clint van damme
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Exactly, Cameron said if he won a 2nd term he'd have a referendum so the Scots went to the polls knowing it was a possibility but not a certainty.
Exactly, Cameron said if he won a 2nd term he'd have a referendum so the Scots went to the polls knowing it was a possibility but not a certainty.Kind of. It was actually January 2013 but the Tory government won a majority triggering it in May 2015.
David Cameron promised an in/out EU referendum in 2013.the Scottish referendum took place in September 2014, the EU referendum wasn't announced until 2015.
Exactly, Cameron said if he won a 2nd term he'd have a referendum so the Scots went to the polls knowing it was a possibility but not a certainty.
I wondered how long it would take for this. Foreigners being told "We voted for you lot to go... so get out of Britain"
http://news.sky.com/video/1717852/baroness-warsi-on-brexit-racism
LOL, they'll be thinking of a way to offer the 2 choices they're prepared to give, do you want to stay in and do you want to stay in.Fair enough and no one has said they shouldn't have a second referendum. They should of course if that's what they want.
LOL, they'll be thinking of a way to offer the 2 choices they're prepared to give, do you want to stay in and do you want to stay in.
'Global Landscape' ??The younger people I know voted for social justice, equality of peoples and a tolerant society that recognises a global landscape.
Everyone's different...
Unfortunately not.Plain wrong. I hope it's not true.
'Global Landscape' ??
'Global Landscape' ??
Yes I know how to spell it, I was just interested in exactly what you meant by it ?Global landscape, yes.
I'm sure that some thick racist twats have done this but it would be an absolute minuscule minority, this woman is an absolute moron and I have never trusted a word that came out of her mouth.I wondered how long it would take for this. Foreigners being told "We voted for you lot to go... so get out of Britain"
http://news.sky.com/video/1717852/baroness-warsi-on-brexit-racism
Yes I know how to spell it, I was just interested in exactly what you meant by it ?
Yes fine, it's happening, no problem really with it but it has to be done steadily, affordably and with all people partaking.Social, cultural... that kind of thing.
Economic?Social, cultural... that kind of thing.
I wondered how long it would take for this. Foreigners being told "We voted for you lot to go... so get out of Britain"
http://news.sky.com/video/1717852/baroness-warsi-on-brexit-racism
Economic?
Haven't seen a breakdown like that, where is it from? The only ones I've seen have been around median ageEven more interesting to discover that a poll shows that only 36% of 18-24 year olds actually bothered to vote.
But if you were the leader of the SNP, a party that has a long history of wanting independence, what would you do? Your country has voted resoundingly to stay in the EU. The EU are making noises about making an exception to the usual process should Scotland and / or NI wish to join. You could very easily justify running another referendum on that basis.But doesn't democracy mean the actual vote and the areas voting in the same vote?
It wasn't a vote for just Scotland or ni was it?
They're changing their tune now. Reports are coming out that they may be prepared to offer a fast track to Scotland and NI if they hold independence referendums as they didn't vote to leave the EU.Didn't Juncker or someone say before the Scottish referendum that an independent Scotland wouldn't necessarily be granted automatic EU membership and that they'd have to apply like any other nation?
Ha saw something similar re our vote with a new ballot paper Leave/RemainLOL, they'll be thinking of a way to offer the 2 choices they're prepared to give, do you want to stay in and do you want to stay in.
Well I hope the police will convict this tiny minority of morons and I'm sure they can easily find those who are posting hate online, I also hope they go after those posting hate and unfounded accusations of racism against people who voted leave.A little bit more information
http://news.sky.com/story/1717862/police-probe-post-brexit-attacks-on-poles
So we only got one go at the EU referendum. If we voted remain we would have stayed in whatever. But you say Scotland should be able to have a vote whenever a decision is made that they don't like? Should we have been allowed another referendum if the Scottish vote was enough to have kept us in?It would be democratic to allow the people of Scotland and NI a referendum on whether they want to leave the UK, based on this referendum changing the political landscape.
I'm sure nobody in favour of democracy would be against that, tbh.
of the conditions of the Scottish referendum was that it wouldn't be binding if there was a material change in the status of the UK, for example, leaving the EU.So we only got one go at the EU referendum. If we voted remain we would have stayed in whatever. But you say Scotland should be able to have a vote whenever a decision is made that they don't like? Should we have been allowed another referendum if the Scottish vote was enough to have kept us in?
Maybe they think that they will get a net gain of 2.5b off each country that stays in the EU. If so they will be in for a surprise. Or they think it will make it look better if only England leaves.They're changing their tune now. Reports are coming out that they may be prepared to offer a fast track to Scotland and NI if they hold independence referendums as they didn't vote to leave the EU.
There are a lot more Scottish living in England than English living in Scotland. So if it is as you say the English vote was even bigger to leave.And what if Scotland then vote leave? Do we have another referendum on the EU? Its not as simple as discounting Scottish votes as there will be many English people who reside in Scotland and voted there.
Maybe they are respecting the wishes of the people - at Last.Maybe they think that they will get a net gain of 2.5b off each country that stays in the EU. If so they will be in for a surprise. Or they think it will make it look better if only England leaves.
They're changing their tune now. Reports are coming out that they may be prepared to offer a fast track to Scotland and NI if they hold independence referendums as they didn't vote to leave the EU.
There are a lot more Scottish living in England than English living in Scotland. So if it is as you say the English vote was even bigger to leave.
Joking aside (I've been dropping some gold this eve) I had a heated discussion with my Nan earlier.
She told me she voted out, not because of immigration but to stop everyone coming here .......
It went on from there and we got on to the refugees etc. She thinks that if we (Britain) were to go to war, my wife and child should be shipped away to somewhere like Wales on train for safety while the men fight for our country. When I explained to her that the world is a very different place and that my priority would be getting my family to safety she accused me of being unpatriotic and giving up our freedom. I think she expects us to fight the terrorists in trenches or something ......
But it does show that the older generation can be so far out of touch and stuck in the 40s that they do not have a clue how modern society works. It's a shame and the young do have the right to feel screwed over I think (despite what you think about turnout).
But how would you account for that? Voting is anonymous, you couldn't somehow remove Scottish votes. You'd have to have another vote.There are a lot more Scottish living in England than English living in Scotland. So if it is as you say the English vote was even bigger to leave.
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