Happy?
It's a trade war was which the EU can't win and the US can't lose.
If it results in the total destruction of the EU? Yes!Happy?
If it results in the total destruction of the EU? Yes!
Le Pen's PR man quit - he claims - over her "softening of tone" on some issues and took a few of his colleagues with him. There's been no change in core policies and the real reasons he left are somewhat unclear. His party - if you can it that - is more vocal on EU issues than Le Pen is at present.Hasn’t Front National had a split over the EU with Le Pens second in command leaving and starting his own party because of Le Pens change of direction on the EU? Sure I read that somewhere not that long ago.
The maniacs at the time of WW2 were on a majorly different level imoTwo maniacs? The place is crawling with them today. Two lunatics on the world stage would be an improvement.
And remainers didnt make any predictions that never happened did they?Disaster = Chaos = disaster. You can argue as to how big the disaster will be.
Leavers have predicted will get great trade deals. They can obviously see better into the future than I can. Take them up on that.
Then what? Smiling over a heap of shattered businesses, unemployed people, a financial crash... collapse of the Euro into over 20 smaller, mostly weak currencies, queues at borders, tariffs and protectionist regulations.... Trump and Putin laughing their socks off as they, or rather their firms, buy up crashed businesses ... Europe on it’s knees? Tallinn falls to Russian Navy... Helsinki under threat as Russia closes the route to St Petersburg... the desire of the Russian military.. Yes, but Juncker has to retire...
That showed ‚em!
Le Pen's PR man quit - he claims - over her "softening of tone" on some issues and took a few of his colleagues with him. There's been no change in core policies and the real reasons he left are somewhat unclear. His party - if you can it that - is more vocal on EU issues than Le Pen is at present.
PöpThen what? Smiling over a heap of shattered businesses, unemployed people, a financial crash... collapse of the Euro into over 20 smaller, mostly weak currencies, queues at borders, tariffs and protectionist regulations.... Trump and Putin laughing their socks off as they, or rather their firms, buy up crashed businesses ... Europe on it’s knees? Tallinn falls to Russian Navy... Helsinki under threat as Russia closes the route to St Petersburg... the desire of the Russian military.. Yes, but Juncker has to retire...
That showed ‚em!
The Dutch Guilder was the strongest of all EU member currencies and will be again. It'll be terrible in Germany I'll grant you but what happens outside of Holland is none of my concern.
And?Thought he was her Vice President and an elected MEP for Front National?
And?
He was still her PR man and the one who largely shaped the image of the party.
I doubt very much he'll remain an MEP for long as he no longer represents a significant party.
Little Holland will strike deals all over the world... and the Guilder will be a Rock Hard currency.. Pie in the sky... didn’t you have natural gas at the time? What are you going to export now? Tomatoes?
If I was you I'd be more worried about what Germans are going to export after their biggest export markets are closed to them.
And here is the point that a few of us have been making.Yes. Just what you wish for. Chaos followed by endless disputes and nationalism resulting in a disaster for Europe which has been prevented since WWII. Still, I stand by commonsense and the more intelligent people who I think will find a solution. No right minded person should wish the EU to collapse.
It won’t.
Yet our only chance of survival as we know it is to remain in the EU?Then what? Smiling over a heap of shattered businesses, unemployed people, a financial crash... collapse of the Euro into over 20 smaller, mostly weak currencies, queues at borders, tariffs and protectionist regulations.... Trump and Putin laughing their socks off as they, or rather their firms, buy up crashed businesses ... Europe on it’s knees? Tallinn falls to Russian Navy... Helsinki under threat as Russia closes the route to St Petersburg... the desire of the Russian military.. Yes, but Juncker has to retire...
That showed ‚em!
And here is the point that a few of us have been making.
Nobody really wants the EU to fail. But they want it run differently. But what chance is there if those running the show are not interested in changes they don't want? Those like Juncker have a vision. That is all they are interested in.
The cohesion has been slipping for ages. But the EU way of dealing with it has been to ignore the problems. Just keep up with the vision of what the EU should be like.
You constantly say that the AfD is nothing. But they are 1 in 8 voters in the country that is doing the best in the EU. Their leader has been weakened when she used to be very strong. Other countries in the EU have had enough. Then you have Italy and Greece that have not had enough help at all. But the other countries that could help know it will cause problems with their own citizens if they do help.
You have a go at anyone who mentions the problems with open borders in the UK. But it is the open borders throughout the EU that is causing the problems. They want to strand people in Italy, Greece and Spain so they can't travel to the more wealthy countries like Germany.
Try taking a step back and consider what people are saying. They are not being racist. They are saying about their concerns. And open borders come down the list. But they seem to be your top priority. Will they still be your top priority if another million or so reach Germany and the AfD gets even stronger?
You are so funny.I have said from the outset that we must strengthen the exterior border of the EU and we must have a consensus as to what happens to migrants- genuine refugees and economic. Merkel has been trying to share the load. I million in 2015 represents 1 in 500 of the EU population. It would be far less of a problem if the burden was shared. Italy and Greece are with Merkel on this.
As for Juncker, he was elected to carry out an agenda which was given to him by the EU council. He is doing a good job as far as they are concerned. We and Hungary voted against Juncker. 26 voted for Juncker.
The EU is well aware that it must reform to keep up with events. That has a higher priority than Brexit. They’re in negotiations at the moment. Britain shouldn’t be worried about the speed of progress as they won’t be around much longer.
It would be a great help though, if the government could lay out it’s plans before October to be debated and agreed before Brexit day. Seeing as summer holidays come inbetween, we don’t have much time.
Still, Belize based tax dodger extraordinaire, Lord Ashcroft has a solution for firms who need an EU base. Malta. Low tax Gangster and money launderer paradise. Shows why he wants leave. Deregulation of workers rights, environmental laws and tax havens for people like him. But keep a foot in the EU via Malta to be on the safe side.
Yet our only chance of survival as we know it is to remain in the EU?
Who? Juncker, who cost several countries in the EU untold billions with the tax dodges he started up while leader of Luxembourg until he managed to become one of the 5...and the most well known out of the lot of them that run the EU...then tried to ignore what had happened?He was hoping for the destruction of the EU.
You are so funny.
Problem shared? They are stranded in Greece, Italy and Spain so that they can't reach Germany. Now to solve the problem they are going to be sent to holding areas. And whoever is willing to have holding areas will get money from the EU.
Belize tax dodgers Ashcroft? Is he as bad as Juncker who facilitated billions upon billions of tax dodges? Of course not. But you defend one and attack the small fry. I wonder why that is.
Who? Juncker, who cost several countries in the EU untold billions with the tax dodges he started up while leader of Luxembourg until he managed to become one of the 5...and the most well known out of the lot of them that run the EU...then tried to ignore what had happened?
Who? Juncker, who cost several countries in the EU untold billions with the tax dodges he started up while leader of Luxembourg until he managed to become one of the 5...and the most well known out of the lot of them that run the EU...then tried to ignore what had happened?
Juncker is a choirboy in comparison to Arron Banks and Lord Ashcroft. Lord Ashcroft had to give up his cushy seat in the Lords as the law was trying to force him to pay tax in the UK under a new law that sitting Lords must may UK tax. Amazing that up until recently you could be a tax dodger,pay zero UK tax and sit in parliament. He gave up his seat, but can still use his title. Even the EU would not allow that scam. You really should look at what is happening in the leave world instead of falling for the „ look over there“ tactics of the traitors in the leave world. Brexit is not for the working class, they were just duped by scum.
I think not. How about Donald Tusk - you must be repulsed by his treatment of the working classes in Poland surely?
You say what Juncker isn't. But how about saying what he is? Full defence mode of Juncker yet again.Germany took 1 Million in 2015 and hundreds of thousands since. How many have the UK taken...? ... and you have a dig at Germany. Merkel deserves a medal.
Juncker is not a leave campaigner spouting nonsense over his Twitter account. Juncker is not lying to the leave community on a regular basis. Ashcroft is a tax dodger and is at this moment under suspicion of taxiing could zzzzzztp
Juncker is one man who you hate. Dutchman is reveling in the thought of the destruction of the EU.
Juncker is not one of the leave campaign. He has been insulted constantly and depersonalised into the bogeyman who is responsible for everything and anything wrong with the EU. A pantomime villain.
Forget him. He is not in British politics. Look at the scum behind the leave campaign who spout out the same crap every single day. Ashcroft is under tax evasion suspicion in Belize and now advising British companies to move to Malta in order to pay less tax to Britain and stay in the EU. Will the working class leave followers of him be able to relocate to Malta or Belize if things go pearshape?
You are so funny.
Problem shared? They are stranded in Greece, Italy and Spain so that they can't reach Germany. Now to solve the problem they are going to be sent to holding areas. And whoever is willing to have holding areas will get money from the EU.
Belize tax dodgers Ashcroft? Is he as bad as Juncker who facilitated billions upon billions of tax dodges? Of course not. But you defend one and attack the small fry. I wonder why that is.
Absolutely bullshit. Juncker started the massive tax dodges. Those that you mention take advantage of what he did and what he started off.Juncker is a choirboy in comparison to Arron Banks and Lord Ashcroft. Lord Ashcroft had to give up his cushy seat in the Lords as the law was trying to force him to pay tax in the UK under a new law that sitting Lords must may UK tax. Amazing that up until recently you could be a tax dodger,pay zero UK tax and sit in parliament. He gave up his seat, but can still use his title. Even the EU would not allow that scam. You really should look at what is happening in the leave world instead of falling for the „ look over there“ tactics of the traitors in the leave world. Brexit is not for the working class, they were just duped by scum.
He won't be interested. It doesn't affect Germany.I think not. How about Donald Tusk - you must be repulsed by his treatment of the working classes in Poland surely?
Oh what a guess.Not interested. Stick to Banks, Wigmore, Ashcroft and co.. these are British and they are damaging Britain and the British working class for their own scams.
You say what Juncker isn't. But how about saying what he is? Full defence mode of Juncker yet again.
We wanted changes to our borders. Juncker said not now and not in the future. And he let the world know just a few days before the Brexit vote. Merkel asked him to stop the flow to Germany. He made it though they had to stay where they landed. Germany hasn't received lots since the original 1m like you say. They have been stranded in Greece, Italy and Spain. Now they are going to be held in detention centres. Well done EU. Bowing to Germany yet again.
Answer one thing Mart. How has the population of Germany stayed steady when ours has shot up?
Oh what a guess.
So what about Juncker and the biggest tax dodge of all?It is not a guess. They are tax dodgers, charity fiddlers, meetings with Russia, advisers to companies to go to Malta. All in the name of scam scam scam.
„Brexit wasn’t about economics. Worth taking a hit for.“. who will taking the hit? Tax havens such as Belize? Putin‘s foreign policy? Multi millionaire mine owners? Or the working class in manufacturing? Or the soft fruit farmers? Or the people who lose their right to free movement? I think I can guess who. It is not exactly rocket science.
How long was it before they could come to the UK?What do you think we should do with migrants who are coming from all angles?
It hasn’t stayed steady and it has a low birthdate. Germany didn’t open the gates to Bulgaria and Romania and others immediately after they joined the EU.
Absolutely bullshit. Juncker started the massive tax dodges. Those that you mention take advantage of what he did and what he started off.
How long was it before they could come to the UK?
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