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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (13 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Astute

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  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,761
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm back ! And what a busy and extremely indulgent day you have had on here desperately trying to score points against everyone. This particular reply made me laugh. It's lovely the way you tell people exactly what they tried to do even though they already know.
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Yes just a usual day on here. Trying to have a debate but just getting the normal on how bad it is for the UK.

Maybe one day we might be able to have a proper debate.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,762
Astute said:
No. You are like Mart. EU good UK bad. And you don't care what you say or what you use as so called evidence. Like your link saying about the chances of recession through the EU. You used it against the UK. But the UK is doing better than expected. So all you did was put focus on how dodgy countries in the EU are looking. But you thought you would tell us how bad it looks for us using it.
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Again putting words in people’s mouths and telling them what they’re thinking even though you haven’t actually asked. Are you even aware that you’re doing it?
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,763
skybluetony176 said:
Again putting words in people’s mouths and telling them what they’re thinking even though you haven’t actually asked. Are you even aware that you’re doing it?
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Yet again it isn't what you are thinking. It is what you are saying. Have you forgotten that everyone on here can read?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,764
Astute said:
Scoured?

How many links would you like?

Redirect Notice

UPDATE 2-German institutes warn of recession if trade conflict escalates

Recession watch: which nations' GDP is still going down?

Germany GDP Growth Rate | 2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Forecasts cut: German economic institutes warn of recession if trade dispute worsens

Fiscal fillips: Berlin should brace for economic downturn, Bundesbank chief warns

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Is Europe Headed for a Recession? If So, Can the Euro Survive?

German Economy Shrinks, Raising Recession Worry

Would you like any more? Not scoured the net yet.

But let's forget about Germany. We will be happy for you to tell us how strong the EU is and how weak the UK is.
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That recessions watch link is over two years old by the way. Funny you keep accusing others of not reading what they link yet twice tonight you’ve produced old data thinking it’s current. Still, two years old is better than 17. We could call that progress but it’s more likely luck.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,765
skybluetony176 said:
That recessions watch link is over two years old by the way. Funny you keep accusing others of not reading what they link yet twice tonight you’ve produced old data thinking it’s current. Still, two years old is better than 17. We could call that progress but it’s more likely luck.
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Oh yeah. All is well in the EU and Germany. The UK is fucked.

I can tell the same lies as you if I try. Are you happy now?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,766
Astute said:
Yes just a usual day on here. Trying to have a debate but just getting the normal on how bad it is for the UK.

Maybe one day we might be able to have a proper debate.
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As long as you continually offer an alternative point of view some who dominate this thread will simply want an argument for the sake of it. It's a matter of life and death to them.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,767
Astute said:
Yet again it isn't what you are thinking. It is what you are saying. Have you forgotten that everyone on here can read?
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If anything you should actually be saying it’s about what I’m not saying, not about what I’m saying.

I said people are talking about the possibility of us heading into a recession. The article says that. Not what I’m thinking, what the article says. It also talks about the possibility of the EU going into recession and also states non of it is brexit related.

I didn’t say about the EU and I didn’t say about it not being brexit related. I linked what I assumed you would think is a neutral article and somehow you’ve turned it into something I think, even though you haven’t asked me what I think. You’ve turned it into what I say even though if anything it’s more about what I didn’t say.

You carry on twisting, putting words into people’s mouths and telling them what they’re thinking all you like.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,768
Astute said:
Oh yeah. All is well in the EU and Germany. The UK is fucked.

I can tell the same lies as you if I try. Are you happy now?
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You dismiss the article I linked earlier then that says a potential recession is heading to all?

Not sure what any of that has too do with out of date data that you’ve mistaken for current data though. What’s the next Astute exclusive we can expect? War breaking out as appeasement fails? Winston Churchill to be new PM. Maybe man lands on the moon?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,769
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
As long as you continually offer an alternative point of view some who dominate this thread will simply want an argument for the sake of it. It's a matter of life and death to them.
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This is what happens when I try to have a debate with those I have blocked. It is nothing but a joke. They don't want a debate.

It is funny when they show a link that shows things are looking dodgy in the EU but think it looks bad for the UK. Or those who blame Italy but then say they never made that comment although it is there in black and white.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,770
Astute said:
Yet again it isn't what you are thinking. It is what you are saying. Have you forgotten that everyone on here can read?
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How are you with reading dates?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,771
skybluetony176 said:
How are you with reading dates?
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So all the links were old?

Of course not. But carry on. We wouldn't expect anything else from you.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,772
Astute said:
This is what happens when I try to have a debate with those I have blocked. It is nothing but a joke. They don't want a debate.

It is funny when they show a link that shows things are looking dodgy in the EU but think it looks bad for the UK. Or those who blame Italy but then say they never made that comment although it is there in black and white.
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It does look bad for the U.K. I can’t help it if you’ve assumed I haven’t read the whole article and decided I didn’t know what it said then used that misplaced assumption to tell me what I’m thinking even though you don’t know what I’m thinking and then keep going on about what I said when actually if you applied some common sense to it it’s actually what I didn’t say.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,773
Astute said:
So all the links were old?

Of course not. But carry on. We wouldn't expect anything else from you.
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I never said they all were. Putting words into my mouth again. Twisting. I’ve said two of your links are out of date, which they are. One by 17 years and one by 2 years. The problem for you is you’re posting them in the belief that they’re current while claiming you’re the only one who knows what they’re going on. You even admitted you hadn’t read one. Chances are you haven’t read any of them. Even the newest ones are months old and things have moved on. Trumps apparently made a deal with China on automotive industry and he’s due to have talks with German car manufacturers in the coming days. Rumour is he wants them to increase production at their American plants to create jobs. Germany and the EU are concerned about Trumps tariffs and impending trade wars. He’s raining back on that now he’s made his point. Let’s see how this pans out. You certainly can’t take articles from 2001 and 2016 to try and guess that.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,774
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm back ! And what a busy and extremely indulgent day you have had on here desperately trying to score points against everyone. This particular reply made me laugh. It's lovely the way you tell people exactly what they tried to do even though they already know.
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Just watching the March on the news. Were you there?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,775
Astute said:
Yes just a usual day on here. Trying to have a debate but just getting the normal on how bad it is for the UK.

Maybe one day we might be able to have a proper debate.
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No. Just you scouring the internet for bad facts about the EU.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,776
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
I'm back ! And what a busy and extremely indulgent day you have had on here desperately trying to score points against everyone. This particular reply made me laugh. It's lovely the way you tell people exactly what they tried to do even though they already know.
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He didn’t read it the first time. So he didn’t know.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,777
martcov said:
Just watching the March on the news. Were you there?
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How many were there in the end?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,778
Astute said:
Google said last month.

Everyone else can see the other link. It is saying about possible recession in Germany. It shows a big slowdown in their economy. But you can't twist it to the UK.


Unexpected decline in German industry output hints at economic slowdown | Reuters

Here it is again.
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One opinion. There are others, but you tried to push it with another link. A lot depends on Brexit and Trump.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,779
skybluetony176 said:
You even admitted you hadn’t read one. Chances are you haven’t read any of them. Even the newest ones are months old.
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Did I?

Are they?

Yeah OK. Take another look. And show me where I said I haven't read them. That is what you do. Post a link that said about EU countries having a downturn but thinking that it said it for the UK.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,780
Astute said:
Scoured?

How many links would you like?

Redirect Notice

UPDATE 2-German institutes warn of recession if trade conflict escalates

Recession watch: which nations' GDP is still going down?

Germany GDP Growth Rate | 2018 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

Forecasts cut: German economic institutes warn of recession if trade dispute worsens

Fiscal fillips: Berlin should brace for economic downturn, Bundesbank chief warns

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Is Europe Headed for a Recession? If So, Can the Euro Survive?

German Economy Shrinks, Raising Recession Worry

Would you like any more? Not scoured the net yet.

But let's forget about Germany. We will be happy for you to tell us how strong the EU is and how weak the UK is.
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Yes. Scoured as I said. You are so very neutral, and no I am not scouring the Internet to outpoint you. Have you read the links?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,781
martcov said:
Just watching the March on the news. Were you there?
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Bloody hell, you were gone for the best part of two hours. That must be some sort of record. Was it a swingers march ? Did you join in ?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,782
Astute said:
Oh yeah. All is well in the EU and Germany. The UK is fucked.

I can tell the same lies as you if I try. Are you happy now?
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According to you you do as you are neutral and always post both sides point of view.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,783
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Bloody hell, you were gone for the best part of two hours. That must be some sort of record. Was it a swingers march ? Did you join in ?
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Are you timing me now? FFS this is getting bad.
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,784
skybluetony176 said:
How many were there in the end?
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Depends who you believe. 3000 Tommy 15000 Opposition. But, Dart will come out with a different total.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,785
martcov said:
Yes. Scoured as I said. You are so very neutral, and no I am not scouring the Internet to outpoint you. Have you read the links?
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You know I have. But of course Tony would say differently as he always does. Something else you both have in common.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,786
martcov said:
According to you you do as you are neutral and always post both sides point of view.
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Or post the truth when you and your buddies come out with your lies/twisting of the truth.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,787
martcov said:
Are you timing me now? FFS this is getting bad.
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It is terrible that you were away for that length of time. Did you have to do some work ?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,788
Astute said:
Did I?

Are they?

Yeah OK. Take another look. And show me where I said I haven't read them. That is what you do. Post a link that said about EU countries having a downturn but thinking that it said it for the UK.
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You said and I quote “Google said last month“. The date of 2001 was at the very top of the article. If you had have read it you would have seen the date as you started reading it.

You then link another article that’s dated 2016, maybe that’s Google’s fault again but either way if you had paid any attention to the detail as stated in your link you wouldn’t have tried to pass it of as current data.

Where have I said that you said you hadn’t read them? Twisting and putting words into my mouth again.

The article was talking about the U.K. Have you not read it? Like I said. Your complaint (if you really feel the need to have one) should be about what I didn’t say not about what I said.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,789
martcov said:
Depends who you believe. 3000 Tommy 15000 Opposition. But, Dart will come out with a different total.
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Just watched a couple of videos on you tube. One was the official Tommy Robinson one which only shows the front of the March. The second was someone filming the march in its entirety as it passed down a street. Took just over ten minutes. They didn’t even have to close the road. Traffic was moving still in one direction. 15000 is still awful given they’re still supposed to be the majority. I know a lad who went down in his ninth in a row brand new Merc that he picked up last week. Doing his bit for Britain as he put it. The irony lost on him.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,790
skybluetony176 said:
Just watched a couple of videos on you tube. One was the official Tommy Robinson one which only shows the front of the March. The second was someone filming the march in its entirety as it passed down a street. Took just over ten minutes. They didn’t even have to close the road. Traffic was moving still in one direction. 15000 is still awful given they’re still supposed to be the majority. I know a lad who went down in his ninth in a row brand new Merc that he picked up last week. Doing his bit for Britain as he put it. The irony lost on him.
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What are you comparing this march to for it to be awful?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,791
Astute said:
You know I have. But of course Tony would say differently as he always does. Something else you both have in common.
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How come you didn’t notice one was from two years ago when presenting it as current data?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,792
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
What are you comparing this march to for it to be awful?
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Take your pick.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,793
But does it matter. Do you really care that Leicester City get 30,000 a week ? Does it make you want to change allegiance ?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,794
Astute said:
This is what happens when I try to have a debate with those I have blocked. It is nothing but a joke. They don't want a debate.

It is funny when they show a link that shows things are looking dodgy in the EU but think it looks bad for the UK. Or those who blame Italy but then say they never made that comment although it is there in black and white.
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How can you have a debate with someone you’ve blocked? Unless you’ve started talking to yourself?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 9, 2018
  • #25,795
I genuinely had no idea little Tommy was holding a Brexit march
 
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