Grendel
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Yes - fake news
Do you know what „for example“ means?
EU budget breakdown: What you need to know | DW | 03.05.2018
The new funding budget including 14.4 billions less a year from the UK.
And they plan to get rid of any wayward EU members.......
Yes - fake news
No because some only see negatives in Brexit and refuse to accept or sneer at anyone suggesting positives exist. Bit like yourself..?Does that not apply to everyone?
No because some only see negatives in Brexit and refuse to accept or sneer at anyone suggesting positives exist. Bit like yourself..?
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What is good?Good.
Because 99% of what is spoken about is how shit it will be for the UK after leaving. And said by those who don't have a clue about any deal that might be done. The rest of the arguing is countering the bullshit as mentioned.Again, the opposite POV can be said for others on this thread, I wonder why you don't call them out though?
No bollocks. It means they are reducing common agricultural payments and cohesive policy payments ( modestly). Which is confirmed by Astute‘s posted link.
More like reducing payments to rich landowners. It would be a travesty if the rich landowners kept their money and the farmers suffered.No bollocks. It means they are reducing common agricultural payments and cohesive policy payments ( modestly). Which is confirmed by Astute‘s posted link.
Because 99% of what is spoken about is how shit it will be for the UK after leaving. And said by those who don't have a clue about any deal that might be done. The rest of the arguing is countering the bullshit as mentioned.
More like reducing payments to rich landowners. It would be a travesty if the rich landowners kept their money and the farmers suffered.
But nobody would be surprised if it was the rich landowners kept their money though.
More like 99% of what is said is about how good the EU is and how thick/racist the leave voters are and the replies to this bullshit.So 99% of posts on here are anti-Brexit? You're off your head.
The rich landowners would lose more. That shows how bad it is.How do you think British farmers would get on in the event of a no deal and a deal with the US being struck?
Because 99% of what is spoken about is how shit it will be for the UK after leaving. And said by those who don't have a clue about any deal that might be done. The rest of the arguing is countering the bullshit as mentioned.
THing is you say that is if it's just a few of us on here are saying, "it will be shit". It's not just a handful of blokes on a football forum. The Government's own analysis shows that Britain, me, you and everyone else is going to be a lot poorer after Brexit, especially if there's a "no deal".
" The industries that suffer most include chemicals, food and drink, cars and retailing. The areas of the country hit hardest include the north-east, the north-west and the West Midlands, all of which voted heavily for Brexit. London escapes relatively lightly. The public finances suffer too. The FTA option will add £55bn ($75bn) to annual public borrowing in 15 years’ time."
So, the Government's own impact assessments predict the economy will tank, along with jobs, manufacturing, scientific research. And the non-Government assessments are even more scathing.
Not having a go at anyone on here, but just sayin', chances are things will be shit.
The stock markets and pension funds are advising that there is never a better time to purchase uk stocks as they are already at a level that assumes the worst possible scenario from Brexit - to suggest we will overnight resemble a third world economy because we no longer bung £19 billion a year into 27 other countries is somewhat absurd.
More like 99% of what is said is about how good the EU is and how thick/racist the leave voters are and the replies to this bullshit.
So how would you say it is?
I don’t usually see much said about how good the EU is. Just people asking how good is Brexit going to be and what benefits will there be that we don’t have now. People list the faults of the EU, but no one knows how to get out without hurting ourselves.
A government run by remainers that constantly has remainers having a go at them. They are trying to make a deal with the EU who don't want to make a deal. So both sides don't want to make a leave deal.You're wasted on here obviously. Go and advise the Government. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
I didn't say how good the EU is. Because it isn't. I said the benefits of being in.I don’t usually see much said about how good the EU is. Just people asking how good is Brexit going to be and what benefits will there be that we don’t have now. People list the faults of the EU, but no one knows how to get out without hurting ourselves.
You're wasted on here obviously. Go and advise the Government. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
Yes if there is no deal it COULD get a bit tough for a bit. But it won't make us destitute.
Being able to make our own laws and not having them made for us by the EU.I've yet to hear any good reason for Brexit. My Dad voted to leave and when I asked him why he said it was because he wanted things to be like they were when he was a kid in the 40s and 50s. Sad, but true.
The same government that said they’d be an emergency budget the day after the result if it was to leave
Nice to see you now worship at the Tory church though and believe every word they say.
Didn’t you used to say Tories were liars and wankers? Now they are trying to protect the working classes and saying that the Labour Party leader is talking shite.
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What proof do you have on that it WILL?Well, that's the thing isn't it? Rees-Mogg, Johnson et al certainly won't be destitute, will they? Maybe you're one of the "us" you're talking about there, but there are millions it will affect quite badly. How long will people have to put up with the mess. We used to get the "it will be a land of milk and honey" spiel from politicians but now even Rees-Mogg has said we might not feel the benefits of Brexit for 50 years. That certainly will be "a bit tough".
At least we agree on something 100%Ha, I will never worship at the Tory church. Sadly nor the Labour one until Corbyn has gone. I am, as they say, politically homeless. Tories are liars and wankers. All of them. Most of Labours front bench too.
Ha, I will never worship at the Tory church. Sadly nor the Labour one until Corbyn has gone. I am, as they say, politically homeless. Tories are liars and wankers. All of them. Most of Labours front bench too.
Being able to make our own laws and not having them made for us by the EU.
Not being ordered what to do by a crooked organisation.
Being able to bring in the right skills mix and not just by what passport is held.
Being able to make our own trade deals around the world instead of 28 countries trying to decide on a deal each time.
Not having to pump many billions a year into an organisation we hardly have any say on.
How is that for starters?
Becaise at various points I think all of them have expressed concerns about Brexit & some positive(s) about the EU.Again, the opposite POV can be said for others on this thread, I wonder why you don't call them out though?
But you take over every discussion on here with your POV and don't like it when anything else is spoken about.
Becaise at various points I think all of them have expressed concerns about Brexit & some positive(s) about the EU.
Polarisation has happened because of polarised views & sweeping generalisations of some, yet unrelenting defence of any criticism of the EU.
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The rich landowners would lose more. That shows how bad it is.
Do you know how much it would affect the farmers? The money is given for food not to be grown mainly. It is to keep food prices high. It helps the French farmers the most. It has been proven that food prices will drop when we leave. But that doesn't go with what you want everyone to believe.
The USA? I thought we would starve and the army would take over once we leave.
More like 99% of what is said is about how good the EU is and how thick/racist the leave voters are and the replies to this bullshit.
So how would you say it is?
There you go again Mart. What MIGHT happen is a true fact to you. Just shows how biased you are. And proves my point that comments made by people like you (mainly you) is what this thread is all about. Trying to show that most of what you say isn't true or only might happen.
So EU laws are only to do with trade? Wrong. They even cover what light bulbs can be used or that vacuum cleaners must be of a lower power. But how about those which are to do with trade loosely? And those that are to do with trading cost us billions and restricts trading.
The EU has destroyed some of our most prosperous industries - and will continue to do so
Motorways WILL become a car park? Could and might are the words being used. But to you it becomes a certainty.
And here you go again on making bending of EU rules seem trivial. You say that Juncker should be looked into. But you know he won't. Because he would be the one in charge of looking at what he has done. How about Selmayr? Everyone knows it was also wrong. Juncker helped get him his position. You are one of the rare people who defends it. The EU is in uproar over the matter. But yet again it is down to Juncker to look into it. He refused saying he would prefer to resign. So that can't happen either. But nothing would happen even if they did as it is a job for life. He can't be removed from the job.
Immigration? As usual you make up your own facts. You make out that people say things they haven't. And you twist words and the truth to make out that all is OK. I said that we need to be able to bring in the right skills mix. You say the building trade would suffer. Is that because the builders are really brain surgeons and would leave the building trade? Of course not. So as usual I can't work out any relevance to the point you pretend to make. The right skills mix is just that. Skilled Labour. Not removing it from one place to cover another.
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