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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,886
Astute said:
The point is Marts constant lies which get defended by the same people all the time. And you are one of them.
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Prove that I lied. I can see that you lied with you false quotes about me. It’s in black and white. If I lied, then you can easily find a post to prove it. But you cannot. All mouth and lies.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,887
Grendel said:
One as you’ve already pointed out was dead and it’s still missing the point
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I’ve asked you the point and you haven’t answered. Do us a favour, let astute know one was dead before the war ended as he doesn’t seem to know.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,888
Astute said:
Are you saying Mart was coming out with the truth or are you just trying to change the subject?
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When are you going to correct your made up quotes from me? Go on Mr Neutral. Prove me a liar or shut the fxxk up.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,889
ANyone else have a thought on the chance of exactly the same deal going through Parliament ?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,890
Sky Blue Pete said:
ANyone else have a thought on the chance of exactly the same deal going through Parliament ?
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The ability to think has been sucked out my brain by a massive syringe, wielded by Rees Mogg / Umunna dressed as Hitler / Churchill (delete as applicable)
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,891
martcov said:
When are you going to correct your made up quotes from me? Go on Mr Neutral. Prove me a liar or shut the fxxk up.
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I think you should ask yourself whether you'd be prepared to say this kind of stuff face to face down the pub. I think we all know the answer.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,892
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I think you should ask yourself whether you'd be prepared to say this kind of stuff face to face down the pub. I think we all know the answer.
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I doubt whether I would use the same pub as you, so it’s highly unlikely we will meet.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,893
I have to say that it’s been amusing watching dumb and dumber make idiots of themselves trying to make out Churchill would have been given a wag of the finger and a nice pension had Germany won the war but in the interest of putting this to bed so the thread can get back on “topic” I have one word. Sonderfahndungslite. Also known as The Black Book. And yes Churchill is in it.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,894
Astute said:
I don't get the wrong end. I just totally dislike liars and lying. This thread has been full of them. And mainly from just a couple of people.

I prefer a thief to a liar. At least you know when something has been stolen.

So are you denying that Mart stated that the Nazis said they would take Churchill to court on the charge of being a war criminal for what happened at Dresden?

I suppose nothing important was going on at the time.
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Wrong again. I said for bombing civilian areas e.g. Dresden.

Not only Dresden though..

The question was if the Germans had won. Which means the war would have been over according to the questioner. Nothing important going on as you say.

Proving yet again that you have serious comprehension problems.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,895
martcov said:
I doubt whether I would use the same pub as you, so it’s highly unlikely we will meet.
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True. You’d stick to one of the East German skinhead variety
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,896
skybluetony176 said:
I have to say that it’s been amusing watching dumb and dumber make idiots of themselves trying to make out Churchill would have been given a wag of the finger and a nice pension had Germany won the war but in the interest of putting this to bed so the thread can get back on “topic” I have one word. Sonderfahndungslite. Also known as The Black Book. And yes Churchill is in it.
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So you rate the legitimacy of Nazi justice akin to that of the Allied Forces

How fascinating
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,897
Grendel said:
True. You’d stick to one of the East German skinhead variety
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Don’t have those in Cov.
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,898
Grendel said:
So you rate the legitimacy of Nazi justice akin to that of the Allied Forces

How fascinating
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You are worse than Astute. Point out where he said that.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,899
Grendel said:
So you rate the legitimacy of Nazi justice akin to that of the Allied Forces

How fascinating
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What an absolute moron you are. I don’t rate the legitimacy at all. You’ve been proven to be talking bollocks with one word and now you’re trying to fabricate what I’ve said. In the interest of not making yourself look an even bigger twat than you already have I’ll give you one last piece of advice on the subject. When you’re in a hole stop digging.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,900
Come on people this is so boring
 
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martcov

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,901
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on people this is so boring
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Yes. It started off with a simple question and a simple answer.

Descended into a raging rant because someone has a comprehension problem and thought that he had found a massive deception. Only to make a fool of himself.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,902
skybluetony176 said:
What an absolute moron you are. I don’t rate the legitimacy at all. You’ve been proven to be talking bollocks with one word and now you’re trying to fabricate what I’ve said. In the interest of not making yourself look an even bigger twat than you already have I’ll give you one last piece of advice on the subject. When you’re in a hole stop digging.
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Says the poster who once said he’d march proudly beside a tommy Robinson supporter - in the end you either accept the legitimacy of national socialist interpretation and definition of wartime criminality or you do not.

You and Nazi Mart do - I do not
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,903
Grendel said:
Says the poster who once said he’d march proudly beside a tommy Robinson supporter - in the end you either accept the legitimacy of national socialist interpretation and definition of wartime criminality or you do not.

You and Nazi Mart do - I do not
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None of which of course has anything to do with Churchill’s name being on a very well known historical list of people to be arrested on site when the Nazi’s took control of the U.K.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,904
Grendel said:
Nazi Mart
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Come on. Even for you G...
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,905
Grendel said:
Says the poster who once said he’d march proudly beside a tommy Robinson supporter - in the end you either accept the legitimacy of national socialist interpretation and definition of wartime criminality or you do not.

You and Nazi Mart do - I do not
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Who has accepted that? Where? To say the Nazis would have decided who were the war criminals if they had won is not saying you accept their opinion. You and your lying twisting mate are getting worse.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,906
Grendel said:
Says the poster who once said he’d march proudly beside a tommy Robinson supporter - in the end you either accept the legitimacy of national socialist interpretation and definition of wartime criminality or you do not.

You and Nazi Mart do - I do not
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In every political discussion on here, both you and Astute take a more right wing position than I do.

Then you call me a Nazi.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,907
martcov said:
I doubt whether I would use the same pub as you, so it’s highly unlikely we will meet.
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Oh come on. Next time you're due to come to Cov you can message me and we'll meet up. Then you can be as confident as you are no here . Hahaha.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,908
martcov said:
In every political discussion on here, both you and Astute take a more right wing position than I do.

Then you call me a Nazi.
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Isn't that something to be proud of, for someone like you ?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,909
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Oh come on. Next time you're due to come to Cov you can message me and we'll meet up. Then you can be as confident as you are no here . Hahaha.
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Sign me up for some high level political debate. Wheatsheaf, right?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 27, 2019
  • #31,910
skybluetony176 said:
I’m sure I’m going to regret asking but what is the point?

The opposite of what Mart has said is that the Nazi’s wouldn’t have sought retribution from their perceived enemies, which is just a completely mental suggestion.
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Personally, I think there would have been no trials - just firing squads. Nuff said!

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,911
martcov said:
Any proof that it is an absolute lie? No, thought not.
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So I have to prove that something that didn't happen didn't?

If what you are saying is true you would have found lots if evidence. You would have been ramming it down my throat. But you said the Nazis stated that they would have taken Churchill to court on the charge of being a war criminal.

And as I keep reminding you it was Hitler in charge of everything. If even one of his best Generals went against him he would be dead.

Admit you have made a mistake and we can move on. But continue with your lies and I won't drop it. You know what I am like when you come out with lies and misinformation. Just like with the Selmayr debacle where you tried to make out that because the EU commission said nothing was wrong it meant no rules and regulations were broke. And as you know there is much more you have come out with.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,912
martcov said:
Prove that I lied. I can see that you lied with you false quotes about me. It’s in black and white. If I lied, then you can easily find a post to prove it. But you cannot. All mouth and lies.
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You deleted the posts. Then you even lied about that.

But how about when I quoted your posts? You never said anything about it then. If I had changed what you had said you would have mentioned it at the time.

The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

On the third post down on this link you will see where I have quoted you. You ignored this each time. It is one of your posts that you have deleted then said you never made. I haven't called you a liar because of these posts. I have called you a liar because of the lies you have come out with for covering the misinformation you have come out with since to cover it up.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,913
skybluetony176 said:
I have to say that it’s been amusing watching dumb and dumber make idiots of themselves trying to make out Churchill would have been given a wag of the finger and a nice pension had Germany won the war but in the interest of putting this to bed so the thread can get back on “topic” I have one word. Sonderfahndungslite. Also known as The Black Book. And yes Churchill is in it.
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And now back to the truth.

It is frustrating how someone can lie then have people like yourself back him up when it is off topic. And all because he is pro EU whatever like yourself. And yourself? UKIP voter who made racist comments. And once you saw that what you voted for was not what was best for you there was a sudden change of mind. You went from one end of the scale straight to the opposite end of the scale.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,914
martcov said:
Wrong again. I said for bombing civilian areas e.g. Dresden.

Not only Dresden though..

The question was if the Germans had won. Which means the war would have been over according to the questioner. Nothing important going on as you say.

Proving yet again that you have serious comprehension problems.
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Me comprehensive problems? No.

I am picking you up on a lie/misinformation as usual. I said how wrong all killing of civilians was and still is. I said Dresden was wrong. Then out came the uneducated with what happened at Dresden. BSB said it was all us as America only did strategic bombing. But they killed countless thousands who were trying to escape.

As you well know German law doesn't allow people to try and change history. I admire them for this. I am of the same viewpoint. What happened all them years ago shouldn't be held against people of the countries involved. But we need to not change history so lessons can be learned.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,915
martcov said:
You are worse than Astute. Point out where he said that.
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Worse than me? So what have I done other than point out where you are wrong?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,916
skybluetony176 said:
What an absolute moron you are. I don’t rate the legitimacy at all. You’ve been proven to be talking bollocks with one word and now you’re trying to fabricate what I’ve said. In the interest of not making yourself look an even bigger twat than you already have I’ll give you one last piece of advice on the subject. When you’re in a hole stop digging.
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You need to have a word with Mart more like.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,917
martcov said:
Yes. It started off with a simple question and a simple answer.

Descended into a raging rant because someone has a comprehension problem and thought that he had found a massive deception. Only to make a fool of himself.
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Yes you have made a fool of yourself. And if you keep digging you will be in Australia soon.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,918
martcov said:
In every political discussion on here, both you and Astute take a more right wing position than I do.

Then you call me a Nazi.
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Explain why I am right wing.

I look at the evidence on both sides. I mentioned why people voted remain. Not a word from you. I mentioned why people voted leave. This made me anti EU and anti FOM. I mentioned about our population going up. The good you ignored. The bad made me anti EU and anti FOM. I mentioned about the EU. The good was ignored. The bad made me anti EU and anti FOM. I mentioned the lies from leave before the referendum. You ignored this. I mentioned the lies from remain. This made me anti EU and anti FOM.

I could go on all day.

Isn't it strange how I have called just about everything right though including that we won't be leaving the EU next month or without a deal when everyone was saying the opposite.

As you know I am looking at moving my family to France. Yet you come out with your crap about me on being anti FOM. Your problem is that you are not a realist. You only want to consider what you want. Everyone else is wrong or uneducated.

Yet again I will say it clearly. As a whole I think we are better off staying in the EU. But that doesn't mean that everyone is better off staying in the EU. If we had a government that built enough homes and kept up with the infrastructure it would be a different matter. But because of the cuts we don't even repair potholes in roads. The needy are not looked after like they used to be. Tax is kept low as it is a vote winner. Less income less investment. Public sector workers have been without pay rises for years. Now they have got well under inflation even though it is low.

Maybe if you lived in the UK you would have a better idea what is going on.
 

Astute

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,919
SkyblueBazza said:
Personally, I think there would have been no trials - just firing squads. Nuff said!
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I said that if Germany won the war the Jews would have all been murdered and we would either have been speaking German or been murdered ourselves.

Mart said maybe......But

He didn't want what most probably would have happened. He had a point to get across.
 

dutchman

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  • Feb 28, 2019
  • #31,920
skybluetony176 said:
I have to say that it’s been amusing watching dumb and dumber make idiots of themselves trying to make out Churchill would have been given a wag of the finger and a nice pension had Germany won the war but in the interest of putting this to bed so the thread can get back on “topic” I have one word. Sonderfahndungslite. Also known as The Black Book. And yes Churchill is in it.
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And so were those Brits who condemned the area bombing of Germany such as Vera Brittain.
 
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