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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (19 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,971
Grendel said:
Which they can and will change when they are able
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So a massive majority is allowed to change its mind but a small majority isn’t?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,972
Grendel said:
Ah the 4th Reich speaks
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No it’s called honouring commitments. Von Ribbentrop was hanged for breaking them amongst other things.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,973
martcov said:
I am sure that any constitution or parliament in the world does not operate the same as on the day it was grounded. Things evolve. Our sovereign Parliament has ratified every change . I voted in 1975 for the EEC and haven’t changed my mind. My life is easier ( Travel and residency ) and my business ( no more Carnets ). It’s all bollocks. If Farage and the likes of him weren’t spouting crap, you wouldn’t know whether we are in or out of the EU in normal life. Except for EU citizens as neighbours. These have now been blamed for all ills caused by austerity and government ideology. But normal life goes on and the UK has it’s own sovereign parliament. You would never have thought of the curvature of bananas without Johnson. Because it doesn’t matter a fxxk.
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So sovereign parliament should act and deliver Brexit then?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,974
Astute said:
Opinion polls will most probably include people that have come here to live. Of course they will be pro EU. But they are not allowed to vote.
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I am also not allowed to vote although, I, like them lose my FOM rights.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,975
martcov said:
No it’s called honouring commitments. Von Ribbentrop was hanged for breaking them amongst other things.
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Sounded very sinister the way you said it. What if they didn’t and delivered the budget what would the EU do to the people of Italy?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,976
Grendel said:
So sovereign parliament should act and deliver Brexit then?
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No. They are all remoaners.... according to posters on here...
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,977
Deleted member 5849 said:
I can safely say your questions skew the results.

Although for what it's worth, this is why a referendum on a complex subject with many shades of grey was a stupid idea in the first place. Somewhere... somebody will always vote for something, and get something other than what they thought they were voting for. Politicians are elected to make these decisions, and this whole mess shows why they should be left to, whilst being held to account by their electorate.
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I just don't have your confidence that many of them vote for anything based on the interest of the Nation anymore.........only mainly to serve their own parties and personal political/financial ambitions.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,978
Grendel said:
Sounded very sinister the way you said it. What if they didn’t and delivered the budget what would the EU do to the people of Italy?
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Nothing. What do you expect? House to house searches?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,979
martcov said:
No. They are all remoaners.... according to posters on here...
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That doesn’t make sense. You are opposed to yes no referendums aren’t you?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,980
martcov said:
I am also not allowed to vote although, I, like them lose my FOM rights.
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One positive of this is that it seems that the 15 year rule will be scrapped.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,981
Astute said:
Opinion polls will most probably include people that have come here to live. Of course they will be pro EU. But they are not allowed to vote.
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Is there any evidence for that?
Why would they conduct opinion polls of voters and ask people who are ineligible to vote?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,982
Ashdown said:
I just don't have your confidence that many of them vote for anything based on the interest of the Nation anymore.........only mainly to serve their own parties and personal political/financial ambitions.
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But that's where the opportunity to vote them out comes in.

Biggest problem is the percentage who vote blindly for a party, regardless of the individual's policies, and whether the party still stands for what it did when voted for previously.

That means half the MPs could kill children with tigers in schools, and still get re-elected!
 
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Ashdown

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  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,983
Sick Boy said:
One positive of this is that it seems that the 15 year rule will be scrapped.
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Oh and I'm with you on the Londoncentric comments again............as through all the political chaos they slipped in yet another bailout to Crossrail of £1.4 billion.........Image what £15 billion could achieve somewhere North of Watford ?!
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,984
Deleted member 5849 said:
But that's where the opportunity to vote them out comes in.

Biggest problem is the percentage who vote blindly for a party, regardless of the individual's policies, and whether the party still stands for what it did when voted for previously.

That means half the MPs could kill children with tigers in schools, and still get re-elected!
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A bit like Labour in Coventry you mean but they were helping kill football clubs with Wasps ?!
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,985
Grendel said:
That doesn’t make sense. You are opposed to yes no referendums aren’t you?
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I am just saying that parliament would have us remain without a referendum if they could ( according to some on here, and they are probably right ), but since we had a referendum to get us into this mess, only a referendum can take us out.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,986
Grendel said:
Sounded very sinister the way you said it. What if they didn’t and delivered the budget what would the EU do to the people of Italy?
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The sinister bit was in response to your leaver answer of 4th Reich. I was pointing out 3rd Reich experience of Realpolitik ending in a disaster. The EU is not the 4th Reich as you well know. For all it’s faults, which there are some, it is benign and consensual.
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,987
martcov said:
I am just saying that parliament would have us remain without a referendum if they could ( according to some on here, and they are probably right ), but since we had a referendum to get us into this mess, only a referendum can take us out.
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Fucking stuck record !
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,988
martcov said:
I am sure that any constitution or parliament in the world does not operate the same as on the day it was grounded. Things evolve. Our sovereign Parliament has ratified every change . I voted in 1975 for the EEC and haven’t changed my mind. My life is easier ( Travel and residency ) and my business ( no more Carnets ). It’s all bollocks. If Farage and the likes of him weren’t spouting crap, you wouldn’t know whether we are in or out of the EU in normal life. Except for EU citizens as neighbours. These have now been blamed for all ills caused by austerity and government ideology. But normal life goes on and the UK has it’s own sovereign parliament. You would never have thought of the curvature of bananas without Johnson. Because it doesn’t matter a fxxk.
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Do you get aroused when you write this waffling tosh ?
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,989
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Do you get aroused when you write this waffling tosh ?
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Keeps mentioning the shape of bananas at every opportunity.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,990
Ashdown said:
A bit like Labour in Coventry you mean but they were helping kill football clubs with Wasps ?!
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It's fair to say Geoffrey Robinson hasn't merited his seat for a fair while.

But he's not alone... across both parties!
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,991
martcov said:
I am just saying that parliament would have us remain without a referendum if they could ( according to some on here, and they are probably right ), but since we had a referendum to get us into this mess, only a referendum can take us out.
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referendumreferendumreferendumreferendumreferendum………….
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,992
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
referendumreferendumreferendumreferendumreferendum………….
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Why do you bother posting this sort of nonsense? If you have zero interest in contributing anything meaningful, then what’s the point?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,993
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Do you get aroused when you write this waffling tosh ?
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F off. Twat.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,994
Ashdown said:
Keeps mentioning the shape of bananas at every opportunity.
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No. You’re getting confused with BoJo.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,995
Sick Boy said:
Why do you bother posting this sort of nonsense? If you have zero interest in contributing anything meaningful, then what’s the point?
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…..Haha. Just picked it up from your good self.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,996
martcov said:
F off. Twat.
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Oh that's disappointing. I expected the usual 500 words essay.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,997
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
referendumreferendumreferendumreferendumreferendum………….
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You really are thick. Just a wum. Yet another embarrassment for leavers. Don’t ask me why remainers sneer at leavers. People like you really are a disgrace. I don’t begrudge people like Grendel a vote, but thick fxxkers like you are a waste of voting rights.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,998
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Oh that's disappointing. I expected the usual 500 words essay.
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2 suffice for wankers like you.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #25,999
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
…..Haha. Just picked it up from your good self.
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You’re a pretty shit WUM, to be honest.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,000
Sick Boy said:
You’re a pretty shit WUM, to be honest.
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Honesty is the best policy.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,001
Ashdown said:
Fucking stuck record !
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Answering the same question as always.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,002
martcov said:
2 suffice for wankers like you.
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You'd know all about those.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,003
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Honesty is the best policy.
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Go down the pub and have an angry argument down there. Hopefully someone will smack you.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,004
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
You'd know all about those.
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Yes, as I say, I’ve met hundreds like you over the years.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 10, 2018
  • #26,005
martcov said:
You really are thick. Just a wum. Yet another embarrassment for leavers. Don’t ask me why remainers sneer at leavers. People like you really are a disgrace. I don’t begrudge people like Grendel a vote, but thick fxxkers like you are a waste of voting rights.
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HAHAHA. I am a disgrace, but I go to work 5 days a week. To be mentioned in the same breath as the legendary Grendel is okay with me. He'll be mighty pleased that you respect him, I'm sure.
 
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