Ian1779
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I agree - but who just told everyone they were for 21st Century politics as the old system was broken....
I agree - but who just told everyone they were for 21st Century politics as the old system was broken....Yes, but in history virtually no one has done that.
To be fair, if we had a strong, united government to lead Brexit negotiations, there wouldn't be any need to pull the brakes on.
IMO of course.
I agree - but who just told everyone they were for 21st Century as the old system was broken....
For those who are old enough to remember him it is a disastrous move for Labour. And an idiotic move by Corbyn as it gives the media yet more ammunition.
I am not arguing. It is a sorry state. There is no silver lining at the moment.
They are all about protecting their own interests. The fact they even get the media attention is a nonsense.
And as a Labour supporter it’s embarrassing to see our former MP’s sharing a platform with Soubry who has just defended austerity saying it was ‘necessary’ in their press conference.
Balls and integrity. Anyone anyone literally anyone???Yes, but the thing is that there is no charismatic leader anywhere in sight who can get up and say „Brexit is a huge mistake, let’s put it back to the people before even more damage is done“. We need someone with balls to pull the Rees Mogg’s and the BoJos apart and wipe the floor with the turdish demagogue Farage. So much BS being exposed on a daily basis. We need someone with balls to call the bastards out.
Realism at its finest. Has anyone ever resigned the whip and gone to a by-election ever????? If not then custom and practiceWell if nothing confirms the point further... these MP’s want the public to choose now they are fully informed... yet not one will hold a by-election.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Protecting their own interests?They are all about protecting their own interests. The fact they even get the media attention is a nonsense.
And as a Labour supporter it’s embarrassing to see our former MP’s sharing a platform with Soubry who has just defended austerity saying it was ‘necessary’ in their press conference.
Hatton suspended amid rumours of another 10 defections from labourProtecting their own interests?
Most have a massive majority as a Labour MP. Protecting their own interests is giving up on a massive majority?
Hasn't bringing back Hatton made you think that the many that have spoken out about the way Corbyn is running our party could be telling the truth?
But no. Let's blame the media. Let's blame those speaking out. Let's blame the MP's leaving the Labour party. The skeletons in Corbyns closet are all false. Hatton rejoining the Labour party after being kicked out over 30 years ago is just a coincidence although Corbyn tried to overturn Labour kicking him out.
The Tories are in a right mess. Why isn't Labour running away with it?
You're like that bloke in the Harry Enfield show , the shouty bloke in the pub who puts the world to rights. The daily bullshit comes from the parrots who keep squarking for a "people's vote"Yes, but the thing is that there is no charismatic leader anywhere in sight who can get up and say „Brexit is a huge mistake, let’s put it back to the people before even more damage is done“. We need someone with balls to pull the Rees Mogg’s and the BoJos apart and wipe the floor with the turdish demagogue Farage. So much BS being exposed on a daily basis. We need someone with balls to call the bastards out.
Derek Hatton suspended by Labour
Not sure what’s wrong with his tweet
Protecting their own interests is them being unaccountable in a job that pays in 75K + expenses (and that’s a hell of a lot more) whilst simultaneously being paid ad hoc for thinktanks and ‘consultancy work’ at a rate of £500 an hour. And when the MP salary goes they will have this and more to fall back on ad infinitum. And yet they will still sit around in their clinics bemoaning that everyone else has politics wrong and they are the only ones right.Protecting their own interests?
Most have a massive majority as a Labour MP. Protecting their own interests is giving up on a massive majority?
Hasn't bringing back Hatton made you think that the many that have spoken out about the way Corbyn is running our party could be telling the truth?
But no. Let's blame the media. Let's blame those speaking out. Let's blame the MP's leaving the Labour party. The skeletons in Corbyns closet are all false. Hatton rejoining the Labour party after being kicked out over 30 years ago is just a coincidence although Corbyn tried to overturn Labour kicking him out.
The Tories are in a right mess. Why isn't Labour running away with it?
For your information go back to the start of the thread & you can see for yourself.You voted remain. Of course you did. Taking lessons from the neutral guy. Here's the fucking catastrophe that all the remoaners bored on about but I never voted for it, I'm just a martyr for democracy. Fuck off.
Just as well I didn't waste any time on thatYou really want to read up on him. He is a bastxxd.
You're like that bloke in the Harry Enfield show , the shouty bloke in the pub who puts the world to rights. The daily bullshit comes from the parrots who keep squarking for a "people's vote"
You brush off the points I have made then push forward the ones you want to make. And then you make other things up to back your claims.Protecting their own interests is them being unaccountable in a job that pays in 75K + expenses (and that’s a hell of a lot more) whilst simultaneously being paid ad hoc for thinktanks and ‘consultancy work’ at a rate of £500 an hour. And when the MP salary goes they will have this and more to fall back on ad infinitum. And yet they will still sit around in their clinics bemoaning that everyone else has politics wrong and they are the only ones right.
For someone that appears to champion the transparency of politics you don’t seem to get this most obvious notion. I find it odd.
They are speaking out against anti-semitism yet they are embroiled in a racism storm after 5 hours. They’ve brushed that one under the carpet, yet have the gall to accuse Labour and Corbyn of the same.
As I said before - I don’t know about Hatton, I’m too young to know about it. But he’s suspended now anyway.
Everyone is in a mess. But to suggest this band of non-principled clowns is a breath of fresh air to politics is absurd. And yes it’s all about the status quo for them.
Angry Frank is a leaver for sure.
If 20 gazillion Romanians try to come to the U.K. to work in the service industries, pick fruit, work in nursing homes, fixing things, doing the jobs we don’t want to do ourselves all while paying into our tax system I’d say NO! Get back to your own country you tax paying void fillers.
I assume there's some context somewhere? Or they're looking for an excuse to stop it.Derek Hatton suspended by Labour
Not sure what’s wrong with his tweet
Can you think of any reason why Hatton should be allowed back into the Labour party?I assume there's some context somewhere? Or they're looking for an excuse to stop it.
To be clear, not sure Hatton should be returning (although... Nellist back would be an interesting one!) but am not sure at what level we restrict criticism of states.
Because he believes in the Labour movement?Can you think of any reason why Hatton should be allowed back into the Labour party?
I'm sure he shouldn't be allowed back in the Labour party. I have had enough of those with a dodgy past taking over my party. His last time in Labour told us the whole story. People have lost faith. We have no chance of a Labour government when it is being run the way it is now. It took one of the best politicians of my time to rebuild the Labour party after Hatton and others destroyed it. And the problem is that I can't think of one coming through. We are going to be left with a Tory government for many years if nothing changes.Because he believes in the Labour movement?
It'd be pretty crazy for me to justify someone coming in however, when I've just said I'm not sure they should be returning.
Because he believes in the Labour movement?
It'd be pretty crazy for me to justify someone coming in however, when I've just said I'm not sure they should be returning.
Well he believes in bullying thuggery and general loutishness - as well as feathering is own bed - so yes he should fit in nicely
Because he believes in the Labour movement?
It'd be pretty crazy for me to justify someone coming in however, when I've just said I'm not sure they should be returning.
Crikey. It’s almost as if he’s a politician. Maybe that’s the career he should pursue. Best thing he can do is join a political party.
But, now my pub is host to the young liberals for their „pub nights“.... So, I‚m probably going to be disappointed again..
I assume there's some context somewhere? Or they're looking for an excuse to stop it.
To be clear, not sure Hatton should be returning (although... Nellist back would be an interesting one!) but am not sure at what level we restrict criticism of states.
Get some Ricin in especially.
Sounds like when we walked into a pub in Bristol and there were lads sat in there drinking soft drinks playing board games at 11pm on a Saturday
In my experience they draw far more in in-work benefits than they pay into the tax system.
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