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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (15 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,591
martcov said:
The problem was caused by Brexit. Not remainers, or EU apologists as you call them.
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You defended Cameron when I blamed him earlier.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,592
martcov said:
Did you actually read them?
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Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,593
Astute said:
Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.
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No, but I checked one. Civitas: Civitas Institute - SourceWatch
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,594
Astute said:
You defended Cameron when I blamed him earlier.
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No I didn’t. I don’t know what you were on about connecting him to lies from the leave campaign. He is not one of the liars referred to by Tusk. That is not defending Cameron, that is correcting you.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,595
Astute said:
The BBC is funded by the public who have no choice on paying.

So Andrew Neil and Radio 4 are as big as the BBC?
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Part of it.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,596
Astute said:
Oh yes.

Are you going to defend them and reply to each one especially the millions given to the BBC by the EU.
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Oh... and another one: Revealed: how the UK’s powerful right-wing think tanks and Conservative MPs work together
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,597
Astute said:
Put the French face on both sides and you have it right. But it will stay a shitfest for as long as we have EU apologists having their say.
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It's those remainreferendumbasses
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,598
martcov said:
Jesus wept. Do you know what Tusk‘s position is? H is elected to represent the views of the Council. 27 States which you claim he doesn’t represent. He is their spokesperson.
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So they wanted him to make the comments he did as he speaks for them?

And that means his dodgy past means nothing?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,599
martcov said:
Oh... and another one: Revealed: how the UK’s powerful right-wing think tanks and Conservative MPs work together
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Great link. Donate to us having a go at those who want Brexit.....

So how about the EU giving the BBC 4.8m € and the BBC accepting it?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,600
martcov said:
No, but I checked one. Civitas: Civitas Institute - SourceWatch
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SourceWatch is funded by George Soros. What a surprise.

And what about the rest of them?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,601
martcov said:
No I didn’t. I don’t know what you were on about connecting him to lies from the leave campaign. He is not one of the liars referred to by Tusk. That is not defending Cameron, that is correcting you.
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Are you saying that Cameron was truthful?
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,602
Astute said:
So the BBC being warned by the official watchdog on its bias means nothing and isn't true?

And look who agrees with you. What a surprise....
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HAHA! I thought Sickboy said it is bias so gave him a like! I read that wrong, I believe the BBC is bias and have said so before in this thread.
In my opinion, despite what some people say, it's anti Corbyn, but I don't think it's pro tory. I definitely think it prefers a centrist Blairite type of politician, (which I've also said before).

You can keep the like Sickboy!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,603
martcov said:
Have you listened to her on YouTube? Trump apologist. Melanie Philips is not a good source.
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Says who?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,604
And as for bias the channel 4 news programme is laughable - it’s like Russian State News
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,605
Sky Blue Pete said:
I don’t get that at all, it’s ok but what facts are there that show the bbc is biased to stay in the Eu? And I think there are more pro brexit publications in the press than remain. But none are balanced really
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They’ve had far more leave panelist’s on question time than remain and straight after question time is a program presented by Andrew Neil who’s very much a leaver as is half his guest presenters and guests full stop. If they are biased it’s towards leave on that basis. As Clint kept asking where’s the positive stories, they barely exist. Are the BBC supposed to fabricate some so they report an equal amount of pro and against brexit stories? Maybe we should gag them so they can only produce a anti leave article when a pro leave article is available? It’s a classic case of shooting the messenger.
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,606
Astute said:
You ask the question then give the answer.

Most countries if not all in the EU want a deal with us. But they have no say. It is down to people like Tusk who has a dubious background. Others at the top of the EU also have a dubious background. Countries of the EU keep banging on about changes need to be made in the EU. But it is up to those with dubious backgrounds to relinquish power.

Yes Mart. Dubious backgrounds. Shall we debate it yet again?
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So not professionally worded equals outrage?

Okay.

 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,607
Astute said:
So the BBC being warned by the official watchdog on its bias means nothing and isn't true?

And look who agrees with you. What a surprise....
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You’re backing yourself up with Guido, says it all.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,608
Astute said:
The Telegraph and The Times? Why no mention of them?

Would you like a bigger list? Just took the first 3. And not on the same reason either.
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For someone who claims to be impartial, you don’t post a balanced selection of sources
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,609
clint van damme said:
HAHA! I thought Sickboy said it is bias so gave him a like! I read that wrong, I believe the BBC is bias and have said so before in this thread.
In my opinion, despite what some people say, it's anti Corbyn, but I don't think it's pro tory. I definitely think it prefers a centrist Blairite type of politician, (which I've also said before).

You can keep the like Sickboy!
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Haha cheers! The notion is that it’s pro-remain, which it isn’t. The more extreme elements of both sides seem to think it’s biased, so I’m not surprised you think it is.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,610
Sick Boy said:
For someone who claims to be impartial, you don’t post a balanced selection of sources
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The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,611
Bank forecasts worst UK growth since 2009

Nothing to do with brexit, fake news and/or bias from the independent Bank of England.
Nothing to see here
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,612
Grendel said:
The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject
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For real????
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,613
Grendel said:
Says who?
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Me.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,614
Grendel said:
The Times and the Telegraph are balanced sources on this subject
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Telegraph is totally Brexit.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,615
Grendel said:
And as for bias the channel 4 news programme is laughable - it’s like Russian State News
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Because they question leavers BS?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,616
Astute said:
To take jobs out of the EU?
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Crap. Faragist. To keep a good economic relationship to neighbouring countries we trade with.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,617
Sky Blue Pete said:
Bank forecasts worst UK growth since 2009

Nothing to do with brexit, fake news and/or bias from the independent Bank of England.
Nothing to see here
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Clearly the biased BBC coerced the BOE to say that and surpress the real story which is everything is rosie and it’s all thanks to brexit.
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,618
martcov said:
Telegraph is totally Brexit.
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Both papers have publicly stated that they’re pro brexit.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,619
martcov said:
Because they question leavers BS?
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No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,620
Grendel said:
No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious
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He was a thorn in the side of Blair’s government wasn’t he? He’s been highly critical of Corbyn also and especially over brexit. Is he a member of the Labour Party? I’ll have to take your word for that but his page on Channel 4 news doesn’t suggest he’s pro labour Gary Gibbon, Political Editor – Channel 4 News in fact he seems very proud of being anything but.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,621
skybluetony176 said:
Both papers have publicly stated that they’re pro brexit.
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Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,622
Grendel said:
No because the political editor admits to being anti Tory and a member of the Labour Party - the bias is hilarious
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I like watching the leavers forced to answer awkward questions. Did you see Farage being interviewed on Irish TV recently? Called out for his BS.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,623
Grendel said:
Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit
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That explains why the let Melanie Philips in.... or not.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,624
Grendel said:
Hello Tony how are you? Still a little light on factual accuracy I see

The Times goes for remain, days after Sun backed Brexit
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Fair enough. I stand corrected.

Talking about being light on factual accuracy have you had chance to read the document I PM’d you?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #30,625
skybluetony176 said:
Clearly the biased BBC coerced the BOE to say that and surpress the real story which is everything is rosie and it’s all thanks to brexit.
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Project fear in overdrive...;-) he wasn’t elected to the post and he is a foreigner... doesn’t understand British culture... haha
 
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