Didn’t say blaming Brexit either did it and the latter is an issue clearly given the massive investment in advanced diesel technology.
The British car industry sells a relatively small amount of cars into Europe so it’s impact is always minimal and the profit impact of devaluation in companies like JLR have been significant in a positive way.
I’ve PM’d a few people on here regarding the impact and reasons for this - sorry I don’t trust you and Tony not to make capital out of it.
You’ve missed something out haven’t you Tony
What do companies do to mitigate exchange rate impacts Tony?
The statement doesn’t actually mention exchange rates. It’s concerns are with tariffs. Again something you would know if you actually read the statement released by JLR. Maybe it hasn’t reached the toilet cleaners yet? You could always try the link I provided if you want a heads up.What do companies do to mitigate exchange rate impacts Tony?
Is it because of brexit though? I don’t know major amounts but it seems sales have been down for a while and Diesels are being taxed to death currently when from what I know diesels aren’t even that bad on emissions.
In Germany Diesel is far cheaper than Petrol. Germany believed for years that Diesels were more environmentally friendly and reduced the tax on Diesel.
Diesels sales in Germany fell by 10% last year
I can imagine. You can’t get rid of old Diesels now. Although the blue Euro 6 ( I think ) should be ok. Mein is and I have to use AdBlue. Mine is leased so I shouldn’t lose any value even if Diesels are not moving.
I’ll get that. They buy or sell forward, which is costly and in effect, a form of insurance. That’s one argument for the EURO. It saves direct costs for businesses throughout Europe.
Er I’m talking sales of new diesel cars
Yeah a common currency was always the aim of the Third reich - never a great role model economically or socially in my view
And I'm asking you if it was worth what you call a massive gamble or build one elsewhere. After all money talks. So it shows that money will be invested here.No. I’m telling you what the Union who was involved in negotiations to save the plant and jobs said. They said “One of the most attractive natural features of the plant was its paint shop - fitted to produce van-sized vehicles - which would reduce costs”.
So is large vehicles having to have petrol engines or is it Brexit to blame for sales being down?As I said, I can imagine. Everyone is talking negatively about diesels ... except the salespersons who are praising the modern “blue” engines. Some people are not listening and fear total diesel bans in some cities or some parts of cities. If they ban diesels on the main through road here where I live, then it will be a real pain for diesel drivers. As I said, what about the fxxking ships? Local elections in May and some election posters already have “hands off our diesels” and are blaming the greens. Some people say that nitrogen oxide is present in the atmosphere anyway and that the whole thing is exaggerated. I am neutral on that, but can see here that the ships are polluting the air in this city.
So is large vehicles having to have petrol engines or is it Brexit to blame for sales being down?
bit of both, and as far as JLRs concerned the two saloons they've released are dog shit. Perfect storm.
To be fair, the automotive industry used to have one of these down turns every 3 or 4 years. We've had a really good spell but it'd crashing down to earth with a bang.
XF and XEWhich saloons?
So is large vehicles having to have petrol engines or is it Brexit to blame for sales being down?
And I'm asking you if it was worth what you call a massive gamble or build one elsewhere. After all money talks. So it shows that money will be invested here.
According to JLR both.
If nothing on here was questioned people would believe that Brexit was to blame for land rover sales being down and they only build vans in Luton because they couldn't paint them anywhere else. Nothing to do with EU rules and diesel engines. And too expensive or whatever reason they couldn't paint vans elsewhere. Spare parts? Many of them come from the EU.....What did I call a massive gamble?
That’s very nice but what did I actually say call a massive gamble?If nothing on here was questioned people would believe that Brexit was to blame for land rover sales being down and they only build vans in Luton because they couldn't paint them anywhere else. Nothing to do with EU rules and diesel engines. And too expensive or whatever reason they couldn't paint vans elsewhere. Spare parts? Many of them come from the EU.....
My sister works in the JLR supply chain. The number 1 issue is the changes to diesel tax laws. As it is for many car manufacturers.Clearly is as you’re out the loop. You don’t seem to have any knowledge of what has actually been said by JLR. Maybe you should spend less time on here and more time paying attention to what’s happening at work.
You never said massive gamble. It is what has been implied by you and others. The normal Brexit crap.That’s very nice but what did I actually say call a massive gamble?
Hamburg is supposed to start banning all Diesels in 2 streets in April. One section is 400 Meters long and involves a 900 meter diversion. Supposed to reduce pollution. It doesn’t as the diversion is in the city and means all diesels drive a longer stretch. Makes more people in Hamburg rethink buying a diesel though.
No one in the Hamburg government is proposing doing away with the Hamburg harbour though, which produces far more pollution than all cars in the city.
It is EU law that has caused it all. But it started in Germany first and the EU took it and made it law for all countries in the EU. But governments didn't push it through. Especially in Germany where the car makers are very strong. It is right that something was done in many large cities. But it is car owners that will have to pay.What’s this obsession with diesels engines? I didn’t even think they were that bad. With today’s technology and the collective pollution of planes and boats and horrendous factories everywhere cars seem a minor issue compared.
Is it just to tax them more for more money and to make us think they care?
My sister works in the JLR supply chain. The number 1 issue is the changes to diesel tax laws. As it is for many car manufacturers.
You never said massive gamble. It is what has been implied by you and others. The normal Brexit crap.
Then try reading the link I have put up.I’m sure it is but the point is it does have something to do with Brexit as confirmed by the JLR statement and not nothing to do with Brexit as someone on here who claims to be someone important at JLR claims
Jaguar Land Rover cuts 1000 contract jobs due to diesel sales slump | AutocarYou’ve read between the lines then. Can I suggest that you open the book at the right page first because I haven’t implied anything. I have quoted people who have been involved in the negotiations at Luton though and referenced the statement issued by JLR while providing a link to the full statement though. Maybe that’s confused you and you think I’ve implied what they have implied.
What’s this obsession with diesels engines? I didn’t even think they were that bad. With today’s technology and the collective pollution of planes and boats and horrendous factories everywhere cars seem a minor issue compared.
Is it just to tax them more for more money and to make us think they care?
It is EU law that has caused it all. But it started in Germany first and the EU took it and made it law for all countries in the EU. But governments didn't push it through. Especially in Germany where the car makers are very strong. It is right that something was done in many large cities. But it is car owners that will have to pay.
End of the Road: Are Diesel Cars on the Way Out in Europe?
Then try reading the link I have put up.
They rely on diesel sales. Yet there are those like yourself that seem to get delight from blaming everything wrong on Brexit. And you are not alone.
So why haven't you made a comment about the link I put up for you to read? Maybe it contradicts what you are saying. There is no bias at all in the article and it explains the situation very well. And Mart agrees with it but you made no comment about what he has said either. But if he had made an anti Brexit post you would be all over it.
And strangely enough I have said it is an EU law that makes sense yet you also ignored that comment. Because it doesn't go with what you are trying to say.
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