.g. my Croatian mates as my Croatian mates. You are a sick fxxker because you don’t understand things. I made a comment saying that it was preferable to speak to my mates rather than read your crap. I said Romanian mates because I always refer to them as that. Nick tried to twist things. And, funnily enough, last year there was a guy wanting to buy the restaurant who actually had won the European Cup playing for Steaua Bucarest. Nice guy, but obviously not Kenny Dalgleish.

And if you check where the Irish Minister was on Wednesday, you will find he was in Berlin. I didn’t make that up either. I don’t need to make things up, I just made a casual remark comparing the people I was with to you. That was all the Rest came when you rolled up with your usual stalking crap.

Have you decided yet whether you teach kids or carry stones?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,268
martcov said:
What story? I have loads of friends and people connected with my line of work in different cities and from other countries. I don’t have to make that up. I refer to my Romanian mates as my Romanian mates and e.g. my Croatian mates as my Croatian mates. You are a sick fxxker because you don’t understand things. I made a comment saying that it was preferable to speak to my mates rather than read your crap. I said Romanian mates because I always refer to them as that. Nick tried to twist things. And, funnily enough, last year there was a guy wanting to buy the restaurant who actually had won the European Cup playing for Steaua Bucarest. Nice guy, but obviously not Kenny Dalgleish.

And if you check where the Irish Minister was on Wednesday, you will find he was in Berlin. I didn’t make that up either. I don’t need to make things up, I just made a casual remark comparing the people I was with to you. That was all the Rest came when you rolled up with your usual stalking crap.

Have you decided yet whether you teach kids or carry stones?
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I didn't try to twist things. I pointed out how weird it was the way you went out of your way to say it.
 
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martcov

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,269
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Are you looking at my posts on other threads ? For someone who insists that I'm a stalker, that's a bit odd isn't it . Shouldn't you be reporting me to Nick rather than salivating at the new information you have ?
...and it's great that rather than churn out the usual "fuck off down the pub" line that you spin you have now given me the option to go out with my teaching mates. How lovely. .
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Didn’t say teaching mates. I don’t think you have any. I said your primary school mates meaning the other kids.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 8, 2019
  • #32,270
skybluetony176 said:
And the award for most predictable post of the year goes to...
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Tony for having his phone on Grendel alert and poised for an instant and remarkably underwhelming reply
 
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