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The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (10 Viewers)

  • Thread starter jimmyhillsfanclub
  • Start date Jun 8, 2016
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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
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Grendel

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,156
martcov said:
There are over 700 MEPs. How much did Juncker bribe them?
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The European council of 28 vote as you well know which is the same parody as FIFA so stop bullshitting. In the end 28 people decide on a president for the whole of Europe which is an identical approach to fifa. Restrict the decision to the few and influence the few
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,157
martcov said:
Ashcroft is a major leaver spouting out the now outdated Brexit paroles on his Twitter account. Back in the Brexit debate today with his tax avoidance tip to British companies to move an office to low tax no questions asked Malta and therefore keep a presence in the EU whilst avoiding UK tax. A loss for the British tax collector.

The constant flow of information about the leave side of the referendum certainly has more to do with Brexit than Tusk.
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Can you prinude evidence on that last comment please
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,158
Astute said:
So who was Juncker elected by? Yes those others with their snouts in the trough. Those with pensions that cost billions. The same pensions that they get in not many years that the working man could never get in a lifetime.

Yet he rules all of our lives. The master of tax dodges. What a fucking scam.
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Eas he elected by the people we elected? Who else should elect the head of the civil service? No one as in the UK?
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,159
Grendel said:
Can you prinude evidence on that last comment please
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About Tusk? Or Ashcroft‘s tax tips?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,160
Grendel said:
The European council of 28 vote as you well know which is the same parody as FIFA so stop bullshitting. In the end 28 people decide on a president for the whole of Europe which is an identical approach to fifa. Restrict the decision to the few and influence the few
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It has to be approved by the parliament of 700 MEPs. Does that happen with FIFA?
 
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martcov

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,161
Astute said:
Nothing to do with our Brexit vote.

How about a few days before the Brexit vote when he said to the world that there wasn't a meeting with Cameron about seeing if there was a way of slowing down the massive influx of people to the UK and that there would never be a meeting about it?

He made sure that it went from a comfortable remain vote to nearly 2m more people voting to leave than stay.

But yes as usual just twist it your way.
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The meeting with Cameron was about benefits tourism not the 4 freedoms which are not negotiable.

Which Cameron knew. We could have been stricter on EU immigration within EU „3 month“ rules and still adhere to the 4 freedoms. Other EU countries do.

Nothing to twist on my side.

Plenty of Daily Express and Mail twisting though.
 
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AVWskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,162
martcov said:
3 Billion extra Maximum . This year’s German budget 343 billion. Means less than1 %.

Anyway Britain will still be paying in during the transition period and maybe afterwards. Not a priority.
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So in this post you protectively point out that Germany will only pay an extra 3mill, then immediately search that Britain will be paying in for years. It appears you have completely lost your patriotic support for your mother country and transferred it to a power hungry Germany

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AVWskyblue

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,163
AVWskyblue said:
So in this post you protectively point out that Germany will only pay an extra 3mill, then immediately sneer that Britain will be paying in for years. It appears you have completely lost your patriotic support for your mother country and transferred it to a power hungry Germany

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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,164
AVWskyblue said:
So in this post you protectively point out that Germany will only pay an extra 3mill, then immediately search that Britain will be paying in for years. It appears you have completely lost your patriotic support for your mother country and transferred it to a power hungry Germany

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No, absolutely not. The opposite. The voters in the UK were led up the garden path and now it is becoming increasingly obvious that it wasn’t about economics because we look like losing manufacturing jobs, it wasn’t about controlling our borders because we are miles from that and it wasn’t about controlling our currency because that is going up and down according to the state of negotiations. It was about immigration as far as the masses were concerned, but the people behind leave had various agendas. Helping the working man was not one of them.

I am more pro British people than ever. I also hope that damage done by Brexit to the livelihoods of friends here and myself here is kept to a minimum.

I want leave exposed for what it is and people like Farage, Banks, Ashcroft and the whole lot of their supporters, including the buffoon BoJo held responsible for what they have done.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,165
martcov said:
You don’t get it do you? Ashcroft is British and is ripping us off and taking people like you who pay UK tax for a ride. But you let him off and go on about a foreign county. No, I don’t like Juncker‘s history, but we are talking about the British scum who don’t pay the full tax on their millions and led people up the garden path in order to keep the pesky EU away from their hidden money. Fara


Who is talking about Polish workers?

We are on a Brexit thread.
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No. You get it. Bit you don't want to admit it. Juncker runs the EU. He has done lots of EU countries out of billions of tax. Yet you and many others want to ignore his past while attacking those who use what he set up.

The police go for criminals at the top of the tree. But in this case it shows that whatever the case you can run the EU and it gives you immunity. So let's go for the small fry especially if they don't want to be a part of the crooked EU.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,166
martcov said:
Eas he elected by the people we elected? Who else should elect the head of the civil service? No one as in the UK?
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They all have their snouts in the trough. But we only have the choice of electing another pig who is only interested in the trough and not fighting against the bullshit that the EU is.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,167
martcov said:
About Tusk? Or Ashcroft‘s tax tips?
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Or Junckers untold billions of tax evasion that totally eclipse anything that anyone at all from the UK has done.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,168
martcov said:
I want leave exposed for what it is and people like Farage, Banks, Ashcroft and the whole lot of their supporters, including the buffoon BoJo held responsible for what they have done.
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And when people like yourself do anything to defend the EU and attack everyone who has anything half decent to say about us leaving the EU it makes me want to point out the bullshit.

I wanted to stay in the EU. I would still prefer to stay in.

But how is it that when Cameron asks for something to be done it is an immediate no. But when Merkel asks she gets?
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,169
martcov said:
It has to be approved by the parliament of 700 MEPs. Does that happen with FIFA?
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Those in the EU have their snouts in the trough. Those in FIFA have their snouts in the trough. Only the EU trough is bigger. And FIFA has to answer to the law and they get prosecuted. The EU make the laws up as they go along so they don't get prosecuted.
 
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Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,170
martcov said:
The meeting with Cameron was about benefits tourism not the 4 freedoms which are not negotiable.

Which Cameron knew. We could have been stricter on EU immigration within EU „3 month“ rules and still adhere to the 4 freedoms. Other EU countries do.

Nothing to twist on my side.

Plenty of Daily Express and Mail twisting though.
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Yet what Cameron wanted was not negotiable either. As confirmed by Juncker.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,171
Astute said:
No. You get it. Bit you don't want to admit it. Juncker runs the EU. He has done lots of EU countries out of billions of tax. Yet you and many others want to ignore his past while attacking those who use what he set up.

The police go for criminals at the top of the tree. But in this case it shows that whatever the case you can run the EU and it gives you immunity. So let's go for the small fry especially if they don't want to be a part of the crooked EU.
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What are you on?
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,172
Astute said:
They all have their snouts in the trough. But we only have the choice of electing another pig who is only interested in the trough and not fighting against the bullshit that the EU is.
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? The bullshit is coming from the pigs who are taking the piß out of you.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,173
Astute said:
Yet what Cameron wanted was not negotiable either. As confirmed by Juncker.
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Benefits tourism was a major point from Germany. They wanted to end it and have now in effect.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,174
Astute said:
Those in the EU have their snouts in the trough. Those in FIFA have their snouts in the trough. Only the EU trough is bigger. And FIFA has to answer to the law and they get prosecuted. The EU make the laws up as they go along so they don't get prosecuted.
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Crap.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,175
Astute said:
And when people like yourself do anything to defend the EU and attack everyone who has anything half decent to say about us leaving the EU it makes me want to point out the bullshit.

I wanted to stay in the EU. I would still prefer to stay in.

But how is it that when Cameron asks for something to be done it is an immediate no. But when Merkel asks she gets?
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I am attacking the liars and tax dodgers and self interested scum who are behind leave. Not everyone who says anything against the EU.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,176
martcov said:
? The bullshit is coming from the pigs who are taking the piß out of you.
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Finally we agree. The EU pigs have been taking the piss for too long now.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,177
martcov said:
Benefits tourism was a major point from Germany. They wanted to end it and have now in effect.
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But Juncker listens and changes things for Germany but always refused to listen to our concerns.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,178
martcov said:
Crap.
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So what isn't true then?

Of course it is all true. Some from the EU wanted to look into what Juncker had done. He offers to stand down in another 4 years. He let's them know how devastating it would be for them if the big name in the EU was prosecuted or even had to stand down so the investigation could take place. So it didn't happen.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,179
martcov said:
I am attacking the liars and tax dodgers and self interested scum who are behind leave. Not everyone who says anything against the EU.
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Yet you always defend the liars and tax dodgers and self interested scum who run the institution called the EU. Without these we wouldn't be leaving.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,180
Astute said:
Finally we agree. The EU pigs have been taking the piss for too long now.
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Er no... that is the likes of Farage, Ashcroft BoJo, Banks etc etc
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,181
Astute said:
Yet you always defend the liars and tax dodgers and self interested scum who run the institution called the EU. Without these we wouldn't be leaving.
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No. You’re leaving because of immigration and false promises... enjoy.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,182
Astute said:
So what isn't true then?

Of course it is all true. Some from the EU wanted to look into what Juncker had done. He offers to stand down in another 4 years. He let's them know how devastating it would be for them if the big name in the EU was prosecuted or even had to stand down so the investigation could take place. So it didn't happen.
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If he has done something wrong he should be prosecuted. As should be the leave criminals..
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,183
Astute said:
But Juncker listens and changes things for Germany but always refused to listen to our concerns.
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What has he changed for Germany ? He cannot change the 4 freedoms. Even if he wanted to.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,184
martcov said:
Er no... that is the likes of Farage, Ashcroft BoJo, Banks etc etc
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Farage yes. He had his snout in the EU trough. And refuses to give up his EU pension after we leave.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,185
martcov said:
No. You’re leaving because of immigration and false promises... enjoy.
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Here you go again. I wanted to stay but understand why people voted leave. I'm leaving because the majority voted leave. I have no choice.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,186
martcov said:
If he has done something wrong he should be prosecuted. As should be the leave criminals..
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So why do you defend him or not want to talk about what he has done then?
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,187
Astute said:
Farage yes. He had his snout in the EU trough. And refuses to give up his EU pension after we leave.
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Banks? Meetings with Trump and several with the Russians? ( useful idiot ?) Ashcroft pure lies.
 
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martcov

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,188
Astute said:
So why do you defend him or not want to talk about what he has done then?
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I don’t. And I don‘t want to talk about home if he is being used as a deflection.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,189
martcov said:
What has he changed for Germany ? He cannot change the 4 freedoms. Even if he wanted to.
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Holding areas for immigrants stuck in Spain, Italy and Greece?

The EU can't keep them 3 countries happy not letting new arrivals leave. Germany refuses to agree to them being able to leave. So the EU sets up holding areas once they can bribe countries to have them.
 

Astute

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  • Jun 29, 2018
  • #15,190
martcov said:
Banks? Meetings with Trump and several with the Russians? ( useful idiot ?) Ashcroft pure lies.
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And back to Juncker and his tax dodges that have cost us billions.
 
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