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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (9 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,681
Astute said:
So which part of what I have said is wrong?
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What are you on about? I was agreeing with both you and Grendull. The DUP has no influence and if you pull Arlene Fosters face it reveals its a mask and she’s really Junker. It’s obvious isn’t it.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,682
Astute said:
At least you would be asking the right person. He controls it after ripping off EU governments for years for billions of pounds in non paid tax. Then he stopped them from investigating.
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No he doesn’t. He is the head of the civil service. He may be a crook. He may know how to wriggle out of things playing the system. But he is not in control of the whole EU or of the negotiating team. And slagging him off doesn’t get us any further.

Back to our weak and wobbly government. Where’s our solution and what do we want? I keep asking you and all you say is „ Juncker’s a crook“. A bet you failed your O levels.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,683
Astute said:
The only influence is Juncker. They all follow his tune. But he does help Merkel because without Germany the EU would be finished immediately.
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Bollocks! Germany is in trouble again. This time about nitrates in rivers. No problem, phone Juncker and they’re out in one.

Now, what about our solution to the Irish Problem?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,684

Astute and the way he goes on about Junker reminds me of this.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,685
skybluetony176 said:
Did Theresa May fly into Brussels under the fanfare of an announcement only to cancel said announcement when the DUP pulled the plug? It’s a yes or no answer.

Clue 1. It’s yes

Clue 2. It’s not no
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It’s a no Tony. Again you read a headline and despite attempts at one upmanship you find yourself wanting

The issue was the meeting Baker had with other certain other people who strangled the government
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,686
Astute said:
Did we go for a summit last weekend for it to be cancelled at the last minute and be changed to locking up innocent men, women and children?
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No. We are not a priority. The EU just wants us to say how we’re solving the Irish border and how we are going to trade if we are not in the CU and SM. The refugee problem is far more complicated and the right wing parties are trying to get the refugees locked up until their claims are processed. Better speak to your right wing mates about that.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,687
Grendel said:
It’s a no Tony. Again you read a headline and despite attempts at one upmanship you find yourself wanting

The issue was the meeting Baker had with other certain other people who strangled the government
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Steve Baker? Do me a favour. Interesting you should mention him though Brexit minister linked to group that used loophole to channel £435,000 to DUP

Who was it you think he had a meeting with? Was it the DUP by any chance?
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,688
skybluetony176 said:
Steve Baker? Do me a favour. Interesting you should mention him though Brexit minister linked to group that used loophole to channel £435,000 to DUP

Who was it you think he had a meeting with? Was it the DUP by any chance?
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No Tony it wasn’t and it’s also why I used the thatcher analogy which you so failed to comprehend.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,689
Grendel said:
No Tony it wasn’t and it’s also why I used the thatcher analogy which you so failed to comprehend.
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Throwing enough shit hoping something sticks. So who do you think he was meeting of influence then that scuppered the Brussels announcement?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,690
Even the Daily Mail acknowledges that it was the DUP who scuppered the announcement https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...mp/May-races-win-DUP-Brexit-divorce-deal.html

Grendull knows better though. Can’t wait to hear his exclusive.
 

dutchman

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,691
martcov said:
No. We are not a priority. The EU just wants us to say how we’re solving the Irish border and how we are going to trade if we are not in the CU and SM. The refugee problem is far more complicated and the right wing parties are trying to get the refugees locked up until their claims are processed. Better speak to your right wing mates about that.
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A Dutch lawyer is currently in jail awaiting trial accused of advising hundred of economic migrants to fabricate stories of persecution in their home country in order to claim political asylum in Holland. I very much doubt he is an isolated example either. There are probably dozens like him all over Europe.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,692
skybluetony176 said:
Given that it will be the third “workable” solution that the government has produced how can it be anything other than scatterguning? The government can’t get a consensus on how it should be done, they have then got to get the EU to agree what the government have agreed is the workable solution. Rees-Mogg is already on it, Boris seems to wait for Rees-Mogg to share an opinion before sharing his own and then you have Gove who apparently just rips them up in a tantrum. We’ll see what Friday brings when they thrash it out at chequers but I wouldn’t be surprised if they couldn’t agree on this one too.
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I'm sure you'd be elated...and sure SickBoy & Mart will join your celebration

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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,693
Meanwhile in Denmark all is not well.
In Denmark, Harsh New Laws for Immigrant ‘Ghettos’
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,694
Astute said:
None of this takes anything away from locking up innocent people. Once invisible anything could happen. Just like it is happening in Italy at present.
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No Astute...get it right!

Britain locks them up, the EU places them into processing centres or some such bollocks

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,695
SkyblueBazza said:
I'm sure you'd be elated...and sure SickBoy & Mart will join your celebration

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Elated by what?
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,696
skybluetony176 said:
Elated by what?
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If your dreams are fulfilled on Brexit & failing to reach agreement on issues

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,697
skybluetony176 said:
Even the Daily Mail acknowledges that it was the DUP who scuppered the announcement https://www.google.com/amp/www.dail...mp/May-races-win-DUP-Brexit-divorce-deal.html

Grendull knows better though. Can’t wait to hear his exclusive.
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You read the Daily Mail? Enough said

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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,698
SkyblueBazza said:
If your dreams are fulfilled on Brexit & failing to reach agreement on issues

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It’s alright. Astute has the solution. We’ll just let the EU and specifically Junker decide the terms of Brexit. It’s all on him, nothing to do with us.

Just to add. That isn’t my dream. In fact the only people promoting no deal as a good idea are Brexiteers.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,699
martcov said:
No. We are not a priority. The EU just wants us to say how we’re solving the Irish border and how we are going to trade if we are not in the CU and SM. The refugee problem is far more complicated and the right wing parties are trying to get the refugees locked up until their claims are processed. Better speak to your right wing mates about that.
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The EU are the ones planning on locking them up...in North Africa before they enter the water!

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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,700
SkyblueBazza said:
You read the Daily Mail? Enough said

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I don’t. But I know if I linked the BBC reporting that it was the DUP that scuppered Mays big Brussels announcement in December I’d get called a leftie as if somehow that means I’m incorrect, so I went with the Mail saying it instead. Seems you can’t win. All news outlets covered it and all said the same thing. They all got it wrong though apparently and we’re just waiting on Grendulls exclusive correcting them so we know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the Grendull truth. Bullshit in other words.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,701
Astute said:
So it wouldn't help knowing what sort of trade agreement they would be happy with? They know we would be happy with tariff free. And EU countries would be better off with tariff free.
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Of course it would help, they'd be telling us their negotiating position! But its not down to them. We decided to leave, we were told we were taking back control and everyone would be desperate to deal with us as they need us more than we need them. Now the reality is proving to be different people are blaming the EU, its ridiculous, we chose to leave, we should be leading the process.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,702
skybluetony176 said:
Even the Daily Mail acknowledges that it was the DUP who scuppered the announcement May races to win over DUP to Brexit divorce deal | Daily Mail Online

Grendull knows better though. Can’t wait to hear his exclusive.
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Oh there’s an article in the guardian that tells the whole picture and of course an interview in a certain economic publication with Arlene Phillips on a non Brexit issue that actually exposes the folly
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,703
skybluetony176 said:
I don’t. But I know if I linked the BBC reporting that it was the DUP that scuppered Mays big Brussels announcement in December I’d get called a leftie as if somehow that means I’m incorrect, so I went with the Mail saying it instead. Seems you can’t win. All news outlets covered it and all said the same thing. They all got it wrong though apparently and we’re just waiting on Grendulls exclusive correcting them so we know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the Grendull truth. Bullshit in other words.
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The BBC are clueless and always get things hopelessly wrong Tony
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,704
Grendel said:
Oh there’s an article in the guardian that tells the whole picture and of course an interview in a certain economic publication with Arlene Phillips on a non Brexit issue that actually exposes the folly
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In other words you put two and two together and came up with bullshit. Just as I thought then.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,705
Grendel said:
The BBC are clueless and always get things hopelessly wrong Tony
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Yes I’m sure you know better than the BBC and every news outlet in the world who reported the exact same thing.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,706
SkyblueBazza said:
You read the Daily Mail? Enough said

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Tony doesn’t read or research
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,707
dutchman said:
A Dutch lawyer is currently in jail awaiting trial accused of advising hundred of economic migrants to fabricate stories of persecution in their home country in order to claim political asylum in Holland. I very much doubt he is an isolated example either. There are probably dozens like him all over Europe.
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Speculation. Probably, but possibly not.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,708
skybluetony176 said:
In other words you put two and two together and came up with bullshit. Just as I thought then.
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No Tony but in the end I’m tired of holding your hand - I’ve had to on this very thread educate you in how to find certain links - in the end it’s tiresome
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,709
SkyblueBazza said:
The EU are the ones planning on locking them up...in North Africa before they enter the water!

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That has not been ratified and the countries mentioned are against it.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,710
skybluetony176 said:
Yes I’m sure you know better than the BBC and every news outlet in the world who reported the exact same thing.
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Oh Tony no no no YOU know better.

Geoffrey Howe resigned over the poll tax. The thick fuckers at the beeb thought it was about Europe

Geoffrey Howe: Resignation extracts
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,711
skybluetony176 said:
I don’t. But I know if I linked the BBC reporting that it was the DUP that scuppered Mays big Brussels announcement in December I’d get called a leftie as if somehow that means I’m incorrect, so I went with the Mail saying it instead. Seems you can’t win. All news outlets covered it and all said the same thing. They all got it wrong though apparently and we’re just waiting on Grendulls exclusive correcting them so we know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the Grendull truth. Bullshit in other words.
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So you had some random person approach you to tell you about this report??? How odd

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,712
martcov said:
That has not been ratified and the countries mentioned are against it.
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Negotiation/bullying/back-handers will win the day I am sure

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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,713
Grendel said:
Oh Tony no no no YOU know better.

Geoffrey Howe resigned over the poll tax. The thick fuckers at the beeb thought it was about Europe

Geoffrey Howe: Resignation extracts
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And this proves your “theory” on it being something/someone other than the DUP scuppering Theresa Mays big Brussels announcement how?

It doesn’t. You just need a distraction.
 
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martcov

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,714
SkyblueBazza said:
I'm sure you'd be elated...and sure SickBoy & Mart will join your celebration

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Elated? Why? Because the government is an embarrassment? Because we’re up shit street without a paddle? The word is not elated, it is angry. Angry that scum like Farage, like Arran Banks, like BoJo, like Mogg have led people like you up the garden path. I want them outed for what they have done.

When Astute’s answer is to deflect to Juncker and Grendel to Tusk. Then Astute posts a „Brexit Briefing“ ( haha ) where some Brexit commissar tries to explain how 52:48 is a large margin ( I stopped reading at that point) and Farage starts the Endsieg ( final victory ) Modus in that he admits that the U.K. will take a hit and maybe 10% will lose out, but the 90% will benefit and in the end .. years to come...we will all be better off....

Then you know that things are not going according to plan... the whole thing is unnecessary and I have had to get German citizenship to keep my rights... 17,4 million people have voted to give rights up. Yes I am angry.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2018
  • #15,715
SkyblueBazza said:
So you had some random person approach you to tell you about this report??? How odd

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No. As I said it was reported in ALL news outlets left, right, neutral and others. All the exact same story time lining the exact events as they happened. I then went on something called google (I’m assuming you’ve heard of google) when I needed a link to the story and amongst it all was The Mail, I could have picked any but as I’ve already told you I picked the Mail so I could avoid being labelled a leftie and therefore clearly wrong as all lefties obviously are.
 
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