There are some on here who would like to portray the Brexit vote as a racist vote or one made by people who'd been deceived. They like to confuse matters by introducing 'versions' of Brexit; soft or hard. Nonsense of course.
The fact is that people voted to take back control of their country. Its laws, borders, trade etc. They decided that they didn't want to pay billions every year to be members of a corrupt and crumbling institution. They voted for the UK to take back its sovereignty. That's what the Brexit vote meant and everyone knows it.
However I have believed for some time that that won't happen, at least in the short term. It won't happen because the EU tentacles are too deeply woven into the fabric of powerful companies, institutions, organisations and individuals. People who benefit personally from the system and couldn't give a stuff about the wishes of the masses. The list of failed hypocritical lefty ex-politicians who've been whining since June 23rd is enough to make my skin crawl. Mandelson, Blair, Kinnock, Ashdown, Miliband, Clegg. Enough, enough.
The EU won't change because it is run by the likes of the very people I've mentioned above. So it will inevitably fail. It's inevitable. People across Europe hate the EU. The will of the people will eventually prevail.
Meanwhile in Animal Farm.This is starting to feel a bit like 1984.
Yet now they are moaning because that same country's court has said that same country's laws need to be observed.The fact is that people voted to take back control of their country.
The British elite in the form of privileged public schoolboys e.g. Johnson and Farage, billionaire newspaper owner and the Tory party all seem annoyed that judges, including the Master of the Rolls confirmed that parliament is sovereign and cannot be bypassed by a Middle Ages royal prerogative. The question that I am asking as one of the people, is why? When the referendum so clear a mandate is, why are they so worried that the 'people's' elected representatives may soften or ditch Brexit?
I would have thought that an endorsement by parliament would be great for the leavers. A clear mandate for the government and the terms of Brexit agreed upon. Couldn't be better for the leavers.
Because the political class don't want us to leave the EU and all it's benefits that's why we are apprehensive. More mps want to stay in the EU.
Are you trying to say the only Brexit can be a hard Brexit?
EU Council President Donald Tusk said it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37650077
'Hard Brexit' or 'no Brexit' for Britain - Tusk
He also said they could come back anytime
Johnson and Farage belong to the political class. The Tory party is the political class. I just don't get it. The judges stopped the political class ruling per prerogative and it's meltdown in the leavers camp. Rejoice the British system is working..
I voted remain but regardless, this was the right decision and part of the our constitution which has been in place for nearly 400 years. To make big changes to policy you need to wrote legislation, that legislation has to go through the house of commons and the house of lords.
Its not going to stop brexit.
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Yes, the sovereignty of parliament was established by the civil war. Parliament has precedence over a royal prerogative. Why is May trying to overrule parliament? Why not accept the confirmation of our sovereign parliament? It is bad enough trying to claim 52% 48% as a mandate ( latest poll shows 51% 49% the other way ), but to try and bypass the elected parliament is disgusting.
No mandate Grendel
Why mention a "poll"
One party had a referendum in their manifesto, that party was elected. Another party wanted to leave and beat the one most pro euro party in the popular vote.
This isn't Ireland where the electorate were forced to vote again to get the "right" answer.
Federalism is the only disgusting thing about politics - soon the shackles will be off and we won't be the last.
The difference between leave and remain was 2.5% of the eligible electorate. More people didn't vote than voted either leave or remain. Its a mandate of course but its certainly not any sort of landslide.It's the biggest mandate in British political history
Interesting, why do you select them? They are both countries where polling (as reliable an indicator as we have) show support for EU membership has surged since the brexit vote.Yes I agree with this. Britain won't be the last to leave the EU. Denmark or Sweden next if I was a gambler.
It's the biggest mandate in British political history
Why mention a "poll"
One party had a referendum in their manifesto, that party was elected. Another party wanted to leave and beat the one most pro euro party in the popular vote.
This isn't Ireland where the electorate were forced to vote again to get the "right" answer.
Federalism is the only disgusting thing about politics - soon the shackles will be off and we won't be the last.
Yes I agree with this. Britain won't be the last to leave the EU. Denmark or Sweden next if I was a gambler.
Meanwhile in Animal Farm.
I think you're right. Plus we'll have the benefit of brother Sickboy not feeling the need to leave the country. It's a win win.
It's disappointing to see some leave supporters now behaving as badly as the remainers. There was some shadow cabinet Brown lookalike on the news this morning pointing out that you don't have to reveal everything; but let's go through the correct process.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - JFK
We've already a MP shot dead in the street by a mentally disturbed individual who was no doubt wound up by the camapign. Do you believe that British law should no longer be followed by the government?
We've already a MP shot dead in the street by a mentally disturbed individual who was no doubt wound up by the camapign. Do you believe that British law should no longer be followed by the government?
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