No. We’re the opposition and we aren’t shutting up.
But the majority did end of suck it up and shut up !!!!!
The UK is leaving the EU of it’s own volition.
No - as an employee that has worked with such big businesses & their dictatorsAre you preaching from Breitbart?
Nobody...predictive txt at work there methinks. UK most definitely IS leaving voluntarily.The UK is leaving the EU of it’s own volition. No one is forcing it to leave. If it is not leaving voluntarily, who is forcing it to leave?
Nor should you shut...but stop going over & over the same old shit that hasn't won the arguments alreadyNo. We’re the opposition and we aren’t shutting up.
But if we stay the normal vote on everything could be taken away. If you don't like it you would have to leave the EU.The UK is leaving the EU of it’s own volition. No one is forcing it to leave. If it is not leaving voluntarily, who is forcing it to leave?
We joined a customs union. It became the EU. Now they want it to become a dictatorship. Yet you call it democracy
I now want out.Spoken like a true neutral.
It's certainly a million miles different now from how those who founded it envisioned it becoming, and my grandfather (left) was one of them.Spoken like a true neutral.
I now want out.
I started out as remain but close to sitting on fence. Remain for me but leave for my younger kids future.
No way do I want the UK to be any part of a dictatorship. It would be dangerous ground.
And instead of going on about neutrality how about your thoughts on the EU becoming a dictatorship?
Strangely enough I constantly had a go at about everyone involved. I got accused several times of backing up May. But nobody could find where I did. I got accused of agreeing with Farage several times. But nobody could find anywhere that I did. I got accused of being a Tory because I know Labour could do much better than Corbyn. I mentioned no end of the lies from bith sides before the Brexit vote. But the leavers only remembered me mentioning the remain lies and only mentioned the leave lies constantly. The remoaners can't stand it when I point out where they have been seen to be wrong. The leavers agree most of the time when I say where the leave side were wrong because most of them agree.You've always been a leaver, respect for finally coming out with it.
If the EU were a dictatorship, I'm not sure we'd actually be able to leave.
What I do want now is a good deal.
Strangely enough I constantly had a go at about everyone involved. I got accused several times of backing up May. But nobody could find where I did. I got accused of agreeing with Farage several times. But nobody could find anywhere that I did. I got accused of being a Tory because I know Labour could do much better than Corbyn. I mentioned no end of the lies from bith sides before the Brexit vote. But the leavers only remembered me mentioning the remain lies and only mentioned the leave lies constantly. The remoaners can't stand it when I point out where they have been seen to be wrong. The leavers agree most of the time when I say where the leave side were wrong because most of them agree.
Then you have someone like yourself who is so biased and try to make out that I am. But since it has come out that they want one person steering the ship EU enterprise, someone to be able to go into countries and take over their finances and now they want the countries to agree to lose their vote or get kicked out of the EU I am 100% behind leave.
What I do want now is a good deal. And I can't understand anybody who doesn't.
It's certainly a million miles different now from how those who founded it envisioned it becoming, and my grandfather (left) was one of them.
But if we stay the normal vote on everything could be taken away. If you don't like it you would have to leave the EU.
We joined a customs union. It became the EU. Now they want it to become a dictatorship.
And you call it democracy
Nor should you shut...but stop going over & over the same old shit that hasn't won the arguments already
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They will be told what to do. Theu won't get a say on the matter. They will be ruled by Brussels. They said reforms would be made and if they didn't like not being able to veto it they would have to leave.Asking people to approve or disapprove new rules, including majority voting, is not a dictatorship. They didn't say majority voting.
Look it up in a dictionary.
Who is the 'we'?People like posting new shit.... like saying we are not leaving voluntarily or that the EU wants to become a dictatorship by introducing majority voting. I just like to call them out on it.
I don’t see why they should get away with it.
Who is the 'we'?
You said that they were not leaving voluntarily. Are you now saying that they are?The British people apparently.
They will be told what to do. Theu won't get a say on the matter. They will be ruled by Brussels. They said reforms would be made and if they didn't like not being able to veto it they would have to leave.
But as it is Germany who wants it you will be happy.
You said that they were not leaving voluntarily. Are you now saying that they are?
Isn't it amazing how you change your view depending on what is being said at the time. Like the two most voted for parties couldn't join with others to make a majority coalition because the AfD would be the strongest party. And the third strongest party in Germany are racist. But now it looks like they could get together it doesn't matter that the main opposition to the coalition government will be a racist party.
So where didd he say majority voting?Having a say means deciding if they accept majority voting. How does majority voting mean that one country rules?
You said that they couldn't join together as it would be a catastrophe if the AfD were the biggest party against the coalition. Now it isn't?No one wants the AfD to be the opposition party. But, seeing as the FDP walked out of the coalition talks, it may yet happen. How have I changed my opinion? Ask the FDP why they didn’t stop that.
The UK are leaving voluntarily. I have always said that. Someone else denied it, not me. Stop making things up.
So where didd he say majority voting?
Schulz said that the EU was going to reform. And if countries didn't like it they had to leave the EU. But Merkel is against it. Why would Merkel be against only needing a majority vote instead of everyone having to vote yes for everything?
So are you now saying that it was democracy and we have chosen voluntarily?
I look forward to the next time you contradict this.
You said that they couldn't join together as it would be a catastrophe if the AfD were the biggest party against the coalition. Now it isn't?
Saying that you also said that 1 in 8 Germans voting for a racist party was insignificant. Would you still say the same if they were the largest party in opposition?
So where didd he say majority voting?
Schulz said that the EU was going to reform. And if countries didn't like it they had to leave the EU. But Merkel is against it. Why would Merkel be against only needing a majority vote instead of everyone having to vote yes for everything?
https://www.economist.com/blogs/kaffeeklatsch/2017/12/use-value-0He wants to do away with veto and replace it with majority voting- which is what you want as you are against vetos from small countries.
Merkel‘s Party has other priorities. Immigration, families of refugees, integration. Söder from the CSU who will be the next leader of CSU is right wing and wants to crack down on non EU immigration.
A United States of Europe doesn’t appeal to these conservative parties. CDU reckons Merkel is quite capable of going alone in a minority government.
So you have never said that it isn't democracy? :banghead:I have never said anything else. I said imo it was a mistake and that we should never have made this decision based on an advisory referendum. The country is leaving despite it being only an advisory referendum on a voluntary basis.
The country is leaving despite it being only an advisory referendum on a voluntary basis.
https://www.economist.com/blogs/kaffeeklatsch/2017/12/use-value-0
Martin Schulz wants 'United States of Europe' within eight years
Would you like to change your version again? I can supply you as many links as you like to prove it isn't just the majority vote as you say but losing the right to vote against constitutional changes. France wants it to happen before 2024. He has said 2025. Merkel doesn't want it at all.
The only mandatory voting I have ever heard of came from dictatorships. Personally, I support the right to abstain.
So you have never said that it isn't democracy? :banghead:
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