I realise that you are pro-EU and live and work in Germany and it's clear from your posts that you are getting enormous pleasure watching the turmoil here in the UK following the Leave vote.
I have to say that I can't stand whingers who knock our great country and I find your continual bleating very tiresome.
However I would also point out that your gloating is misplaced.
Do you not realise that Brexit is a much bigger threat to your beloved EU than it is to the UK? The markets confirm it and the panic within the bumbling EU leaders confirms it.
The fact is the EU needs the UK more that the UK needs the EU.
Go ahead and fantasise about the UK breaking up but I suspect you will discover that the EU crumbles around your ears long before the UK does.
Have a great day.
This is clearer... Newsbeat FFS!Interesting piece on the BBC's website regarding article 50
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36634702/article-50-the-simplest-explanation-youll-find
Your middle paragraph there ???? Why wasn't all those discussions offered to the UK before the vote !? Pathetic just like that pile of crap you just wrote ! We were persecuted from within the EU and we will be persecuted from outside now ! The difference is before it cost us £8 billion a year for the privilege !Well I would say that I am not gloating about the UK being in danger of splitting up. I am, however, gloating at the leavers waking up with a hangover and realising they have been conned. Farage is 70's National Front style and has achieved more than either the NF of Nick Griffin could ever have dreamed of. He won't have much say in the negotiations though. Who is in charge of that and what is the plan?
The EU won't crumble, but it will reform. Refugees, Migrants and benefit tourism are likely to be high on the adgenda. Actually, GB has done the EU a favour in that sense, things may now improve.
I am not whinging or knocking Britain, but I think the Referendum was not necessary and the end result was a stupid decision which the UK will regret.
Your middle paragraph there ???? Why wasn't all those discussions offered to the UK before the vote !? Pathetic just like that pile of crap you just wrote ! We were persecuted from within the EU and we will be persecuted from outside now ! The difference is before it cost us £8 billion a year for the privilege !
The worst thing possibly to come out of this whole shebang from last nights commons discussions were comments by Ken Clarke who suggested Parliament does not follow the mandate from the 'plebiscites'..................now surely that sounds danger warnings to anyone who believes in democracy, on both sides of the EU argument ??
This is clearer... Newsbeat FFS!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-leave-article-50-lisbon-treaty-a7100436.html
Your middle paragraph there ???? Why wasn't all those discussions offered to the UK before the vote !? Pathetic just like that pile of crap you just wrote ! We were persecuted from within the EU and we will be persecuted from outside now ! The difference is before it cost us £8 billion a year for the privilege !
Watching the footage of Cameron and Farage today I think we can be certain the notion of an easy ride or the rest of the EU not wanting to make an example of us is out the window.
Most interesting was the response to the SNP MEP who spoke. He got a rapturous reception when he asked the EU to stand by a Scotland that had not voted to leave. I'm certain if they have another independence referendum, which seems inevitable, they will be having it on the basis of being able to remain in Europe.
Watching the footage of Cameron and Farage today I think we can be certain the notion of an easy ride or the rest of the EU not wanting to make an example of us is out the window.
Most interesting was the response to the SNP MEP who spoke. He got a rapturous reception when he asked the EU to stand by a Scotland that had not voted to leave. I'm certain if they have another independence referendum, which seems inevitable, they will be having it on the basis of being able to remain in Europe.
As Sturgeon said, pre Brexit UK ( which they voted for in their referendum ) does not exist any more. Scotland have every right to ask for a referendum.
Juncker and Merkel have said they are not messing around. If you want to leave the family, don't expect any favours.
Let me just add my opinion in general. This is it now. The EU is gone. It's finished. Brexit is the beginning of the end. The game is over. One size doesn't fit all and it will now unravel. It simply doesn't work.
Many countries now want their refendum and it's only going to get worse and not better. Britain has just been the first to leave but I'm certain it won't be the last. It's over.
I just hope we can start again and all be friends and create a "block" keep it smaller and keep democracy and national Sovereignty. I want Europe just not an unelected Europe politicians and a massive Gravy train.
Putin must be enjoying what is going on and he has the power to speed up any potential break up.
It would only be finished if Germany said so. Maybe difficult if France went on wobble - but Germany would pull them in somehow. Which countries want a referendum? Which ones have announced it? All will be watching what we do.. The negotiating, the plan, the historic chance... In reality though, we have no Plan, no one political party with a programme, no leader ( at least the Scots have one ) and our Union will probably break up. Cannot see anyone copying that.
Isn't there calls (not as strong as there was here but they're growing) for exit referendums in Denmark, Holland, Italy and indeed France? The Danes especially I believe.
I think that as well. He hates the EU sanctions. Maybe he will do a deal with us? Great... Not
It would only be finished if Germany said so. Maybe difficult if France went on wobble - but Germany would pull them in somehow. Which countries want a referendum? Which ones have announced it? All will be watching what we do.. The negotiating, the plan, the historic chance... In reality though, we have no Plan, no one political party with a programme, no leader ( at least the Scots have one ) and our Union will probably break up. Cannot see anyone copying that.
He is the kind of chap who could help fund other referendums and it could be a cold winter in Europe if he decides to stop sending the gas etc.
Isn't there calls (not as strong as there was here but they're growing) for exit referendums in Denmark, Holland, Italy and indeed France? The Danes especially I believe.
He is the kind of chap who could help fund other referendums and it could be a cold winter in Europe if he decides to stop sending the gas etc.
Are you seriously saying Farage and Smith got the same response? Think you need to watch it again.I saw the speech. The applause was fine but only the same as farage got from the EFDD. It's both sides of the argument passionately believing in their case.
Yes tony because it doesn't work. Denmark as you say in particular because they don't have the euro and aren't in shengen just like Britain. They will be next IMO.
We haven't left yet! We haven't even invoked article 50. Our current Prime Minister has no intention of doing so and even Johnson seems to be cooling on the idea saying the referendum result was far from decisive.Britain has just been the first to leave
Are you seriously saying Farage and Smith got the same response? Think you need to watch it again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36648664
Obama has threatend us...? Please explain ( genuine question ).Putin was more of a statesman than barrack Obama tbf. Not once did Putin tell us what to do. Obama just threatened us from Downing Street. That's a sad but true story
Sorry. Won't happen, they are too linked to Germany economically. I live 50 miles from the border - we need each other.
Obama has threatend us...? Please explain ( genuine question ).
Fine but why the massive calls for a refendum then in Denmark?
Back of the queue or was it line? When it comes to a trade deal with America. He has already back tracked on that now.
Did you not see that? (Genuine question also)
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